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SwampLord
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posted May 06, 2007 11:38 PM

Hopefully not. Most people don't mind gay people- you just get the occasional few that despises them. I have no problem with them.
A couple I know irritate me, but that's becuase of the way they act, not because I don't like them on principle.

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posted May 07, 2007 08:12 AM

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There was a village were everybody was homosexual (bisexual when there was needs of reproduction), except one called Lut along with his family.
So God called upon him to reason with the tribesmen to ambandon this madness. Lut tried for 10 years but it was all in vain.
So God told him to leave the village at dawn and not to wacth behind them.
He and his family left....the sky turned black, there was a rain of fire that purged the entire village.
However God knew that Lut's wife was actually a homosexual so He made her look and what she saw made her turn into ashes.
It concludes: "they recieved a rain of fire, look at the punishment of these criminals."

So naturally, being a Muslim, I believe every single word in the Coran because it was written by a prophet who recieved the words of God.


Why do you believe this? It gives no reason.
And it even says that they are bisexual when need of reproduction so they can reproduce.


And necro, what would you do if your son was gay? Would you kill him?
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posted May 07, 2007 09:40 AM

I think there are more hatefull issies that can cause WW3.
Gays are not one of them.
That is more of a local problem with hate crimes then war.
Religion is mostly the cause of many wars, including the start of this war we are in now believe it or not.
Hate,dif religions,Power,vendetta & more small facts then the big issues.

I will say it straight out.
Somepeople in here dont have thier facts straight at all.
They know the issues but they dont comprehend the small details.
You hear (or see typing so to speak) stuff coming out of here but you dont understand.
Instead you slam those people because you simply can not understand.
What do people do when they do not understand.
They relecule it.
Mock it, make fun of it & then slam the person for it.

This person knows who i am talking about.
Your too young to understand what people have to go through when it comes to the same sex or religion.
Still you come out attacking everyone who has a dif religion or SEEMS like they are making fun of people who are different.

What is different to a human eye.
Gays, dif religion.
Everyone has a quality that others do not.
Why we are not perfect.
We lack & we gain just like every other human being.

So before you open your mouth, THINK little gal.
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posted May 07, 2007 12:15 PM
Edited by TitaniumAlloy at 12:15, 07 May 2007.

@Spectrum:
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This has been brought up many times in this thread before, but I'll say it again... Where exactly in the bible does it say that gayness is a sin?


Well:

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SODOMY IS AN ABOMINABLE SIN, WORTHY OF DEATH.
"If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them." Leviticus 20:13. "Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them." Romans 1:32.
See also Leviticus 18:22, Genesis 19, Romans 1:18-32, I Corinthians 6:9-11, I Timothy 1:10, and Jude 7.



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SODOMITES ARE PROUD OF THEIR SIN ("GAY PRIDE"), AND IN THAT PRIDEFUL STATE THEY CANNOT REPENT - YOU CANNOT REPENT OF SOMETHING YOU'RE PROUD OF.
"Were they ashamed when they had committed abomination? nay, they were not at all ashamed, neither could they blush: therefore they shall fall among them that fall: at the time that I visit them they shall be cast down, saith the LORD." Jeremiah 6:15.
See also Jeremiah 13:23, Romans 1:24-32, Ezekiel 16:49-50, etc.



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THERE IS A HELL WHERE ALL IMPENITENT SINNERS WILL RESIDE FOR ALL ETERNITY. THAT INCLUDES SODOMITES (CALLED "DOGS").
"And they shall go forth, and look upon the carcasses of the men that have transgressed against me: for their worm shall not die, neither shall their fire be quenched; and they shall be an abhorring unto all flesh." Isaiah 66:24. "For without are dogs..." Revelation 22:15.
See also Mark 9:44, Luke 16:23, Revelation 20:15.



