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Celfious
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posted October 23, 2003 08:55 PM |
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New words
Way back when.. The greatest writers are usualy known for making new words. Because there was alot of things men didnt make words for yet.. So here is a place to show 2 things
1: The spelling of your word that you lable the term with
2: The term that has no word
I'll jump out to a big one now.
The gender based 1, the missing prefix
When reading and refering to any human in 3rd person, unless its specificly a women, they use the word "man"
So simply, make a word spelled min that means human in that 3rd person thing. Policemin, clergymin, ect..
Someone else made this word, she's awsome but not here.
"Intralusion" (I'm not gonna tell you the meaning) Just combine the prefixes and their past meanings to us
Heres 1 more for now, I'm more interested to see yours ppl
(members of the religion, lets just say I'm claiming your word cuz this terminology fits better)
Unitarians Radicle group. Simply want to unite everyone in the smallest ways possible
Theres been empires and stuff, but never unitarians. Imagine if rome were unitarians
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posted October 23, 2003 09:35 PM |
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your a insanagoof (insane goof)
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sevenseasjim
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posted October 23, 2003 09:45 PM |
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im sorry but min does not fall under a catagory with a possibility of creative additions.
people can and do create new words all the time, and languages change constantly, but not in the realm of pronouns.
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Lord_Woock
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posted October 23, 2003 09:55 PM |
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Terry Pratchett is great at making up words. In the Discworld books, he says that the opposite of being drunk is not being sober - it is merely the absence of drunkness. The true opposite of "drunk" is "knurd" a feeling so strange that as soon as you feel it, you really want some beer or other form of alcohol just to get rid of the feeling.
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Celfious
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posted October 23, 2003 10:07 PM |
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im sorry but min does not fall under a catagory with a possibility of creative additions.
people can and do create new words all the time, and languages change constantly, but not in the realm of pronouns.
New words are made when inovative thinkers make new things. New words are made, when new organizations of min come together. If you dont like the spelling mabey a female will take recognition. (spell it sen if you want, its a mix you have your s)
You have proved yourself closed minded. The language can not only change, but be completely changed made out of suffix and prefixes, and nouns, and words like "the, and, like is" But this is merely possible additions to the language
@ woock
Wow, almost like a hunger to satisfy. I wish I could read that stuff
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Lord_Woock
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posted October 23, 2003 10:15 PM |
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You should try it. I have 18 Discworld books at home and hopefully my collection will grow. I can lend one to yeh if you want 
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Celfious
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posted October 24, 2003 05:14 AM |
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(woock ill keep that in mind or mabey by the time i get time ill see one )
I'll do a final twist thing unless someone else starts talking.
1 with big ideas, intending to harm others
1 with big ideas intending to help others
This particular scientist is usualy rainious
But that whacko hes Cynious
It gives another way to say
"someone is [bearing of creditable ideas usualy meant to hurt ppl]"
words in 1 word is fickle so you have a [challenging opportunity you can pass up or not.]
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Khaelo
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posted October 24, 2003 06:31 AM |
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Edited By: Khaelo on 24 Oct 2003
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SevenSeasJim is not being close-minded, Celfious. He's being practical, and I happen to agree with him. "Min" doesn't have a good chance of survival -- we're already got "human" and "person" to act as genderless words for, well, a person.  He's also correct insofar as pronouns. Coined nouns and verbs catch on easily when they're needed, such as for a new invention. However, fundamental things like pronouns (and articles, and prepositions, and so on) are far more resistant to change.
The most recent attempt I've seen at genderless pronouns has been "hir, em" which some people over on Beliefnet try to use on a regular basis. To be honest, it's annoying. I just use "they" in a singular sense to mean a person of indeterminate gender. It drives English teachers up the wall, but everyone else understands exactly what I mean. "They" and "them" are already in the language, and people understand them. Those are two major advantages over your proposed new pronoun.
If English is in need of any new pronouns, they should be in the realm of "you." Online, I've seen a lot of people having to clarify "you, So-and-So" from "you (general)" A simple singular/plural distinction would probably suffice, such as taking "y'all" (yall?) or "youse" as universal versions of plural "you" rather than regional dialect.
[Edit: Ai! If I'm going to write a post about fixing English, I should probably demonstrate proficiency with current English first, huh? ]
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Celfious
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posted October 24, 2003 06:50 AM |
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Man in english, can refer to all humans
and his can refer to the thinking of a single person of either gender
while he can refer to a male, or a random human
chairman, policeman, buisnessman, salesman, ect..
I know what you mean, at the same time if you were to make a complete new language it would be possible to do any prefix, sufix coines (whatever). Making alterations to one thats about 40% worldwide is tasky. Over generations it would be first nature.
the whole "min" thing is simple tho, only reason i mentioned it.
I wish the makers of this language thought about this when it was still newish
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Khaelo
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posted October 24, 2003 07:20 AM |
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Edited By: Khaelo on 24 Oct 2003
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Man in english, can refer to all humans
and his can refer to the thinking of a single person of either gender
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while he can refer to a male, or a random human
chairman, policeman, buisnessman, salesman, ect..
"Chairperson/chairman/chairwoman," but most commonly just plain "chair." "Police officer." I don't hear "businessman" used all that often anymore; people refer to the particular occupation. "Salesperson," "sales associate." "Firefighter." The gender bias in the words you listed is fading out already.
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I know what you mean, at the same time if you were to make a complete new language it would be possible to do any prefix, sufix coines (whatever). Making alterations to one thats about 40% worldwide is tasky. Over generations it would be first nature
the whole "min" thing is simple tho, only reason i mentioned it
I wish the makers of this language thought about this when it was still newish
How much background do you have in language evolution? Mine is just in studying Latin and as a hobby, but even from that I can tell that you're clueless. Linguistics just don't work the way you're assuming. Languages develop in communities, from other languages, over time. There were no "makers" sitting around coming up with these things. The culture where English developed was sexist. Their language assumed male supremacy. Our culture is more eglatarian, and our language is evolving accordingly.
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Celfious
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posted October 25, 2003 01:18 AM |
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bash bash bash...
Look "Min" is simple proposition.
If you redid a language, you could use frigging
thray-female
ray- Male
thay- either
ect..
Theres a language that has no 3rd person like he, or she. (they of course, have the general meaning of "it" thats all they have for 3rd person.
Inferior!
This isnt a place to argue, sure make your points, but I'm merely sincerely interested in developing a list of sentances for combined meaning in 1 word. And theres alot of things possible. but the holes are hard to find. You dont wanna find a hole, sure go ahead and not. But for here fourth consider "min" (the # person style, compliment to the meaningful words- human, person ect) in my mind only. which is fine
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