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Heroes Community > Library of Enlightenment > Thread: HELP, strats!
Thread: HELP, strats!
solo
solo


Hired Hero
posted December 17, 2004 09:52 AM

HELP, strats!

As soon as i started playing online, i've noticed that i am absolutely incapable doing anything,against rampart
Usually this dont even go far, in the 2-4 week it is over for me, he just comes and humiliates me with his grand elves, 1-3 behemtohs gets slaughtered very quickly ( i play with stronghold )wtf am i supposed to do? maybe you guys know some tips and tricks how to be more successfull against rampart?

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LordLazy
LordLazy


Promising
Famous Hero
Wood cleaner
posted December 17, 2004 08:27 PM

hehe, I tell you, if you have probs with rampart, you will be in deep whateva when you face a nice castle opponent hehe, well the main problem which I can see from te suff youve posted up there is that you only have 1-3 behemmies week2-4 maybe you should post your standard strats, and I might help you also, there are lots of nice threads around with small things that might help you improve, like franks strategy thread in toh forum

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greek_god_superman


Famous Hero
Bringer Of Light
posted December 18, 2004 08:25 AM

If elves are your only problem, get rid off them.. Your enemy will have his turn first, cause of dragons and may cast his spell so you can blind the elves without fear of dispel in the first round. Or finish them with your thunderbirds and use your spell points on something better. Kill the drags with your wolf raiders after they (dragons) have wasted their retaliation on something like goblins or such.
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Lord_Woock
Lord_Woock


Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Daddy Cool with a $90 smile
posted December 18, 2004 09:34 AM

Foo! Don't take retal with goblins! Use ogres instead! Not only will you lose less, but also they'll pack more of a punch on the dragons
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LordLazy
LordLazy


Promising
Famous Hero
Wood cleaner
posted December 18, 2004 01:03 PM

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If elves are your only problem, get rid off them.. Your enemy will have his turn first, cause of dragons and may cast his spell so you can blind the elves without fear of dispel in the first round. Or finish them with your thunderbirds and use your spell points on something better. Kill the drags with your wolf raiders after they (dragons) have wasted their retaliation on something like goblins or such.


This post is crap sorry What do you think he will cast first round so you can blind? magic arrow? He will just outwait you

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solo
solo


Hired Hero
posted December 18, 2004 03:51 PM

no the problem is erlier, he doesnt even have dragons, the player calls it "rampart rush", he just comes with overwhelming number of elves (35-40) blesses them, and then i get f***ed, he blocks them with centaurs and dwarves, while i am busy killing centaurs and dwarves he just slaughters half of my army

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angelito
angelito

Hero of Order
proud father of a princess
posted December 18, 2004 04:03 PM

If u play stronghold, u should have thunderbirds and behemots in first week. And normaly a stronghold hero gets tactics very often. Next u should try to get airmagic to expert and haste-spell.....problem solved..
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solo
solo


Hired Hero
posted December 18, 2004 04:11 PM

OK i'll try that so you say that i MUST take air magic over, earth? i ALWAYS took earth magic be4 anything, imho earth is the most valuable magic

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Lord_Woock
Lord_Woock


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Undefeatable Hero
Daddy Cool with a $90 smile
posted December 18, 2004 04:48 PM

Air magic = expert haste = dead elves
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posted December 18, 2004 08:43 PM

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Rhyanna
Rhyanna


Adventuring Hero
Queen of the Harpies!
posted December 18, 2004 09:32 PM

As other people have said, if elves are your problem...

There are many things you can do to counter elves. Fly the thunderbirds over to them, pound on them with orcs, haste units so they can get over to them, and incase you get it, sometimes forgetfulness or whatever its called can be a useful spell.

Grand elves are only a third level unit, and a shooter at that, so while they do have two shots, they can't take a lot of damage. If they always win due to this strat though, there may be another way to go. Do your best to get to him BEFORE he's prepared.

If he has a strategy that works every time, and you haven't changed yours enough to win...

Or if worst comes to worst, try another town type. Our fave and the one we're best at aren't always the same.

I'll be able to give better advice come monday, but for now... At the very least, I won't be yelled at for bad advice.

I hope.

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Xarfax111
Xarfax111


Bad-mannered
Supreme Hero
The last hero standing
posted December 19, 2004 05:52 PM

Best thing is to get a level 10 Astral with 20 spellpower shoot him down with his own dammed Grandelves.

at least it is fun

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tigris
tigris


Supreme Hero
Supreme Noobolator
posted December 21, 2004 09:18 AM

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If u play stronghold, u should have thunderbirds and behemots in first week. And normaly a stronghold hero gets tactics very often. Next u should try to get airmagic to expert and haste-spell.....problem solved..

Speaking of tactics from what this guy said the only way that his opponent could protect his G.elves is having tactics.(he only come with centaurs,dwarves and elves)So normally the birds will move first(hasted they reach the elves no problem)that can only mean one thing:the opponent has tactics.Having tactics too won't be a bad choice cos then you can stop him from arranging his troops to protect the elves before the battle.The you can haste the birds to melee block the elves, then follow with behemots,raiders etc.Another way is to have a meteor shower specialist doing the fight.A level 5 exp earth deemer with 6 spell power will surely do about 25-30 elves in one round, not to count the guards the other guy so carefully choosed to put near them to protect.
So in two rounds you should be able to get rid of him this way.And the best thing is that you can enter this fight with very little army(mostly fodders+all your ogres to get rid of centaurs and dwarves if the other guy is wise enough to place them away so that the shower won't affect more than 1 unit)
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csarmi
csarmi


Supreme Hero
gets back
posted December 21, 2004 09:30 AM

Just destroy those elves with magics, maybe with sacrificing some scouts. Then destroy him

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