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Klauts
Klauts


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posted October 05, 2002 10:31 PM

Poll Question:
Champion versus Dark Champion

Which of this 2 rival creaturs do you think is best.
I preffer the dark version because
1.I like death
2.Regeneration at 200 hp
3.First strike and charge(the champions bonuses)
But champion can compete as it's growth its very good.

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Champion
Dark Champion
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Lich_King
Lich_King


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Supreme Hero
posted October 06, 2002 12:27 AM

I must dissapoint you...

But Dark Champion has no first strike, he has terror instead
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Klauts
Klauts


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posted October 06, 2002 01:51 PM

Quote:
I must dissapoint you...

But Dark Champion has no first strike, he has terror instead


Oops i ment terror.
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Wub
Wub


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Famous Hero
posted October 06, 2002 05:19 PM

In my creature analysis thread I already made this very comparison. Here it is:

Champions: First strike.
Dark Champions: 2,4%-104,8% stronger, terror (3x), undead, regeneration, +50% movement.

Conclusion: a weekly growth of Dark Champions is almost always better than a weekly growth of Champions.

Problems: I don't know how expensive a Dark Champion is. If it is a overprized, it may change the usefulness of the unit.

It also seems that Dark Champions can't be recruited in towns. This may make it hard to actually get two of them weekly. This in contrast with champions, which accumulate in towns too.
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Lich_King
Lich_King


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Supreme Hero
posted October 06, 2002 06:13 PM

Dark Champiom cost is 4000 gold + 4 ore. (nooooooooo, Not ore again I hate that resourse !!!!)
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Medusa
Medusa


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Yeah, right
posted October 06, 2002 07:40 PM

4 ore?

4 ore?! madness!!!!
oh, back to the point. i choose dark champions coz i hate life.
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Aculias
Aculias


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Undefeatable Hero
Pretty Boy Angel Sacraficer
posted October 06, 2002 10:40 PM

I choose Champions because I love life
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Medusa
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Yeah, right
posted October 07, 2002 03:33 PM

I'm a tolerantic person
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japjer
japjer


Adventuring Hero
posted October 07, 2002 04:16 PM

champions

i used to hate them, but they're perfect in combination with your monks. they're nice in sieges, your shooters weaken the troops and the champions finish the job without taking any damage.
im even beginning to prefer them over angels!
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Medusa
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Yeah, right
posted October 07, 2002 04:36 PM

ummm angels are better for me anyway ressurection is good
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StrongholdKeeper


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IRC fan
posted October 07, 2002 06:20 PM

Champions have only 150 hitpoints and are very bad. Dark champions will defeat champions in no time.
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Aculias
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Pretty Boy Angel Sacraficer
posted October 08, 2002 04:58 AM

Angels can only ressurect once & they are not as big as in heroes 3 they are munchable.
I think a Powerhouse can be the most awesome army with Crusaders & Champions running around & some Squires lol.
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Medusa
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Yeah, right
posted October 08, 2002 05:50 PM

anyway, i agree with strongholdkeeper- dark champions will win in no time
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Klauts
Klauts


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posted October 08, 2002 08:59 PM

Well of course they will win cause of their regeneration and hitpoints
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Aculias
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Undefeatable Hero
Pretty Boy Angel Sacraficer
posted October 09, 2002 12:21 AM

Of course Champions will win you get so many & with a no retaliation you are bound to kill before the regeneration I still love life
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Wub
Wub


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Famous Hero
posted October 09, 2002 01:11 AM
Edited By: Wub on 8 Oct 2002

Quote:

Of course Champions will win you get so many & with a no retaliation you are bound to kill before the regeneration I still love life  



You think that 4 champions beat 2 dark champions!? 4 Champions on average do 75 damage against their dark counterparts...so it seems to me that they will have to charge from a horribly large distance to cancel out the regeneration. Not to mention the fact that dark champions have the charge ability too, can cast terror 3 times (or 6 times when they are split up) and can attack from a larger distance! One dark champion might even be enough to deal with those 'champions'!

Edit: and thanks to lich_king I now even know that 2 dark champions are cheaper than 4 champions too.
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Aculias
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Pretty Boy Angel Sacraficer
posted October 09, 2002 01:15 AM

Well I not played it yet so I have an excuse & ok ok I go down now I hate life & will follow thw way of the necronamican how ever you say it & ride the dark horse & dispose of those foolish Champions who will soon know the way of the dark side of the force
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Wub
Wub


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Famous Hero
posted October 09, 2002 11:54 PM

OK And in case I might be wrong, I'll hide behind the same excuse too . By the way, would indeed be interesting to know if you can transform Champions to Dark Champions in the undead transformer. But I guess you can't..
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Aculias
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Undefeatable Hero
Pretty Boy Angel Sacraficer
posted October 10, 2002 02:31 AM

cant in heroes 3 too lol
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terje_the_mad_wizard


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Disciple of Herodotus
posted March 11, 2003 02:42 PM

Quote:
Well of course they will win cause of their regeneration and hitpoints


Yes, coz the Champs would have to take out 200hp per turn, if it was to take out even one Dark Champ... So, in a one on one fight, the Dark One would win... (unless fighting the Dragon Reborn, of course, hehe...)
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