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posted April 13, 2007 07:37 PM |
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Well, perhaps because blacks, latinos, left-handed and so on don't disgust people the way gay people do. That's the difference.. Yes, some people feel just disgusted.
Of course, screaming out loud HEY BROS IM NOT DISGUSTING AT ALL is not the solution.
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posted April 14, 2007 04:00 AM |
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You march, when you are a minority, because you want to show that you are not ashamed of what you are.
Yes, perhaps that is true, but my question is: why, of all the minorities around (black people, latinoamericans, Jewish people, etc etc) only gay people make parades?
All of those groups have their community that supports them(black people do have black parents at least, every religion has their own community).
And black people have marched a lot in history! At least in the U.S. Now things are better for them, and marches are no longer that much needed. The thing is that a lot of gay people are afraid and ashamed of what they are. I know it might ruin your day to see a parade of that kind, but it can be a beacon of light to others. I don's see a way to please everyone on this matter. The general message still is around the world that it is NOT ok to be gay. The parades are held for visibility, so that gay people that are alone can somehow find out that they are not all alone.
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posted April 14, 2007 04:24 AM |
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Can somebody please link me to a page of the bible where it is said that being gay is a sin?
I never found it. Probably because I burned and destroyed all my bibles.
You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination.
(Leviticus 18:22)
Therefore God gave them up in the lusts of their hearts to impurity, to he degrading of their bodies among themselves, because they exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshipped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever! Amen
For this reason God gave them up to degrading passions. Their women exchanged natural intercourse for unnatural, and in the same way also the men, giving up natural intercourse with women, were consumed with passion for one another. Men committed shameless acts with men and received in their own persons the due penalty for their error.
(Romans 1:24-27)
If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
(Leviticus 20:13)
Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators nor idolators, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
(Corinthians 6:9)
For snowmongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine;
(Timothy 1:1)
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posted April 14, 2007 05:08 AM |
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Hopefully this will pass, and people will write a good play about the trial that causes the passing to start. The same thing happened with Evolution vs. Genesis, so soon we will have Femenists vs. Romans.
Also, am I the only Findan+Raelag shipper?
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posted April 14, 2007 07:53 AM |
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Be not deceived: neither fornicators nor idolators, nor adulterers, nor effeminate
LMAO
does it really say that?
girly men go straight to hell 
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posted April 14, 2007 09:11 AM |
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that's the most popular translation, yea 
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posted April 14, 2007 12:31 PM |
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Thanks TitaniumAlloy
My dispite for religion just grew worse... And if there is a god, he's a tiran, imbecile, mongrol... How can he put his own "creations" into a trial like that and hate them while he created them himself... He's terrible, how can you worship such a monster?
And how can you say such stuff about God?
If you don't believe in him, or don't care about him, then stop mentioning him, if you don't like it, then keep away from it.
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Doomforge
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posted April 14, 2007 12:34 PM |
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Excuse me.. this is the thread about Gay people. Not God.
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posted April 14, 2007 12:45 PM |
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And if there is a god, he's a tiran, imbecile, mongrol...
Uhm no, no in fact you're not too bright yourself for not seeing the difference between the Church and God.
Btw Hitler was bisexual 
Lol I have no idea why I mentioned that but that will probably make this thread even hotter 
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Doomforge
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posted April 14, 2007 12:49 PM |
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Hitler liked when his parter pissed on him. Duh.
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baklava
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posted April 14, 2007 01:51 PM |
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And baklava, I was talking about the bible-god here, not about the god your worshiping..
Well yeah but you still said just God. Besides, God is God; though he's represented differently in most religions. You alluded that God doesn't exist just because Church misunderstood his point.
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I really think it's annoying that there are like 1000-kinds of religions out there... it makes things much more complicated to explane.
God isn't a simple thing, Ash... His (her? its?) beauty lies in the sole incomprehensibility. Everyone has the right to worship and understand him as they please; as long of course as they don't force that opinion onto others, like most organized religions unfortunately do...
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posted April 14, 2007 02:25 PM |
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Am I the only Findan+Raelag shipper?
Also, does anyone else consider the possibilty that Jesus was gay?
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baklava
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posted April 14, 2007 02:33 PM |
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Well does anyone consider the possibility that Jesus was black?