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In summary, sodomites are wicked and sinners before the Lord exceedingly (Gen. 13:13), are violent and doom nations (Gen. 19:1-25; Jgs. 19), are abominable to God (Lev. 18:22), are worthy of death for their vile, depraved, unnatural sex practices (Lev. 20:13; Rom. 1:32), are called dogs because they are filthy, impudent and libidinous (Deut. 23:17,18; Mat. 7:6; Phil. 3:2), produce by their very presence in society a kind of mass intoxication from their wine made from grapes of gall from the vine of Sodom and the fields of Gomorrah which poisons society's mores with the poison of dragons and the cruel venom of asps (Deut. 32:32,33), declare their sin and shame on their countenance (Isa. 3:9), are shameless and unable to blush (Jer. 6:15), are workers of iniquity and hated by God (Psa. 5:5), are liars and murderers (Jn. 8:44), are filthy and lawless (2 Pet. 2:7,8), are natural brute beasts (2 Pet. 2:12), are dogs eating their own vomit and sows wallowing in their own feces (2 Pet. 2:22), will proliferate at the end of the world bringing final judgment on mankind (Lk. 17:28-30), have been finally given up by God to uncleanness dishonoring their own bodies among themselves, to vile affections, and to a reprobate mind such that they cannot think straight about anything (Rom. 1:23-28), have wholly given themselves over to fornication and gone after strange flesh (Jude 7), must be pulled as snows from the fire (Jude 23), and have no hope of Heaven unless they repent (Rev. 22:15), which they can't do in their prideful state (Jer. 6:15). They need to hear this truth if they are to have any hope of penitence, faith in Jesus Christ and salvation (I Timothy 4:2-4).




So, pretty much starting in Genesis and ending in Revelation..
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Monika
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posted July 11, 2007 02:32 PM

In Poland it's different. Lesbians are ok, because if a very pretty woman kisses a beatifull woman it's (for the man)sexy, excited etc. etc. But two man.. it's a stereotype, that gay people are snowing ugly, pimpled. So gays are not ok. I think it's stupid...If two peopel love each other than it dosent matter if they are two man, or two womens.... Sorry, for the mistakes....... In Heroes V I think that Findan and Zehir are a couple of gays.
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Consis
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posted July 11, 2007 02:39 PM

*giggle*

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In Heroes5 I think that Findan and Zehir are a couple of gays.

LoL! Hahahaha
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antipaladin
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posted July 12, 2007 01:33 AM

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In Poland it's different. Lesbians are ok


is that from expearnce?
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Setitetart
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posted July 12, 2007 03:37 AM

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But still some people reject that thought and hate the fact that their not doing it "the way God intended". Whats your insight on gay couples? Do you think they should still be accepted by community even more than they are, such as them getting married? What do you think.



I know quite a few gay couples.

They are like any other couple on the face of the planet.

Right now they are not being treated any differently than the bi-racial couples in the 50's-70's...given a hard time, told they cant be together, told they can't have children, judged by friends and strangers alike who can't wrap their minds around diversity or love, not given the same treatment and benefits as same race or hetero couples....

In time, this too shall pass. Just as the up-in-arms- attitude about bi-racial couples eventually did.

Who is ANYone to interpret what God "intended"? Last time I checked no one is on the horn with the man (or woman) upstairs to ask him or her what they really think or what they really intended. I really despise when people drag religion into something that clearly has nothing to do with the Bible or religion. just an excuse to be a narrow minded ***.
besides that if God wantd to send a message to the worls about things, I highly doubt he (or she) would use as their messenger some fat dude with bad hair and unsavory spending habits.

Gay couple stay together longer than any straight couple I know of...
hvae higher incomes and they have to work twice as hard to have the things that they want as a couple, such as children or benifits or even a proper marriage because the world at large can't seem to stay out of their business.

I think they should have all of the advantages AND disadvantages of being a truly married couple.
They should have benefits and children and anything else that a hetero couple would have.

As you can see this is something I feel VERY strongly about.
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Shadey
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posted July 12, 2007 05:03 AM

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Who is ANYone to interpret what God "intended"? Last time I checked no one is on the horn with the man (or woman) upstairs to ask him or her what they really think or what they really intended. I really despise when people drag religion into something that clearly has nothing to do with the Bible or religion. just an excuse to be a narrow minded ***.
besides that if God wantd to send a message to the worls about things, I highly doubt he (or she) would use as their messenger some fat dude with bad hair and unsavory spending habits.


Look, you can play the "who are you to interpret the Bible card"  all day long, the bottom line is the Bible clearly says two things about marriage.  Christians should only marry other Christians.  Men should only marry women.

If you have sex outside of marriage thats called fornication.  It's a sin.  Marriage as the Bible defines it is ONLY between a man and a woman.  If you can't get married, then you the only way you can have sex is by fornication.  It's that cut and dry.  You can be gay if you want to be, you just can't be gay and considered kosher by Christian standards.  

