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Heroes Community > Library of Enlightenment > Thread: First day town hall?
Thread: First day town hall? [ This thread is 11 pages long: (1) 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 ]
Pollo2002
Pollo2002


Known Hero
posted March 29, 2003 01:00 AM

First day town hall?

I see most people build town hall first day....but i build it most of the time in 2nd or 3rd day....i play 160% difficutly, and it depends on the map i know...but i never see 2nd daqy town hall...why?

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LordLazy
LordLazy


Promising
Famous Hero
Wood cleaner
posted March 29, 2003 01:10 AM

U mind tellin' who these "most people" is?
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Kuma
Kuma


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posted March 29, 2003 02:05 AM

I would say 'most people' I play, build Town hall day 8 wif the gold they got from crypt or Dwarftrez.

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Pollo2002
Pollo2002


Known Hero
posted March 29, 2003 02:19 AM

Again

Maybe on Showdown...................and 130% or lower difficulty

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EvilLoynis
EvilLoynis


Famous Hero
The Dark Shadow
posted March 29, 2003 07:10 AM

  I usually build mage guild day 1.  That way my heroes can start scouting all over and I can trade all the little spells you get from shrines.
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Ironfist
Ironfist


Hired Hero
posted March 30, 2003 04:50 AM

If you are playing tower, definitely upgrade gremlins.
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bjorn190
bjorn190


Responsible
Supreme Hero
Jebus maker
posted March 30, 2003 05:56 AM

Basic build for the cheap:

Day 1:  Shooter dwell for initial fight hero (use might)
Day 2:  Town hall
Day 3-7: Creatures or city hall

Week 2: City hall or creatures, level 7 or capitol

Week 3: Level 7 or capitol

Week 4: If game is still on, buy all your creatures and do a tope.

Most games on fixed or on too simple randoms end week 3. Most games on real randoms end week 4-7

gl and hf

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Hexa
Hexa


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Legendary Hero
posted March 30, 2003 06:26 AM

For fixed maps:
* week 1: build level 1-7 with citadel or castle
* week 2: castle (if u didn;t get it yet) with capitol (depending on map) or buy all and upgrade level 7 creeps for early rush

Randon maps:
* depending on towns ...
Not gonna type all them diff strategies on building

Just look afround a bit in teh Librabry dude there have been many threads like this before!@

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Warlock
Warlock

Tavern Dweller
posted April 22, 2003 10:28 AM

The strategy depands on the size. I play only Xl and the very first thing i do is buying another hero. If map is a reach one, get enough gold to build town hall the same day.
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Xarfax111
Xarfax111


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The last hero standing
posted April 22, 2003 02:59 PM

...if u are talking about a random 160% online game, i can say that MOST PEOPLE try to avoid building it first week. Only when short on wood or ore they build it. But who am I, and as far as i know Kuma sucks too.

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zilonite
zilonite


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posted April 22, 2003 03:51 PM

Quote:
But who am I, and as far as i know Kuma sucks too

Xarfax1


pretty shy for a baron, ain't he?  

as for town hall - when i was young elephant, my week 1 build up was something like Mage G --> town hall --> city hall --> creatures...

And now, when getting older, I can say that on 90% maps such build up SUXXXXX....

[fire fountain of water into the air]

Yet on 160% diff and harder map town hall could come in handy somewhere about day 2 or 3.
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Kuma
Kuma


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posted April 23, 2003 06:18 AM

Quote:
But who am I, and as far as i know Kuma sucks too.




"as far as I know"  Yeah, how far do you know, Faxee?

But, to get back to the topic: trust me (and xar and Zilo) on this one: even on 160% a good player will always try to buy as much troops that he can use to get back the gold it has cost him to buy town- and Cityhall week 2.

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PhoebeDuViels
PhoebeDuViels


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Que?
posted April 23, 2003 11:59 PM

day 1: Town hall
day 2: mage guild
day 3: citadel
day 4: market place
day 5: blacksmith
day 6: city hall
day 7: castle

day 1 week 1: capitol

then I starting to build creature dwelling and mage guild 2... Just make sure you have enough money and you can get creatures in maximum quantity...
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Celfious
Celfious


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Legendary Hero
NPC
posted April 24, 2003 02:47 AM

Learn how to feel out the map well from the beggining.

