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Sir_Stiven
Sir_Stiven


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posted November 11, 2003 12:58 PM

Quote:
Not knowing somebody should never be used as an excuse to say hurtful things, then play innocent by saying "you can't pass judgement on me you don't know me" when the people about whom you say them (or somebody else) stands up to the hurtful comment.


It hasnt struck you that you only feel this way because insults is what you expect too see from me all the time?

You even took my apologies as insults, there is not much i can do then is it?

Fact is while you claim me to be the one not responsible here i am the one of us who has taken responsibility for my behalf (the RL pic misunderstanding) and i have apologized for it. Then how you deal with that is up to you.

Take in mind though that ive problably made about 3000 posts here and ive recieved a penalty on one (which still makes no sense IMO, was more like given to me because of "other side" got penalties). But yet that makes it 1/3000... not bad for someone who´s posts all to be of an insulting nature is it?

Fact is what i write do just matter do a certain extent, then its up to the readers of the post how its interpeted. I agree with that i can choose my words better sometimes, but then it doesnt really matter becaise if its just an insult you wanna see me write then an insult is what you will see... no matter if its even meant as an apology.

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Hexa
Hexa


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posted November 11, 2003 01:48 PM

hmm well if we could penalize for things said between the lines that rate of -qp's of yours would be way higher so don't even go there!@

U made it an art to balance on the edges of COC.
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Sir_Stiven
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posted November 11, 2003 02:28 PM

ok, feel free to tell me hexa what you think im saying "between the lines" in this thread then.

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Hexa
Hexa


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posted November 11, 2003 03:00 PM

Was refering to past events. I wouldn't know what u said in the past few years upto this thread.

I made it a habit to ignore all your posts!@
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madmartigan
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posted November 11, 2003 03:09 PM
Edited By: madmartigan on 11 Nov 2003

crap

Quote:
hmm well if we could penalize for things said between the lines that rate of -qp's of yours would be way higher so don't even go there!@

U made it an art to balance on the edges of COC.


with some edit:
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hmm well if we could apply bonus for things said between the lines that rate of +qp's of yours would be way higher so don't even go there!@

U made it an art to balance on the edges of COC.
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Doesn't it sound funny?

(edit2 note: wow, you don't get floodprotect if you edit an already edited post)
edit3: you really don't
edit4: so what?
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Peacemaker
Peacemaker


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Peacemaker = double entendre
posted November 11, 2003 09:35 PM
Edited By: Peacemaker on 11 Nov 2003

(Seriously contemplates analyzing a few of the between-the-lines implications of some of the posts in question...)

(Tries desperately to decide if this will worsen the situation at hand, or justify it once and for all...)

(Recalls numerous warnings from people on the side that this is exactly the kind of stuff that he thrives on and will probably find some additional ingenious ways to portray himself as innocent...)

Okay, maybe, but I'll give it till the weekend to decide what to do....
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Delfontes
Delfontes


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posted November 11, 2003 10:33 PM

I usually wouldn't post on a topic like this, but I've lost 10 minutes of my life I'll never get back.

So I'll settle for wasting 15 seconds of everyone else, thus equalizing my inconvenience.  I've had a high post count on a few boards, (though not this one) and seen this before, so take the following however you wish.

I must ask some questions here...

What will this thread accomplish?

Will someone who's name implies serenity become more true to the name by continuing a fight?

Will someone who's elected to have a title on their name bestowed for acting chivalrous have proven deserving of it?

Or will it simply continue to go back and forth like some sick ping-pong match of words?


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Hexa
Hexa


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posted November 11, 2003 10:45 PM

The last option ofcourse ,,, since we are all bored and have nothing better to do!@
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Sir_Stiven
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posted November 11, 2003 11:02 PM
Edited By: Sir_Stiven on 11 Nov 2003

Quote:
(Recalls numerous warnings from people on the side that this is exactly the kind of stuff that he thrives on and will probably find some additional ingenious ways to portray himself as innocent...)


yeah yeah i sooo want you to comment this...thats why i adressed the question to hexa and have been trying to end this conversation more or less since my first post.

Now as stated i have apologised for my part in this since it seemed my pic thread misunderstanding was the start of all. I have done my part.

Now its up to you to if you wanna apologise back for some posts in this thread that shouldnt exist.. IMO even the thread shouldnt had been created in first place. Or you can keep looking for insults in every comment i make and if you dont find one you can always "look between the lines" and keep this "firestorm" alive.

As said thats your choice.

As far as im concerned ive taken responsibility for the starting misunderstanding and ive said all mine unless something else comes up.

EDIT:
oh and btw, thanx for still not listening to other people about me.

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bort
bort


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Supreme Hero
Discarded foreskin of morality
posted November 11, 2003 11:08 PM

Let's all practice reading between the lines.

