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Adventuring Hero
Homm 4 & 5
posted November 12, 2003 01:06 PM

Cool

Now i can rest in peace!!!

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Jinxer
Jinxer


Legendary Hero
*****
posted November 12, 2003 02:51 PM
Edited By: Jinxer on 12 Nov 2003

Valky, think what you wish. I refuse to argue with you.  I havent played a game in over a month and not sure if I ever will again, so it really doesnt matter to me anymore.

And please quote where I said Sir_Stiven was my buddy!!! You are making stuff up now.  You mentioned I backed him up when YOU were bashing him??  I would back up ANYONE that is being unfairly flamed and bashed by you valky.

Also on a side note you are just as predictable as Sir_Stiven.... I dont think I mentioned your name once in that last post that you Quoted and you felt it nessecary to try and talk down and bash me in your very next post. So you also proved you are not posting on this message board for serious discussion but solely to flame.

Jinxer
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Arangar
Arangar


Famous Hero
Weak ranger - lost viking
posted November 12, 2003 03:11 PM bonus applied.

Let's give Jinxer a chance....

....to test the mighty barb rush!


Basic barb rush strat - map unknown - :

Step 1 : If barb, do nothing
           else if ("chaos nature or life" = true) buy archer

Step 2 : Build, not that lvl 1 dwelling, but your personal immo shack! Then buy 2-5 immos for your barb.

Step 3 : Look at the map! Head for the closest lvl 1 or 2 stack with your barb + lvl1s (as hard as you can beat without spending more than 1 immo!) Kill! Use lvl1s /lvl2s as fodder until your barb is high enough to run solo!

Step 4 : Watch as your hero lvls up!

Step 5 : Around day 2 or 3, depending on map, your barb will be good enough to beat stuff by himself. Give him a fast moving unit to roam the map with!

Step 6 : Once your hero gets expert melee or so, hit a lvl 3 stack. Plenty of xp here! omg

Meanwhile, with the extra cash you have, build your town, buy more immos for your hero if needed, and laugh at opponent during his turns.

Your hero is now good enough to beat stuff by himself (lvl3 stacks and so on) Run around on a killing spree happily knowing your opponent will be rushed within week 3!

If you have spare cash, get several other heroes, have them visit learning stones etc while you wait for your first lvl 4! Then : Give lvl 4 to "other" heroes (tactician etc) and start clearing another part of the map with them.

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Advanced tc_fear rush strat:

This strat has an added super ultra important step called (to make it simple) : - Step 0 -

Step 0: Pick map. Memorize pattern. Repeat until ((turnsForBarbRushToComplete < 15) && (lvlOfBarb >= 17))


Enjoy!



P.S: This strat might possibly be a bit outdated, and it was written in a hurry, so feel free to ask the master himself >>>Tc_Fear<<< for a future update of this FREE PREMIUM STRATEGY GUIDE, to make us all better people and skilled players of HEROES OF MIGHT AND MAGIC IV. Have him contact me on this address: http://www.toheroes.com/loss.asp

(Jinx: If you feel tired one day, and a bit fed up with life, try this WINNING strat for free! It will Cheer you up, and as an added bonus ---> You might even learn a counter to it! )

Next week: How to rush week4 day 7 on Lisp! (jk)

Arangar

weak ranger of h4
eternal servant
publisher of strategic articles

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Jinxer
Jinxer


Legendary Hero
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posted November 12, 2003 03:50 PM

Arangar hehe that was funny. Thanks for the kind thought.  But even if I knew how to do the Barb Rush I wouldnt want to. Even if it made me UNSTOPPABLE and I raised to #1 spot in TOH because of the Barb rush... I wouldnt use it.

Just like the Hit & RUN in h3. Many people exploited it and many records got impressive from the cheesy tactics, but I just see more to the game than the easiest fastest cheesy tactic to get a win.

That is why I have always just been average. But will never sacrifce my morals and enjoyment of the game for a cheap easy win.

Zud proved that you can get to the top of the ranks without the cheesy moves.  So I wonder why people feel the need to do them?  Curious.  I guess thats why Zud is always up for the Highest Honor awards every year lol. Being good with style gets High Honor awards.  Being good without style gets you #1 top ranks but no glory.

@ Arangar.  I doubt LIS can be rushed week 4. I am curious tho to see it done.  Week 5 is about the earliest I think possible to run to all the oracles.  I guess unless you build about 4 High level Barbs and run in 4 different directions.  

Jinxer


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insatiable
insatiable


Supreme Hero
Ultimate N00bidity
posted November 12, 2003 03:52 PM

a quote on 'rush'

i thought part of game excitement is not knowing when opponent going to attack and have to watch out.. not just lie on the sun

Ranger,
you cynical bastage

may i comment that this barb tactic may have side-effects, as not be able to make up a strong heroes team, if exp must be gained by fights mostly

and might heroes NOT always win you creeps
.. neither GM melee is a 'mustbuild' in a hero team.
its not H4 fault many maps allow melee to rule.. yes is veryvery good to have.. but its not: melee(100%win) vs non-melee(0%nochance)
so shut this barbology and play freking game


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Jinxer
Jinxer


Legendary Hero
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posted November 12, 2003 03:59 PM

I must point something out. Comments have been made that Jinxer only wants the game to be about waiting to day 50 and meeting in middle. I must disagree.