*~ Creatures cost gold-
*~ The more creatures you have, the quicker the battle, the less casualty-
*~ creature dwellings cost gold too-
*~ Combination of more creatures in the middle of week 2, will go further than bits and pieces of the army the prior week.
*~ Week 2 might be to late-depending on what is beyond the level 2/3 stack which guards area 2+ Learn to feel out the map!


So here it is- If you can get constant stuff w/out having to burn up army strength (gold) then dont waste precious time on units. Utilize it developing town strength and reserves THEN have an army as one romping zone through zone as a secondary hero brings in weekly reserves.

If you cant, and just waiting around on day one is no good, then burn the gold to get a tad further while you do the town development later. In the week 2 you'll be in worse shape (unless map is rewarding enough to make up for the pain you inflicted upon yourself) still not even half way through town development.

Now, another thing with early development is army strength. Not burning the level 3 now, will make it more useful with more numbers and a level 4+ to back it up.

Another thing against early development is.. You might come to lack of resource. This is usualy your fault aswell  because you didn't feel out the map. Not only is your gold now gone becuase you kept sqwandering away at dwellings, but you can't afford the creatures you luckily did accumilate. Now your suckin'! Now you have to reevaluate your skills =P

If you ever have more questions, or want me to go into the grand mastery and beyond (pertaining to Homm skill) feel free to pop me an IM. I'm not as prideful as this joke makes me look =) but im **** good

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zordrac
zordrac


Adventuring Hero
posted April 29, 2003 03:53 AM

On HOMM2, you always bought well on day 7 of week 1, and as many dwellings as you could before then. But with HOMM3 the situation is trickier.

You obviously still want to have as many creature centres as early as you can if money is coming in regularly. So buying a town hall on week 1 probably isn't a good idea because it is costing you a day of building a creature stack. You can get money from other means (gold mine, treasure chests, or the different caches lying around) to boost up your income early in the game. However, once you have run out of things to build easily, and are waiting for the level 7 dwelling, then you buy your town hall. Of course, if you are playing Stronghold or Fortress, you can get your level 7 very quickly, so it can be played quite differently. And of course Dungeon you can get up to level 6 quickly as well.

Town Hall is 2500 for 1000 per day. So it would take you 3 days to get your money back. 3 days where you haven't had the creature stack that you could have bought instead of the town hall. 3 days where you could have had the next creature stack after that. And 3 days where those creatures could have got you much more money than you are getting now. Without creatures, it is very hard for you to get anywhere, particularly early on.

Probably towards the end of week 2 you would usually buy a town hall, but it really depends on the map.

HOMM2 tactics on the other hand are vastly different, and the money generators come into play earlier on. But I assume that you are talking HOMM3 here.
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Famous Hero
posted May 05, 2003 10:28 AM

Ok, Then Who says that building townhall 2nd day is a stupid thing? And why, becouse my oppinion is deffinetellly opposite.

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Lord_Woock
Lord_Woock


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posted May 05, 2003 12:27 PM

Go play against Kuma and you shall see .
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Kuma
Kuma


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posted May 06, 2003 04:40 AM

'You got to spend money to make money'

That's all there's to it.
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Zbyhoo
Zbyhoo


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Newbie to MP, but learning ;-)
posted May 06, 2003 05:15 AM

;-)

Very.. deep

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GrunanCross
GrunanCross


Famous Hero
King of the Underdark
posted May 06, 2003 05:24 AM

Day 1: Town Hall 2500g
Day 2: Harpy Loft 1000g
Day 3: Pillar of eyes 1000g + 1wogcsm
Day 4: Chapel of Stilled Voices 2000 g + 5w + 10o
Day 5a: Manticore Lair 5000g + 5w + 5o + 5m + 5s
Day 6a: Labyrinth 4000g + 10o + 10g  
Day 5b: Upg. Harpy Loft 1000g + 2c + 2s
Day 6b: Upg. Pillar 1000g + 1wogcsm
Day 7: Citadel 2500g +  


thats my thing for the dungeon...
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