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Celfious
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posted March 29, 2004 06:42 AM |
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Take your IQ test
Edit: Good news the world makes sence sometimes. Take test at IQtest.com
Take the one in HC too. Its not a survey.
i had a 122, but i want to take other variations.
The one i took you should take when its an HC popup, Look for it and awnser the 40 questions.
post links to more of the IQ tests
Heres a subscript or something
If all zips are zoops, and all zoops are zeeps, then all zeeps are zips.
Treu
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this_other_guy
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{0_o} heh...
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posted March 29, 2004 09:49 AM |
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just wondering...
The answer to the question... is it Unverified?
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Svarog
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posted March 29, 2004 12:13 PM |
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Edited By: Svarog on 29 Mar 2004
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No, it's false.
“If all zips are zoops, and all zoops are zeeps, then all zeeps are zips.”
“All zips are zoops” meaning if “they are zips” then “they are zoops”.
This is an if-then relation, implication, p=>q.
“All zoops are zeeps” meaning if “they are zoops” then “they are zeeps”.
Let this be a q=>r imlication.
“All zeeps are zips” meaning if “they are zeeps” then “they are zips”.
r=>p implication.
Where:
P: “They are zips.”
Q: “They are zoops.”
R: “They are zips.”
(p=>q) AND (q=>r) => (r=>p)
p q r p=>q - q=>r - r=>p - (p=>q)AND(q=>r) -- ALL
T T T - T --- T --- T --------- T ----------- T
T F T - F --- T --- T --------- F ----------- T
T T F - T --- F --- T --------- F ----------- T
F T T - T --- T --- F --------- T ----------- F
F T F - T --- F --- T --------- F ----------- T
F F T - T --- T --- F --------- T ----------- F
T F F - F --- T --- T --------- F ----------- T
F F F - T --- T --- T --------- T ----------- T
Therefore, this claim is not correct. If all values were TRUE, then it would be a valid claim, i.e. correct.
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Celfious
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posted March 29, 2004 12:32 PM |
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All zips are zoops, that dosnt mean all zoops are zips.
The awnser I think- is undetermined. I had a class on this logic, no big deal.
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Svarog
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posted March 29, 2004 08:20 PM |
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In logic statements you cannot have "undetermined", only true and false.
Therefore, if we cannot tell for each and every situation, and the statement specifically indicates that "all items" are something, and there's clear indication which shows it's not always the case, we say that the statement is false.
So, the answer is false. Otherwise, you are right about what you say, Cel, but the thing is it's either true or false.
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regnus_khan
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posted March 29, 2004 08:26 PM |
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114
Hmmm... I got different ones Celfious. But maybe that's only because I'm only 12 years old  . Though, I read that my IQ is the best for my age, since I'm only in 7th grade.
How much did the others get, eh?
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angelito
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posted March 29, 2004 08:32 PM |
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Have to agree with Svarog here.
The answer is: the conclusion is false!
Explanation: None of the first 2 terms tell something about the "zeeps", so the conclusion hase no adequate accuracy.
Therefore....conclusion is false...
BTW...i made this test now, but sometimes, i did not get the point of the question, coz of non native english speaking, so i had to guess in 2 or 3 questions....My score was 137...lets wait for the email and explanation...lol
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regnus_khan
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posted March 29, 2004 08:56 PM |
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Quote:
BTW...i made this test now, but sometimes, i did not get the point of the question, coz of non native english speaking, so i had to guess in 2 or 3 questions....
If you wanna know, I'm non native english speaker either, but I'm only 12 years old and that quiz totally messed my mind! I don't understand half of the words plus there are some questions that haven't been stated and explained in maths yet. Darn!
I'm sure I'd get a better one if I write this in my own lithuanian language.
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angelito
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posted March 29, 2004 09:05 PM |
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So therefore your score of 114 is very very good regnus_khan, have to pay a compliment here!
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Dyrvom
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posted March 29, 2004 10:27 PM |
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Edited By: Dyrvom on 29 Mar 2004
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Internet IQ tests are simply not comprehensive enough to give an accurate feel of someone's smartlyness. In real life IQ tests can take weeks and even then there are several different scales/schools of thought on what dictates intelligence and what dictates wisdom.
Edit: The solution is "Treu", it's called the Transitive Property (It's mid-level math so I'll understand if some of our younger viewers didn't get it).
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bjorn190
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posted March 29, 2004 11:50 PM |
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I got this:
Your IQ is: 156
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Shadowcaster
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posted March 30, 2004 01:01 AM |
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My IQ, according to this test, is 149.
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Athimus_Phaeni
Famous Hero
Final Fantasy Fan
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posted March 30, 2004 01:25 AM |
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148
But some questions are hard to understand if English is not your native language. What is "add-up to <a number>"?
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Dyrvom
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posted March 30, 2004 02:19 AM |
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Okay... I couldn't resist... I got a 152, but getting a decent score doesn't make me respect the system.
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Celfious
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posted March 30, 2004 02:42 AM |
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im not claiming awsomeness.. i juse went to school for this )semester/1 classs)
If all zips are zoops, and all zoops are zeeps, then all zeeps are zips.
AAA-4.. either false or undetermined. it is an invalid sylogism.
all Zeeps being anything is not possible to tell just by knowing what all zips and zoops are. it is undetermined.
All zoops are zeeps, but you dont know what all zeepz are.
Edit/ or true, undetermined logicly.
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Dyrvom
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posted March 30, 2004 03:14 AM |
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Name one real world situation in which the Transitive Property does not apply, and I'll admit defeat.
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Svarog
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posted March 30, 2004 03:29 AM |
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This is not the Transitive Property. that would be:
(p=>q and q=>r) => (p=>r)
this example has p and r switched in the last expression.
cel, zip your mouth already.
I told you, your logic's perfect, but this kind of situation's not called "undetermined", it's "false".
btw, my score was 155. so u all gotta listen to me when i'm telling ya it's false. he, he.. 
One serious remark now: I don't think this test really has any validity. I don't beleive in IQ tests, esp when they involve fast-answering (man, i suck at that). This is just a commercial site that offers some fun, that's it.
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Dyrvom
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posted March 30, 2004 03:49 AM |
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It absolutely is an embodiment of the Transitive Property, but I agree wholeheartedly (as I stated before taking the test) that it can't be anywhere near accurate.
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Athimus_Phaeni
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posted March 30, 2004 04:46 AM |
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Quote:
This is not the Transitive Property. that would be:
(p=>q and q=>r) => (p=>r)
this example has p and r switched in the last expression.
The logic properties, as the transitive means that, if you have something, you CAN affirm that you have the other thing too(hard to understand, no?).
For example:
If all zips are zoops, and all zoops are zeeps, then all zeeps are zips. So:
If you got zips, you got zoops.
If you got zoops, you got zeeps.
With the transitive property, you can affirm that:
If you got zips, you got zeeps.
But that is not what the statement says! So, you can't affirm that the statement is true. But you can't say that it is false, either.
In logic, you only can affirm that something is false, if you have a contradition. But you don't have a contradition in there. Properties like the transitive, Modus Ponens, Modus Tollens are relations that implies something from previous propositions, not that guarantees equivalence between two propositions.
The relation in the statement isn't always true, but it can be true. It is a case that isn't just in the logic problems, but involves sets(don't know how you call it, maybe groups or collections) too.
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This is an if-then relation, implication, p=>q.
That is not an if-then relation, it is a inference. An if-then relation is p->q. And the statement is a imply, so you only consider in the table the case that the first sentence( (p->q)^(q->r) ) is true.
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Celfious
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posted March 30, 2004 10:42 AM |
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