We have our moral code that we live by.  If you don't like it... feel free to live however you want to live.  Just don't think that we're going to accept your lifestyle.  

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violent_flower
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posted July 12, 2007 05:33 AM

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We have our moral code that we live by.  If you don't like it... feel free to live however you want to live.  Just don't think that we're going to accept your lifestyle.


First off thanks for giving permission to all the gays of the world to live how they want, I’m certain they are all throwing you a party right now . Second, who the hell is we, and expect what, as if Christians are a separate entity from gays or anyone else for that matter?

You see Mr. Shady, I don't think that anyone here or anywhere else gives a damn whether you or your cult approves of anything that they do. I don't remember Setitetart giving the old church that you worship, or its manual, a phone call asking for permission or acceptance to do anything.

Not to mention the last thing that your Holy Bible does is speak clearly, maybe you should reread it.


Shady states upon his holey then thou box:
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 It's a sin


Well lets get to the point here Shady, the day that your life becomes sin free (which includes not judging a man for playing slap and tickle games with another man), the day that you completely go even a week without puking some sort of sin onto to others, maybe then you can preach about sin, not a second before.


 

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Setitetart
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Reality check....
posted July 12, 2007 05:46 AM
Edited by Setitetart at 05:52, 12 Jul 2007.

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Look, you can play the "who are you to interpret the Bible card"  all day long, the bottom line is the Bible clearly says two things about marriage.  Christians should only marry other Christians.  Men should only marry women.

If you have sex outside of marriage thats called fornication.  It's a sin.  Marriage as the Bible defines it is ONLY between a man and a woman.  If you can't get married, then you the only way you can have sex is by fornication.  It's that cut and dry.  You can be gay if you want to be, you just can't be gay and considered kosher by Christian standards.  

We have our moral code that we live by.  If you don't like it... feel free to live however you want to live.  Just don't think that we're going to accept your lifestyle.  


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Christians should only marry other Christians.  Men should only marry women.



I suppose you think only blacks should marry blacks and only jews should marry jews...and so on and so forth...it is THAT kind of thinking right there....

Well.

HAHAHAHAHA...hehehe...HAHAHA *ahem* HAHAHA.

Sorry buddy I WILL "play that card"...and I ask again who are YOU to interpret the bible? Or ANY religious text for that matter?
Are you a Priest? A pastor? A Pope? Did you WRITE the Bible?

No? None of those? Ahhh, so you are just another human to come along and put in or edit out texts and passages in the bible as you see fit to twist in whatever context it suites you.

First off...I was raised Catholic, I am well aware of the verses contained herein, so keep them to yourself when you are talking to me. I have enough people spouting bible verses at me and trying to "save" my soul thank you very much.

Secondly, the use of kosher in regards to christianity shows me that theology isn't your strong point. My husband was raised partialy Jewish, so for you knowledge:

Kosher Judaism....
1. ritually pure: describes food that has been prepared so that it is fit and suitable under Jewish law

2. preparing or selling kosher food: preparing or selling foods that are fit and suitable under Jewish law

And lastly who is "WE"? you Christians? YOUR moral code? who's to say I don't have a moral code? What happened to love your brother?
What's all this get thee behind me baloney? Last time I checked, it wasn't the gays against the church or anyone else for that matter.

Maybe that should be on their lists of thngs they should fight for...being able to go to church and have God in their lives without their fellow christians barring them at the door and "stoning" them to death in words and crappy looks.

I think you need to really READ what I said.



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The_Gootch
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posted July 12, 2007 05:59 AM

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Did you WRITE the Bible?


We all know that King James wrote the most complete and factual version to this day.  So don't believe him if he tells you otherwise.  


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Shadey
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posted July 12, 2007 07:24 AM
Edited by Shadey at 07:28, 12 Jul 2007.

Ridiculous ideas from Setitetart and Violent_Flower.

1.  You have to be a priest to interpret the Bible... It's called the Holy Spirit, not to mention that the Bible explicitly expains that all Christians ARE priests.  Not to mention that you're both hypocrites and freely interpret it for your own selfish desires.

2.  I never said anything about "hating" gays.  I feel that homosexuality IS a sin as clearly stated in the Bible, which I use as my sole moral compass.  I don't hate anyone, but feel free to assume so.

