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insatiable
insatiable


Supreme Hero
Ultimate N00bidity
posted November 20, 2003 10:36 AM

my viewing crystal says April 2005



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terje_the_ma...
terje_the_mad_wizard


Responsible
Supreme Hero
Disciple of Herodotus
posted November 20, 2003 10:48 AM

He-hey!

Does this mean that those hopeless, ugly HoMM5 pics that circulated here a couple of months ago won't be used? *hopeful*
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Gerdash
Gerdash


Responsible
Famous Hero
from the Animated Peace
posted November 20, 2003 11:32 AM

funny surprise seing this tread here

i hope no one has anything against me collecting my graphics style topic and summarizing it briefly?

is it so that individual users are encouraged to send emails or is it preferrably a privilege of morerators?

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Planeswalker
Planeswalker


Famous Hero
Chaotic Good
posted November 20, 2003 12:10 PM

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Does this mean that those hopeless, ugly HoMM5 pics that circulated here a couple of months ago won't be used? *hopeful*


Maybe it means the opposite.
I just hope Ubisoft can make it just like 3do would have.
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Lich_King
Lich_King


Honorable
Supreme Hero
posted November 20, 2003 03:52 PM

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As a player I am mostly a Heroes 3 fan, I only picked up Heroes 4 when starting the project (shame).


NOOOOOOoooo....
Homm5 is doomed....


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Gerdash
Gerdash


Responsible
Famous Hero
from the Animated Peace
posted November 20, 2003 05:58 PM

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As a player I am mostly a Heroes 3 fan, I only picked up Heroes 4 when starting the project (shame).


NOOOOOOoooo....
Homm5 is doomed....


i guess you are right.

i would rather hope that they started with at least homm2, and maybe some kings bounty would also help.

but was it really necessary to post it three times?
*lol*

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Draco
Draco


Promising
Famous Hero
posted November 20, 2003 06:46 PM

lets show them some respect, can we make MuadDib a mod? even if its only for looks.

also we should compile some information for them. wow this is exciting.

we need to update our table on contents and filter the crap out, can we move all threads pre-h4 release to a seperate forum, i.e. old stuff or something, just to keep this place clean?

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Angelspit
Angelspit


Famous Hero
Warrior of the Heavens
posted November 20, 2003 07:50 PM

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we need to update our table on contents and filter the crap out, can we move all threads pre-h4 release to a seperate forum, i.e. old stuff or something, just to keep this place clean?

It sounds like if your mom was visiting you.
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Draco
Draco


Promising
Famous Hero
posted November 20, 2003 08:06 PM

no my mom gave up and getting me to organise my stuff, she does it herself if i leave it out long enouogh

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Delfontes
Delfontes


Known Hero
Sorcerer Extraordinaire
posted November 20, 2003 08:32 PM

Has anyone asked them to host the Patches for H3 and H4?  

Also, has anyone asked if they plan on releasing an H4 compilation, with all the expansions.  Or possibly every heroes game in one package.

I think it could be a good, cheap, way for them to make a little money off the liscense.


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Draco
Draco


Promising
Famous Hero
posted November 20, 2003 09:48 PM

aparently they are watching us, so just ask here and it may be answered with time.

chances are they dont check their emails unless something peaks their interests. they told us they would keep a eye out here. so its best to post here instead of bothering them with emails.

i think there are sites you can get the patches, just look around the forums (in the H4 section)

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Angelspit
Angelspit


Famous Hero
Warrior of the Heavens
posted November 20, 2003 10:38 PM

I asked Fabrice about the older Heroes titles and he had no information to provide (no surprise here).
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Delfontes
Delfontes


Known Hero
Sorcerer Extraordinaire
posted November 20, 2003 11:11 PM

I know where to find them personally, but an official patch page would be a good start.

They could even get the old domain, and repoint it so auto-update would work again.  It would also give them a way to advertise their other games to heroes players.

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Draco
Draco


Promising
Famous Hero
posted November 20, 2003 11:26 PM

i like your thinking.

your hired

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Delfontes
Delfontes


Known Hero
Sorcerer Extraordinaire
posted November 20, 2003 11:41 PM

hehe

Kidding aside, the sooner they see $ from the franchise, the sooner they'll be willing to spend money to make the next one.  Or at least possibly increase the staff/budget that is already there.

The investment for my suggestions above are virtually a zero development cost, but have at least some potential for income.

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MuadDib
MuadDib

Tavern Dweller
posted November 20, 2003 11:44 PM

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chances are they dont check their emails unless something peaks their interests. they told us they would keep a eye out here. so its best to post here instead of bothering them with emails.

This is exactly the other way round I asked for contact persons specifically for mail exchanges, and filtering content through these persons. I'm waiting for some contact through HC by the way...

Okay I'm answering here because I'm spending some of the free time I dont have looking around where people say interesting stuff But I wont have time for this very often.
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Vlaad
Vlaad


Admirable
Legendary Hero
ghost of the past
posted November 20, 2003 11:52 PM

My Heroes V

Most of these ideas have already been mentioned elsewhere. This is just my opinion on them.

