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WoW Elune worshippers?
bah, they are heretics, they think Elune gives shadow magic... Elune is omnibenevolent, shadow magic was taught to the Kaldorei by troll Shadowdancers
...wow, isn't that scary? this sort of argument sounds... familiar
and shadey... your suspension of disbelief is astounding... so much it pretty much invalidades any points you may actually have (if you do) about gay people
and no, i am not gay (my gf is bi, thankyouverymuch) but this kind of bigotry is insulting to me as a human being
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Comparing homosexuality with alcoholism and fornication is a severe insult to members who are gay, or have gay friends. It's against the Code of Conduct, and should be penalized. Period.
Or is a severe insult to members who are alcoholics or have alcholic friends.
And what about gay-alcoholic people??
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posted July 17, 2007 05:52 AM |
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Same amount of sin as normal alchoholics.
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Comparing homosexuality with alcoholism and fornication is a severe insult to members who are gay, or have gay friends. It's against the Code of Conduct, and should be penalized. Period.
Or is a severe insult to members who are alcoholics or have alcholic friends.
And what about gay-alcoholic people??
OMG...HAHAHAHA. *snorts* Hahaha...hehe.
How about gay-alcoholic-fornicators even.
Oh my.
I should stop now. LMAO
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Shadey,
one thing i can't stand is a bigot that uses the bible for there own gain, which is a sin in itself. i follow, or try to follow as close as any one person can, the new testament, which starts out with the four books of christ. if christ thought that gay people were a big issue, don't you think he would have addressed it? i have yet to find, or anyone else that i have challenged, a passage that says that gay people are sinners. in the four books of christ. this is the one i follow, not john, not paul, not the old testament, but christ.
what i have read is a lot of back talk, covering you rear end, to make a point that is clearly bigotry.
funny how your sect of christianity doesn't agree with homosexuality, when my sect actually has ordained ministers that are gay.
this tells me that my sect actually agrees with: love thy neighbor, as you would yourself. your sect on the other hand does not agree with christ's teachings and in all actuallity, are not christians.
yeah i know you think that is a lame arguement, but the truth of the matter is, it is the arguement. christ doesn't condone the bigotry that you have excercised in this forum, repent.
and for your information, i respect all religions, as i know that our god was not stupid and knew that there would be differences in opinion as to how to glorify him. he has many names, and they all point to one god.
so to put this in one statement, bigotry bad, acceptance good.
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posted July 19, 2007 07:23 AM |
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Hey Smity, how is my boy doing?
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posted July 19, 2007 08:23 AM |
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wow GC, as like the first post I read by you, I think you are great! Lovely post, well written, and brings back this memory of an episode of "Vicar of Dibley" where everyone thought the vicar (vicar = British for pastor/preist) was gay.
Also, is shadey gone for good? Cause if so, darn. I really didn't like him, but it was fun dueling with him and Consis. I think VF and me are like Qui Gon and Obi Wan, and then ST was Luke. (or leia. Hey, idea, Feminist remake of Star Wars!)
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posted July 19, 2007 10:47 AM |
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would that make me R33?
Anway , like i said to ST, Shady is a sheep.
Meny people in this world are sheeps,unable to think outside of the box, they have been brainwashed for meny years to be programmed to think that.
He fallows hes so to speak religiouse leaders blindlessly,in hes conservertive community,it is too late for him to saved,and i do get the irony. With people like this it is pointless to argue to trying convince of something they're sheaperd didn't agree to.
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posted July 19, 2007 10:52 AM |
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dudes, i never new what me and setitetart went so far!
jeez, you've scared him away, now!
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posted July 19, 2007 10:53 AM |
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so to put this in one statement, bigotry bad, acceptance good.
That was one admirable post by GothCowboy.  I think this line really sums it up better than anything I've seen so far.
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posted July 19, 2007 11:03 AM |
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There's a bar in Melbourne which you are not allowed to go into (by law) unless you are gay. (don't ask me how that works...)
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posted July 19, 2007 07:06 PM |
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Anway , like i said to ST, Shady is a sheep.
that made me smile, reminds me of one of my many favorite quotes:
Cordelia: Harmony, shut up. [Xander looks back] Do you know what you are, Harmony? You're a sheep.
Harmony: I'm not a sheep.
Cordelia: You're a sheep. All you ever do is what everyone else does just so you can say you did it first. And here I am, scrambling for your approval, when I'm way cooler than you are 'cause I'm not a sheep. I do what I wanna do, and I wear what I wanna wear. And you know what? [Xander smiles] I'll date whoever the hell I wanna date. No matter how lame he is. [Xander stops smiling]
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posted July 19, 2007 07:34 PM |
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He reminds more of a sheep dog, the one that is to corral all the Godless people of the world into a neat ‘god fearing’ blanket. He feels as though this is his mission; what he does not realize is that people are more receptive to feel good words and not judgmental crap. For someone that volunteers at soup kitchens and helps the elderly, he should know better than to take one whole group and just spit on them and their beliefs.