3.  That you would call yourself the Devil in your sig, but comment about your immense knowledge of Christianity.

4.  Kosher was a tounge in cheek comment, sorry that it offended you and forced you to copy and paste a definition from the internet...

5.  Like I said feel free to have your own moral code, but when it has nothing to do with what the Bible teaches, then don't expect Christians to accept it.

6.  The Bible doesn't address different races getting married, but it does address the issues of Christians only marrying other Christians and men marrying women.  I'm sorry if that offends your idea of marriage.  Feel free to actually read it.  

7.  Your strawman argument for "loving your brother" doesn't address the issue at all.  It's nothing more than an attempt to change the real topic by making me look like a jerk.  

8.  Obviously people don't care what my "cult" (Christianity) believes otherwise we wouldn't see a world filled with violence, greed, lust, and every other kind of evil.  



Feel free to actually read and study the Bible before you come back here making any claims that homosexuality is justified.  

PS.  My Pastor who has his Ph.D and is an expert in Hebrew and Greek agrees with me.  

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Lith-Maethor
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posted July 12, 2007 09:06 AM

sigh...

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8.  Obviously people don't care what my "cult" (Christianity) believes otherwise we wouldn't see a world filled with violence, greed, lust, and every other kind of evil.


of course, what would we do without Christian morals, as displayed in the bible...

2 Kings: Chapter 2: verses 23-24:
23: And he went up from thence unto Bethel: and as he was going up by the way, there came forth little children out of the city, and mocked him, and said unto him, Go up, thou bald head; go up, thou bald head.
24: And he turned back, and looked on them, and cursed them in the name of the LORD. And there came forth two she bears out of the wood, and tare forty and two children of them.


next time someone calls me shorty, I am bringing out the uzis (or the ouzo, depends on the mood)

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PS.  My Pastor who has his Ph.D and is an expert in Hebrew and Greek agrees with me.


can't speak for the hebrew part, but as a greek I can tell you that the original meaning of "sin" (well, of the greek word for it) is not what you think
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posted July 12, 2007 09:37 AM
Edited by bixie at 19:40, 25 Jul 2007.

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1.  You have to be a priest to interpret the Bible... It's called the Holy Spirit, not to mention that the Bible explicitly expains that all Christians ARE priests.  Not to mention that you're both hypocrites and freely interpret it for your own selfish desires.


the bible was written for the common man to understand. the modern bible that we all use is the byproduct of oliver cromwells puritan rule of england, saying that every house should have one.
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2.  I never said anything about "hating" gays.  I feel that homosexuality IS a sin as clearly stated in the Bible, which I use as my sole moral compass.  I don't hate anyone, but feel free to assume so.


implying that being gay is a sin is hating them, and say that the bible is your sole moral compass isn't wise because it only deals with  issues past. its not likely we are going to deal with another noahs flood again.
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3.  That you would call yourself the Devil in your sig, but comment about your immense knowledge of Christianity.


the devil is a christian invention.
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4.  Kosher was a tounge in cheek comment, sorry that it offended you and forced you to copy and paste a definition from the internet...


i doubt that, remember she has a jewish husband.
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5.  Like I said feel free to have your own moral code, but when it has nothing to do with what the Bible teaches, then don't expect Christians to accept it.


yep, they'll just burn you for being a witch.
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6.  The Bible doesn't address different races getting married, but it does address the issues of Christians only marrying other Christians and men marrying women.  I'm sorry if that offends your idea of marriage.  Feel free to actually read it.  


your speaking to Setitetart, a catholic woman who has married a jewish man.
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7.  Your strawman argument for "loving your brother" doesn't address the issue at all.  It's nothing more than an attempt to change the real topic by making me look like a jerk.  


which of course she doesn't need too.
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8.  Obviously people don't care what my "cult" (Christianity) believes otherwise we wouldn't see a world filled with violence, greed, lust, and every other kind of evil.  


dude have you been outside? its like that! humanity has always been littered with the stuff, even under Christian rule. Waverly abbey, near where i live, has had records of
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the brothel being frequently visited by the abbot

the monks were also able to tax people who, they thought, weren't being religious enough. this was one of the taxes got rid of by richard II.
for violence, the crusades. going around the place, beating up muslims, claiming its in that name of religion.

my point is that homosexuality is a life-style choice. they choose to be it, we live with their choices, they face the consequences if we don't like people who are gay.