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DELETE THIS THREAD

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Wasn't that fun?
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Peacemaker
Peacemaker


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Peacemaker = double entendre
posted November 11, 2003 11:36 PM
Edited By: Peacemaker on 11 Nov 2003

Yes, yes yes, bort. Delete this thread.  Yes Stiven, apologize and have me apologize and then delete this thread, so that you can continue to lurk and pounce again and again without any record, and then claim innocence over and over, until some other person (let's see will that make three or four???) finally loses it and can't take it anymore and does the same thing that has happened here, and then they can get blamed for collaborating with me since I am now involved in an insidious conspiracy to bring you down and that's all that is motivating me and it is really me behind it who is poisoning other peoples' minds, and you have no responsibility in this repeated reaction people are having to you.

Yes yes, let's just let this keep happening, again and again, in ways that make people feel sorry for..... Stiven????????????

If you're so innocent then why wouldn't you want this thread to stand and demonstrate just what a nutcase I really am???

bort, what is up man???  Why are you defending this guy??? You seem to be a reasonable person, and very intelligent.  Tell me -- what am I missing here???  Tell me and I will listen because I respect you, you know.  Feel free to IM if you want, or here or whatever.

Just so you'll know (primarily bort), if you haven't figured it out yet, I'm NOT doing this to stir up trouble.  I'm doing it to get him to BACK OFF.  It usually takes a lot for someone to cross my lines.  Going on that typical experience of myself, I trust my own judgement enough at this point to still stand by the original idea here, whether or not I lost it in the middle of things.  Stiven has now actually told lies to make other people look bad and has repeatedly and insidiously accused others who are innocent despite knowing otherwise.   He just gets WORSE.  So tell me why you think this is so far off??? If you think so little of it why do you keep posting in here???

Again, I am really, really ready to listen and take what you say into consideration.

P.S. Stiven why wouldn't I listen when others sneak over, apparently afraid to be confronted by you, and secretly tell me congratulations??? Why doesn't that just confirm the chilling effect I claim you have on people?  

Well trash it all, I'm willing to stand up to you on everybody's behalf who is afraid, and why wouldnt they be.  Look at the fine work you do of it.  Look at how skilled you are in turning it all around.  Go ahead.  Keep trying.  It's wrong for somebody not to at least try and put you in your place and get you to STOP IT.  So here I am.  I'll take the hits that come for it.  Fine.  I STILL think it's the right thing to do.

P.P.S.  Hey, Delfontes  You probably never saw my old signature, it said "Peacemaker = a double-entendre."  LOL  BTW ALL your questions were excellent I think.  I don't know what's going to happen either.

SIGNED,

Peacemaker, the Pacifist-wannabe.
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Celfious
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posted November 12, 2003 01:30 AM
Edited By: Celfious on 11 Nov 2003

its his tossing that should be tossed unless its in a tavern or appropriate place.
Everything else is ok asfar as i see it.



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bort
bort


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Discarded foreskin of morality
posted November 12, 2003 02:48 AM

Why delete this thread?  Because it's nothing but a pissing contest.  "I'm right, you're wrong!"
"No I'm right, you're wrong!"
"Nuh-uh!"
"Uh-huh!"
Neither of you is going to let the other one have the last word, so this is going to continue ad infinitum until Val's server crashes and thousands of years from now all that is left of our civilization is cryptic messages about how Stiven is a doo-doo head.

Why am I defending Stiven?  Well, I'll answer that, too, but not in IM because IM's are how all this crap starts.  What we have here is the person a clique doesn't like in the office.  One day, at lunch somebody mentions something about how they were annoyed at how Gary didn't replace the paper in the copier when he used the last sheet and then somebody complains about how they covered Gary when the office ordered pizza and they never got paid back and by the end of lunch, Gary was the one who stole your french fries when you were 3.  You would worry that you're being over sensitive and you should just let things slide but other people feel the same way!!!!  Therefore it's not you, it's Gary.  Bastard, you really wanted those fries, too.

I'm not pretending that I know what IMs everybody is sending to everybody else, although you've hinted at it here.  I'm not even pretending that I haven't done it, although the number of IMs I've sent at HC can be counted on my fingers.  Hell, I've even got a Gary at work.  (His name isn't Gary, though.  And he's a she.).

Here's the thing though, that's all venting and that's all fine and good, we're all human, we need a chance to just have a good snowfest from time to time.  Take a minor offense, build it up get yourself nice and worked up and hey presto, you feel better afterwards.

BUT, that's where it ends.  You don't get up in a strategy meeting and say "Gary's an snow!"  Because let me tell you one thing, every thing that Gary's done, you've done somewhere too.  Crap like this thread is just being petty and immature.  This is a 3rd grader (yeah, maybe I was giving people too much credit by saying 7th grade) writing "Larry Suggins smells bad" on the blackboard while the teacher isn't looking.  This is throwing spitballs.