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1)Heroes is a turn-based strategy. Simultaneous turns could be introduced but only if it really improves multiplayer. However, include lots of RPG elements.

2)Keep Heroes 2D, or promise us the best 3D graphics ever (we’re talking 2005 here!).

3)The skill system in Heroes IV was good if unbalanced (infamous Combat).

4)Magic schools in Heroes IV were great. More relevant global spells.

5)Keep heroes in combat. After all, this game is not called “Commanders” or something. Please don’t let issues like the price of immortality potions make you think twice.

6)Heroes IV Combat Screen was nice for some time, then I got tired  of watching my troops' asses.
                                                 
7)I never got tired of watching Heroes III Town Screen.

8)Heroes is not Warcraft. The Adventure Screen is a rich fantasy world, not  dull landscape. More interaction.

9)Underground level adds another dimension to each map, but please hire a designer who is not colour blind.

10)Powerful but user-friendly editor, including modding options and random map generator.

[/flame shield]

On to more specific issues (wishlist, in fact )

What I hated most in Heroes IV(aside from poor AI, that is ) was the heroes themselves. After all, this game is named after them! Please make them more unique. The fans tend to identify with their knight or sorceress, but how can anybody even relate to this boring ugly… thing staring at them from the other side of the screen?

First of all, make heroes race-based (I hate to see humans in each town!). Each race should have certain advantages (attack, defense, speed etc).

Give us unique heroes. In Heroes III, each hero had a unique specialty. However, a large number were useless or I didn’t care for most of them. The WoG team introduced specialties like Builder and Darkness in addition to already existing ones (Hopefully, we’ll see some more in the upcoming 3.58 patch).

Race-based heroes could have creature abilities, like Thief (Chaos might hero) shared his Stealth ability with Bandit (Chaos creature). Vampire heroes could drain life (suck blood) or strike enemies without retaliation. Human Knights could have jousting bonus, or maximum morale, or first strike, or stun ability, or undead protection. Dark Elf Assassins could have trail of darkness, or poison attack, or seduce ability… Imagine a dragon hero with fire breath!

My point is that each of 100+ heroes should have a unique specialty.

There are a lot of other skills that have never appeared in the series before. Think of less abstract yet useful adventure abilities: web, tame, barter, steal, ambush…

The current WoG list of Blesses and Curses may be helpful.

Each hero should also have a unique disorder. This feature should balance various advantages and disadvantages. The more powerful specialty, the more serious shortcoming. If your gnome hero barters well, he suffers from muttering, so his Diplomacy skill is reduced 50%. If your mighty necromancer can paralyze enemies, give him arachnophobia, AND introduce Giant Spider creature with web ability.

This is where various protections, immunities, wards and weaknesses come in.

Finally, allow players to customize their heroes and include “import portrait” option.

When I mentioned creatures: each one should have its specialty as well. Heroes IV came close to this point, although some troops still seemed the same but with different figures.

I’m sure every Heroes fan has a creature he/she would like to see come back or disappear forever, so I’ll cut the crap: give us Dark Elves and Giant Spiders. Lots of them.
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Djive
Djive


Honorable
Supreme Hero
Zapper of Toads
posted November 21, 2003 12:21 AM
Edited By: Djive on 20 Nov 2003

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This is exactly the other way round I asked for contact persons specifically for mail exchanges, and filtering content through these persons. I'm waiting for some contact through HC by the way...


I'll take this up with the administrator, in the case you haven't contacted him directly already. I haven't seen this request so far, but I guess I could have missed it.

Meanwhile, since I'm moderating this particular forum, and since the other mod has been inactive for some time I guess I can work as a contact person for a transition period.

Members interested in being the contact person can also volunteer their services. Send in your interest in this thread or through IM. In the end it will be up to the administator (Valeriy) to appoint the contact person.

Oh... and I forgot...

Welcome to Heroes Community MuadDib.
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Lich_King
Lich_King


Honorable
Supreme Hero
posted November 21, 2003 12:42 AM

Yes, Welcome to our community. I hope you'll like here...
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Sir_Stiven
Sir_Stiven


Honorable
Legendary Hero
banned
posted November 21, 2003 02:39 PM

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As a player I am mostly a Heroes 3 fan, I only picked up Heroes 4 when starting the project (shame).


NOOOOOOoooo....
Homm5 is doomed....



Saved i would call it.

Look how heroes4 has turned out now, there is no addictiveness in it at all. Looking at TOH i just saw that there were about 30 active players in heroes4 TOH now. And yet TOH is in on its first season. Compare that to heroes3 TOH who has about the same activity i guess, difference is this game is on its 5th season now...and it has had 2 inbetween seasons...

Bring back alot of the qualities from heroes3 and spice it up with some ideas from heroes4 and bring up several new ones and im sure heroes V will turn out good. Just have heroes3 as the core to build from, not heroes4.

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