If you notice EVERY single map I have made ( 2 ) in H4 have been both open and closed style.  So there can be lots and lots of early engagement with opponent. And possibly a final battle can happen as early as week 2 even on LIS.

Also I think on a completely OPEN map there is no such thing as a rush. If I play anyone of a completely open map and someone comes and attacks me day 7, then so be it, good job. I wont complain. My main beef is when the map is designed as a CLOSED map. Why was it made closed?? To keep the players seperated to make for a longer game. And when someone exploites tactics to drastically shorten the way the map was designed that is rushing in my mind.

So dont characterize me as wanting games to wait till day 50.  

Jinxer
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MSG-1-1
MSG-1-1


Known Hero
posted November 12, 2003 04:29 PM

k..

Arangar, we can continue as soon as exams are over..

Sill waiting for that season 2 answer-....

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insatiable
insatiable


Supreme Hero
Ultimate N00bidity
posted November 12, 2003 04:49 PM

MSG-X

you re off-topic again!
.. bloody offtopicers


sisin2? january or september? don think anywhere in middle be good coz sammar interferes.. no activity-all under water

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valkyrica
valkyrica


Supreme Hero
posted November 12, 2003 05:16 PM

Quote:
I must point something out. Comments have been made that Jinxer only wants the game to be about waiting to day 50 and meeting in middle. I must disagree.


Hmmm, are we too good for you ? 3rd person speaking ... sheeesh

Quote:

If I play anyone of a completely open map and someone comes and attacks me day 7, then so be it, good job. I wont complain.

So dont characterize me as wanting games to wait till day 50.  

Jinxer


play tc, and he'll attack day 2 instead of 7 on an open map and you won't be happy about that either

HAH ! and arangar said he is weak, i think he's the english speaking clone of tc_fear, actually i'm pretty sure of it, seeing his warcraft performances

Valkyrica bows to Ranger of the North, mighty rusher and born leader !

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Arangar
Arangar


Famous Hero
Weak ranger - lost viking
posted November 12, 2003 05:31 PM

- January 1st - fitting start for new season ><

Notice that I do not use this barb strat myself

Part of my weakness!

Arangar
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Norwegian viking
ranger of the north

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insatiable
insatiable


Supreme Hero
Ultimate N00bidity
posted November 12, 2003 05:39 PM

" - January 1st - fitting start for new season >< "

indeed!
from hawai with love


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Blue_Camel
Blue_Camel


Famous Hero
posted November 12, 2003 07:40 PM

hmm, i think somewhere like december 20 is better.. many will be able to play over holidays.. may as well maximize that time by having it dec 20.

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vesuvius
vesuvius

Hero of Order
Honor Above all Else
posted November 12, 2003 07:50 PM

it depends on my schedule too... with the reset I will be doing all the vet medal additions (I'll take care of it -- but it will be about 2 days of work).  So I have to be around to do it.

I'll be in hawaii most of late december...through early january.
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valkyrica
valkyrica


Supreme Hero
posted November 12, 2003 07:57 PM

mid-january sounds perfect as most of us will be under the tables wasted during holiday period

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UndeadLord
UndeadLord


Known Hero
posted November 12, 2003 07:59 PM

I'd like to have it before christmas.
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balcough_dragons


Supreme Hero
unlucky? i want to pump you up
posted November 12, 2003 09:15 PM

lol arangar he will finish with you but what about all those other people?
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vesuvius
vesuvius

Hero of Order
Honor Above all Else
posted November 12, 2003 09:19 PM

lets first see the conclusion of the Caesar Tourn!!
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the_teacher
the_teacher


Supreme Hero
Talk to the hand!
posted November 12, 2003 10:18 PM

Request

Quote:
lets first see the conclusion of the Caesar Tourn!!


is it possible to postpone the deadline of round 2 Caesar for 20th of january ? I think all will agree


seriously now, with few hours on an uncertain Saturday only (this is tc_fear's available time) , i think we can barely complete those 2 or 3 games of round 2, and it's pity to be decided by 1 game , no matter who's the winner.

VES , can you add 2 more weeks to deadline in order to have a natural round 2 finish?

i think it would help HCouncil also, to solve that "issue" which came back in a different shape. I still have around 30K of messages related to (dated some months ago)... ok, it's not the right place to speak, I restrain comments here.




have a nice day

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Aculias
Aculias


Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
Pretty Boy Angel Sacraficer
posted November 12, 2003 11:45 PM

Well you guys have a long wait
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vesuvius
vesuvius

Hero of Order
Honor Above all Else
posted November 13, 2003 06:49 AM

yes, not a problem extending the caesar finals, we have time, don't we? lol.  I want to see games played and finished, not forefits.
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