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posted April 15, 2007 02:14 PM |
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IRH,
--->Hating humans = hating yourself = hating everyone = dangerous person<---
last year i was hating myself and i sworn to suicide if one more thing goes bad but that one bad thing didn't happened but good things, and i didn't hate from people just love them more then myself. I'm not hating myself now, because all things reverse 
nearly all things. I'm gay myself and boys around me just hates me(i told them), but for every bad things they do to me and every bad things they say i will do good things for them(as always i did btw i'm not religious person i just believe god but not books) and i know they have hearts, too. I'm in love with someone and he loves me too i could die for him too. I didn't told anyone in my family that i'm gay if i told them i'm sure they will do very bad things to me and people in my country hates from gays (i don't know why but very hard for me). Once my brother caught me when i was looking gay sites (not that bad just wanted to have some friends who can understand me) and he said very bad things to me, i'm very scared and told him i was just curious about them. He told me that, all right but don't enter that sites again them i couldn't move for 5 minutes until my mother came then he didn't told anything because i know he's not bad person but he's like other persons in my country and i think if he learns that his brother is gay he'll be very angry and sad so i didn't told him. Also when i'm decided to know that i'm gay i was in love with a boy but he was straight and i loved him so much, he thought we were just friends i was just acting like friend because i liked him both way as a best friend and as a love.
I'm trying to stay as a friend with him now. So what you think about this? Is anti-gay country will be good? Killing them (yes in some provinces of my country) or torturing them. I think who want's anti-gay country is a sadist and very bad person.
P.S.: I'm bad in English because i'm trying to learn both German and English same time.
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posted April 15, 2007 02:37 PM |
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All I can say is I hope you get by ok Condor, those things you describe really suck. I've seen various friends go through similar stuff and it's not easy by any means particularly when you live somewhere almost everyone thinks that you're violating divine will or some **** like that, just by being who you are.
Fingers crossed for you.
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posted April 15, 2007 03:05 PM |
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Good Luck Condor.
Also, I want an answer to this question:
Am I the only Findan+Raelag shipper?
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Doomforge
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posted April 15, 2007 03:35 PM |
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Yeah, I also wonder what kind of country is that.. I mean, in Poland, people have mixed-up oppinions about gay people, but nobody wants to kill or torture them.. (well, let's skip some nazi idiots here.)
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posted April 15, 2007 04:20 PM |
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Oh well, for my post has been quoted, let's write some stuff there... I don't think it's worth discussing total hatred there. Condor, your point of view about other ppl should be respected, yet be careful with it. Humans sometime may just use you while you do good to them...
And what about your orientation - again, be careful. I don't know what is to be real gay and what do they fell, might be it's like... being in state of cold civil war, like being a vigilant spy, when every friend or relative might suddenly become your enemy...
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posted April 15, 2007 04:23 PM |
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Hmm .... Condor,
I remember that quote very well Condor. I have told many stories in this thread. Please don't give up on your search for happiness. You are an individual and no person anywhere has the right to attack you for what you feel on the inside.
Everyone is wondering what country you are from. I suspect scandanavian region. Why else would you try to learn english and german? I also noticed the music and tv shows you like. I know others from those countries who share your interests in music, games, and languages.
I love Heroes III and Baldurs Gate too. Welcome to Heroes Community! Thankyou for sharing your story with us!
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posted April 16, 2007 05:32 PM |
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First, thanks for supporting me.
I don't want you to think bad about my country so i decide not to tell but only if you insist on this . (not scandinavian lol) I'll try to stand against them i don't run because of my choices maybe they'll understand the things, i hope. In east side of my country even polices are torturing gays . I'm in the west side but not so different.
IRh, i'm careful about that, but again i'm saying they must have a heart, don't they?
Consis, i'm happy now yes very happy because the things reversed and my wishes come true (nearly)(and all of them happened like miracle i'm not exaggerating maybe somebody doesn't wants me dead because just 1 thing didn't happened can you believe it? i still can't believe it ). They don't have any rights but what if everyone supporting the person even the authorities as in my country but girls don't have any problems with gays, many girls, i know it's hard to understand by your side and i can't explain you, too it's very complicated. I'll update my profile soon.Why wrote this? because I need to share it with people who can understand me, this makes everything easier... oh, and today is my birthday. I want to make some musics for mods like wog later if i found a music group. (but you might wait this for so long)
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