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Heroes Community > Library of Enlightenment > Thread: the best level 4 spell (it's clone)
Thread: the best level 4 spell (it's clone)
RATxFxixNxkx
RATxFxixNxkx

Tavern Dweller
posted October 11, 2004 03:49 AM

the best level 4 spell (it's clone)

imo if you don't think it's clone you obviously don't know the game. arrogance laid, any retorts?---->

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Dingo
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posted October 11, 2004 03:53 AM

Ever heard of Beserk or Town Portal?

Here is the Original Thread.

Now after you read this: go edit post, then delete thread, then go post in the original thread.
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RATxFxixNxKx
RATxFxixNxKx

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posted October 11, 2004 03:58 AM

hey dingo, i think i hear yrself eating yr own baby......

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Dingo
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posted October 11, 2004 04:04 AM

Alright.
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posted October 11, 2004 04:17 AM

...............................................clone's way better than beserk: beserk is hailed as great cuz it also wastes a creature's turn. well so does clone, unless they want it to attack again. beserk can do some amazing things like entangle/blind/age a creature by that, but clone basically gives any creature you want the crusader/raider ability. portal is uncomparable

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posted October 11, 2004 04:22 AM

By Beserk, I meant Expert Beserk.
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RedSoxFan3
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posted October 11, 2004 04:41 AM

Town Portal is the best spell. And Expert Beserk will effect have your opponents army. Trust me no one will ever castle sit if you have expert beserk.
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gorman
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posted October 11, 2004 04:45 AM

Nah, w/expert beserk they'll probably try to run away ASAP Don't get any funny ideas next time I play HoMM3 w/ya RSF. If you go saying you have expert fire magic and beserk in your spell book I'll never play again
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posted October 11, 2004 04:49 AM

However very few people choose fire magic, because you almost always get slow or haste and seldom get fire. And when you can get town portal, people often don't choose fire magic.
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posted October 21, 2004 04:53 PM

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However very few people choose fire magic, because you almost always get slow or haste and seldom get fire. And when you can get town portal, people often don't choose fire magic.


I have to admit I'm guilty of that!!!  I don't tend to use Fire much...  But from all the tips I'm seeing, I think I'm going to have to test it out!!!  I usually have sussex with just Air and Earth!!
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posted October 25, 2004 03:35 PM

I think the best 4th level spell is resurrection.

To be able to use townportal at itīs best, u must have at least advanced earthmagic.....without, tp is similar to logistics..

Berzerk is also only cool on expert mode....firemagic is rarely used though....and berzerk can be prevented with a small artifact (pendant of dispassion)...not to mention recanters cloak or red orb.

To have the full strength of clone, watermagic is necessary. Coz u donīt want to clone your 82 pikemen, but your AAīs..
And a bigger spell like frostring, inferno, meteor, chainlightning and so on, hits the original unit AND the clone is gone also...

Meteorshower and Chainlightning are also cool spells, but chainlightning could be prevented easily with pendant of negativity and meteorshower normaly works only one time in the fight, coz afterwards the opponent knows it and rearranges his troops.

I donīt want to talk about sorrow, slayer, inferno, coz i think they are rarely used in the game...

Prayer is a spell i like very much. Attack, defense and speed +4 can be a match winner. Even when the opponent casts mass slow, your units only lose 1 point of speed (in comparison to their normal speed, to the opposite of having casted mass haste, where mass slow "dispels" the haste AND slows all units down as well), but still keep their +4 attack and defense skill!!
But expert water is needed to have the whole effect...

Resurrection can be very disappointing for the opponent, when he starts smiling coz of having killed nearly all of your Archangels, but then he can watch how u resurrect them ALL and they resurrect another killed stack as well.....and coz of an endfight being the last action of a game normaly, u donīt need earthmagic, coz u wonīt need the troops after the fight again..


So i go for Resurrection as No.1 and Prayer as No.2  
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Conan
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posted October 25, 2004 07:03 PM

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To be able to use townportal at itīs best, u must have at least advanced earthmagic.....without, tp is similar to logistics..
Resurrection can be very disappointing for the opponent, when he starts smiling coz of having killed nearly all of your Archangels, but then he can watch how u resurrect them ALL and they resurrect another killed stack as well.....and coz of an endfight being the last action of a game normaly, u donīt need earthmagic, coz u wonīt need the troops after the fight again..
So i go for Resurrection as No.1 and Prayer as No.2  


To be able to use resurrectionat it's best, as u would say, you must have at least advanced earthmagic. And usually, form what I've read from your posts, you like playing might heroes, so the SP won't be too high. How will you resurrect them ALL?
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angelito
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posted October 25, 2004 07:14 PM

When u read my post exactly, then u will find a line where it says, that resurrection in ENDFIGHT is important and powerfull....and the endfight is normaly the last battle in a game, so why should i need all the troops after the fight?..

And about the might hero...sure i prefer them...like 95% of all online players do.....but even might heroes get some arties during the game which raise there knowledge and their spellpower..
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kwahraps
kwahraps


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posted October 25, 2004 07:35 PM

I would say the answer is situational.

If you are fortunate to get the necklack of swiftness, or the cape of velocity, or hire Sir Mullich, then expert prayer is an endgame winner.  The boost in stats and speed can be overwhelming, especially when every unit can get across the board (even without tactics).  Granted, you have to get expert water magic, but for your entire army to move while your opponent gets maybe 1 or 2 moves, ressurection will not be needed.

However, resurrection is a better option than clone, as you get to preserve hit points.  Clone is a great option for Titans and Archangels, but what happens when you get whittled down . . . or lose the speed initiative?

Good point about not needing the appropriate spell school, although I'm pretty sure that earth is popular for most people.
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