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PS.  My Pastor who has his Ph.D and is an expert in Hebrew and Greek agrees with me.  


thats as maybe, he is still a pastor and will always support the bible when it comes down to this arguement.
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Aculias
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posted July 12, 2007 11:25 AM
Edited by Aculias at 11:28, 12 Jul 2007.

What are you talking about.
You are a jerk.
Would Jesus condemn half the world because they dont follow the so called man made best selling book.

So your born a priest because your a Christian lol.
COntradictions just like alot of the stuff in the bible as it seems.
Superstitious dreams.

I always wonder why everyone in a certain time can hear & feel god but no one else has?
Yes you do hate gays.
Anyone Christian hates gays because it's a sin in your eyes.
DOnt give me your crap trying to hide your morals on hating.
Your a hater & you will always be a hater you blonde blue eyes hater lol.

ANyone can call themselves whatever they want.
Hey I can say I am the devil too but it dont mean I actually am.
Hey mono man why dont you actually act human & quit acting like a fanatic.

Like I said morals from the ages past with a book written by man.
Haters of the same sex & probally race too.
Not like every guy is just white.
Nothing but hater replies from you.
One thing I can not stand is a bunch of priests who casts judgement on people.

It's not your place to cast judgement buddy.
Who are you to cast any judgement on anyone.
I bet your a sinner as well as the rest of us.
Or better yet who cares lol.

There is too much hate & in this world we live in we will probally never see peace.
Christianity is no exception either.
You remember that buddy.
Your not in innocence like the rest of us.
Were all human who are born a certain way.

Of course people like you who is Shadey just like your name is why people are at war.
The reason people hate.
THE REASON WHY PEOPLE HATE YOUR RELIGION AS WELL.




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Shadey
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posted July 12, 2007 04:37 PM


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can't speak for the hebrew part, but as a greek I can tell you that the original meaning of "sin" (well, of the greek word for it) is not what you think


Thats amazing.  You can tell me what I think before I even tell you!

Seems to be quite alot of that going on in this thread.  It seems to me that anyone who disagrees with you people on any moral subject is going to get labeled a nazi baby killer.  

Like I said three times now.  You can make as many red herring and straw man arguements as you like.  You'll never take away the fact that the NEW TESTAMENT is very clear and consise about this subject.

I imagine that the next thread will be about beastiality, pedophilia, and incest.  I'd love to hear your opinions on those subjects.  

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posted July 12, 2007 05:15 PM


Hey Slim Shady, first she was not copy and pasting anything from the web, unlike your pastor she knows what the hell she is talking about. Did your great pastor, (who studied a MAN written text) happen to show you the parts of the Bible that contradict themselves or just the
“clearly written” text?



Quoted from the Bible, your great novel that you worship:
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EXO 15:3 The LORD is a man of war: the LORD is his name.

ROM 15:33 Now the God of peace be with you all. Amen.


JOH 10:30 I and my Father are one.

JOH 14:28 Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.


PRO 4:7 Wisdom is the principal thing; therefore get wisdom: and with all thy getting get understanding.

ECC 1:18 For in much wisdom is much grief: and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow.

1 Cor.1:19: "For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and wil bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent."

Exod. 24:9,10; Amos 9:1; Gen. 26:2; and John 14:9



God CAN be seen:
"And I will take away my hand, and thou shalt see my backparts." (Ex. 33:23)
"And the Lord spake to Moses face to face, as a man speaketh to his friend." (Ex. 33:11)
"For I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved." (Gen. 32:30)


God CANNOT be seen:
"No man hath seen God at any time." (John 1:18)
"And he said, Thou canst not see my face; for there shall no man see me and live." (Ex. 33:20)
"Whom no man hath seen nor can see." (1 Tim. 6:16)





That was exhausting to say the least. You see Shaddy, you can believe in the man written word all you want. There are places in the Bible that I was not aware contradicted themselves out right, until my goofy Jehovah witness uncle pointed them out to me. A few spots where God states he will not forgive you for these,(list of sins) ever, then you turn the page( figuratively speaking) and he states he forgives all because God is all forgiving.


Oh give me a ******* break, it is a book, a guideline for those that need something to hold onto because they have no personal security in their own life. If you want to believe that is fine, but hear this and hear it clearly.