Why do I care?  I never can figure that out.  This is just a goddamn on line message board after all.  It's some weird psychological problem of mine, I guess.  But on the other hand, message boards are strange.  They mean so little but people do get so worked up.  (See, it's not me, other people feel the same way!!!)  Every time crap like this happens, the rest of the threads practically grind to a halt and the whole damn communities attention focuses on it (remember on the playground?  The cries of "FIGHT!  FIGHT!  FIGHT! FIGHT!  OH NO, Mrs. Johnson is coming!  RUN!"?)  

I'm not defending Stiven per se although I have no problem with him whatsoever.  I'm attacking the idea of making a thread like this.  Stiven's main flaw is he doesn't know when to leave things alone.  He could have taken the really high road and just ignored the thread, but since you called him out by name in the title it would have taken much more willpower than most people have to avoid scooping up a big ole fist full of mud and start hurling away.  I don't read all the posts here, but I haven't seen a single thing that Stiven's done to have a thread generated for the sole purpose of attacking him.

You say you didn't do this to stir up trouble, you're doing it to get Stiven to "back off?"  You're on line persona says the real life you is a judge.  You must have seen enough human nature to know exactly what was going to happen when you started this thread.  It's absolutely inconceivable to believe that you thought this was going to do anything but start a fight.  We're all running around giving backhanded compliments to eachother and "reading between the lines," so fine, you're way too smart to be that naive.  In the history of humanity has the response to "You're an snow!!!' been "My goodness!  You're right.  I'd best mend my ways?"

That's why I'm "defending" Stiven.  That's why I think this thread should be deleted or at the very least locked.  Although deleted would be better.  The last damn thing we need is another thread in three months where the two of you dredge this crap up and fire three month old quotes at eachother.
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Aculias
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posted November 12, 2003 03:54 AM

This thread is a nightmare.
Everyone attacking or sticking up to Stiven & if you make a comment on his behalf, you lost thier friendship like I have.
What a nightmare.
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Peacemaker
Peacemaker


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Peacemaker = double entendre
posted November 12, 2003 06:24 AM
Edited By: Peacemaker on 12 Nov 2003

Oh, bort!!!

That was a great response to my question.  Thanks.  Now I better understand where you're coming from and I respect that.  How true what you're saying is -- for the most part I agree with you and -- my thoughts will only expand on the same thoughts -- hang on.  I have literally run out of time for right now but there's much to this and I think it's important -- hope so -- but thanks so much for the response.

You'll understand I hope in time but it's really late right now and I absolutely have to abandon right now for real life.  I'll be back with you guys soon ASAP -- promise--

None of you knows my history, my experience.  There are some very well-grounded reasons I have for latching on like a pit bull to this particular kind of behavior, and I promise you, the reason for it in this particular case will be clear in the end.  The guy has revealed some very unusual, very insidious habits that I will not let go of.  This is not the ordinary office gossip thing you're talking about. This is deep-seated, long-term damaging stuff or else I would never have paid it any attention in the first place.   We'll get there.

PEACEMAKER

P.S. Far as I know I don't have a clique, and if I do, those of them in there that  I communicate with have been trying to discourage me from doing this for a while. It was people I've never communicated with before -- people I didn't even know -- who came out the woodwork and said BRAVO.  So better for everybody I'll still say you guys put the heat on me (and if there's a clique then at least give them credit, those who knew, that they tried to discourage me.)

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vesuvius
vesuvius

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posted November 12, 2003 06:36 AM

wow this thread grew fast

n/t
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Peacemaker
Peacemaker


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Peacemaker = double entendre
posted November 12, 2003 06:43 AM
Edited By: Peacemaker on 12 Nov 2003

-- WAIT -- WAIT --

(Peacemaker's attention suddenly distracted by two extrardinarily attractive men) --

(Let's see.  What offal might Sttven make of THAT comment???)

-- LOL!!!
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LichKing
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posted November 12, 2003 07:16 AM
Edited By: LichKing on 12 Nov 2003

Quote:
-- WAIT -- WAIT --

(Peacemaker's attention suddenly distracted by two extrardinarily attractive men...........)



Sheesh, it's about time!!!  I mean, my posts are all the way back on page 1 of this thread and you're finally noticing.

Just curious, who's the other guy you're talkin about?  Don't tell me it's Acu.  He needs a haircut
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Kittenangel
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posted November 12, 2003 09:02 AM
Edited By: Kittenangel on 12 Nov 2003

Lich you leave Acu's long hair alone lol


and I'd reckon she is talking Ven and Khayman in ves's sig picture, and I'd have to agree cause they both hot LOL
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Hexa
Hexa


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posted November 12, 2003 11:23 AM

Nice reply Bort!@
But u contradict what u say when u post in such a thread the way u did.

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