Have you ever had sex with anyone other than missionary style? Well I
will assume that your pastor has told you that is a sin right? This is just one example of how absurd it is for you to come on here and preach anything; ever had a lustful thought, ever jerked off, ever judged someone else for what they choose to do behind closed doors? Have you ever harmed your temple with anything such as cigs or drugs of any kind? Thou shall not harm thee temple!

According to the Bible you shall not judge your neighbor, as it is the place of the Lord to do that, not the place of a meaningless man such as yourself. Unlike my niece, whom asks about your credentials, I don’t hold a candle to anyone that stands tall among his own sins to only judge those that are happy and content with loving another person. Do you realize that people are born (putting this in simple terms for you Slim Shaddy) with both a baby factory and a penis? Do you realize how conflicting one would feel; so what your saying is they should never have a sexual relationship because they don’t even know what they are?

If you are Catholic you can be forgiven for all sins by just kneeling and asking for it, like a child asked for a balloon at a carnival. Another religion may ask for you to have some sparkling cider (holy water) splashed upon your sinful head to be forgiven for your bad lustful thoughts.

Shaddy, do me a favor and don’t ask me to read the book before coming at you with facts, because the facts are, the Bible can’t get it straight, it has been rewritten so many times it is completely hit and miss. Be good to one another and live according to how you wish to be treated and all is good.

I have read it over again, I was a church member for a long time, so I know all about your preacher friend that goes behind velvet curtains and has little boys drop to their knees in the name of God (for the record not all preachers do this), so don’t contaminate me with your beliefs.  

 






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posted July 12, 2007 06:08 PM - penalty applied.
Edited by Lith-Maethor at 04:48, 16 Jul 2007.

Wow Violent sure does fit your name well.  It's easy to see how you're much more hateful than I am.  

This isn't a discussion about how to recieve forgiveness and salvation through the Christian faith...  So trying to call me a hypocrite because I'm a sinner just like anyone else, means absolutely nothing.  This isn't about who's the greatest sinner.  It's about your relationship toward God.  God is holy and perfect so he considers homosexuality a sin.  It doesn't matter what I or what YOU think.  It doesn't matter what I think or what YOU think.  That isn't how the system works.  

It's also obvious that you haven't studied the Bible because all of those "contradictions"  are either taken out of context or have an explaination for them.  

If you could care less about the Bible, which is a much greater work than your opinion, then why should I care about your opinion?  (a drug addict)  You bash something, then you expect everyone to cling to your words.  It isn't going to happen.  

I also happen to be a biologist so feel free to use scientific language to describe "the baby factory"...  That is unless you have to use simple language yourself.

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posted July 12, 2007 06:37 PM

Well I have to go by your ignorance in regards to the Bible when it comes to using small words with you. A biologist uh? Well then it should be even more clear to you that having a relationship with a spirit, that you can not see nor feel, seems absurd. Although this should be taken over to the other thread in reference specifically to this subject.

Let me make this very simple for you, you are not suppose to judge others within your "Christan" world that you reside. You have in fact done so in regards to the original question, "what one thinks about gay couples". You have smeared this with Bible quotes and so called facts,  then have the gull to say,
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this isn't a discussion about how to receive forgiveness and salvation through the Christian faith...  So trying to call me a hypocrite because I'm a sinner just like anyone else, means absolutely nothing.


That is correct, you and I are sinners and according to you the sin of the gay man or women is not accepted by your cult, correct? That is what you said in your post, right? So your own faith does not even accept you because why, your a sinner, we all are.

Do yo know that people go to church for all different reasons, if you want to find the greatest of all sinners step foot in a church, that is where they go to be healed and saved by your God.

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If you could care less about the Bible, which is a much greater work than your opinion, then why should I care about your opinion?


So now one has to believe in the Bible in order for you to validate their words, spoken like a true Christian slim.

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God is holy and perfect so he considers homosexuality a sin.


So people are born with disabilities and deformities because God is perfect and Holy, being born both genders and being forced to pick one.  Then live in fear that Christians such as yourself, will come along a spear them in the back with Bible quotes and justify their hatred by holding the book in front of them for protection? Great can't wait to come over to your house for Christmas, maybe you could give me a travel Bible so I can go around a regurgitate this onto others.
 


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