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posted July 19, 2007 08:43 PM |
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one thing i can't stand is a bigot that uses the bible for there own gain, which is a sin in itself. i follow, or try to follow as close as any one person can, the new testament, which starts out with the four books of christ. if christ thought that gay people were a big issue, don't you think he would have addressed it? i have yet to find, or anyone else that i have challenged, a passage that says that gay people are sinners. in the four books of christ. this is the one i follow, not john, not paul, not the old testament, but christ.
what i have read is a lot of back talk, covering you rear end, to make a point that is clearly bigotry.
funny how your sect of christianity doesn't agree with homosexuality, when my sect actually has ordained ministers that are gay.
this tells me that my sect actually agrees with: love thy neighbor, as you would yourself. your sect on the other hand does not agree with christ's teachings and in all actuallity, are not christians.
yeah i know you think that is a lame arguement, but the truth of the matter is, it is the arguement. christ doesn't condone the bigotry that you have excercised in this forum, repent.
and for your information, i respect all religions, as i know that our god was not stupid and knew that there would be differences in opinion as to how to glorify him. he has many names, and they all point to one god.
so to put this in one statement, bigotry bad, acceptance good.
You love to throw the word bigot around don't you. Christ is bigoted against the devil, is Christ a bad person? I'm bigoted against the concept of rape as well. Do you think rape is ok? Clearly in your mind anyone who stands up for themselves on an issue is a bigot...
Your post has so many holes in it I can't believe you hit the Submit Reply button.
1. How exactly am I using the Bible for my own gain in this situation? The comment doesn't even make sense. Explain yourself.
2. You not finding any passages that address the practice of homosexuality is your own fault for intentionally disregarding the text's message. There are equally intelligent people arguing for both sides of this debate. I hold to the views of conservative Christians that interpret the Bible's teachings that homosexuality is a sin and against the intended use of sex.
3. It really isn't funny to me that your sect ordains homosexuals as pastors. That of course is the right of your sect and it's members to participate in that practice. I won't withhold my love from you.
4. Members of my congregation love homosexuals just the same as ourselves or any other neighbor. Perhaps you have love confused with tolerance? God is not tolerant of sin, but loves sinners and wishes for them obey the gospel. You might know this anyways and just wanted to personally attack me?
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bigotry bad, acceptance good.
I guess I can only assume that you participate and enjoy rape, murder, stealing, assualt, genocide, and torture. Otherwise, you would be a bigot.
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posted July 19, 2007 09:17 PM |
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I guess I can only assume that you participate and enjoy rape, murder, stealing, assualt, genocide, and torture. Otherwise, you would be a bigot. I won't withhold my love from you.
Here is the definition of love Shadey, the Biblical definition:
“Biblical definition of love: 1 Corithians
Love is patient and kind; love is not jealous or boastful; it is not arrogant or rude. Love does not insist on its own way; it is not irritable or resentful; it does not rejoice at wrong, but rejoices in the right. Love bears all things; believes all things; hopes all things; endures all things.”
Definition of endure: “To bear with tolerance”
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Members of my congregation love homosexuals just the same as ourselves or any other neighbor. Perhaps you have love confused with tolerance? God is not tolerant of sin, but loves sinners and wishes for them obey the gospel. You might know this anyways and just wanted to personally attack me?
Ok Shadey, so as you can see from above, that even according to your manual to a happy life, it states in its own terms that love endures all things, endure means to bear with tolerance, something that your cult has not found yet. You completely contradict yourself. So GC will not only push the reply button, but he is also going to push you onto your knees with a box of tissues. I would have used the word hypocrite instead of bigot, but if the cloak of ignorance fits, wear it sweetheart.
You don’t want to harbor gays in your building that you worship God in unless they are willing to say they know that they are sinners and they will burn in hell unless they repent. You avoided my statement like the plague about humans that are born with two sets of genitals. In your “scientific” opinion what the hell do they do?
In the eyes of your God what are they? And are they suppose to just not act sexually or have any sort of normal life because people such as yourself cast stones at them, insisting that if they belong to your church they should just get over how they feel? Do tell or will you avoid this again, because the truth is you have no answer, you have not thought this far ahead because in order to learn and expand your mind you need to be able to think for yourself, not allow a leather bonded book to think for you.
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posted July 19, 2007 09:42 PM |
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Shadey seems to contradict himself when it suits him. Are we sure he's a Biologist and not a Lawyer?
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i spoke too soon
yes, Christ is a bad person for being bigoted against the devil. what is so bad about the guy, apart from being the total and complete incarnation of the Christian evil?
bearing in minds that the same Christians organized the Crusades, the Purging of the Picts, the Witch hunts, the killing of thousands of native Americans, and even this day still have dodgy inner workings around payment for bishophoods, pedophilic pastors and an solemn and morose fun-haters (come on, puritans aren't fun)
to be honest, i would rather be out with a drink with the devil than Christ. with christ it would be like
"you out for a drink?"
"you do know that drinking is not the best thing to be doing with your life!"
"yes, but its a way to relax"
"you could relax instead by listening to music"
"my music is the kind that gets you riled, you know, metal, punk, and rock?"
"you could start listening to some nice classical music, like Elgar, or Liszt."
"what about Mozart?"
"oh, he isn't as holy as Elgar!"
"Now i see what your driving at, mate?"
"yep"
"conversion and stop drinking?"
"yes"
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"i don't know how you made it in Ireland and Scotland, mate."
" oh, they will come around eventually"
"**** off!"
with the devil it would be like
"you out for a drink?"
"Yeah, come on, lets go!"
"you don't mind paying"
"come on, you only live once!"
"Ok, but after last night, I'm not doing the karaoke again."
"alright, spoil sport, i do it. who knows, i might get a few girls to come over. Or maybe a guy, i feel homosexual!"
"no stable relationship"
"life's too short!"
"alright!"
two very different evenings.
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posted July 19, 2007 10:31 PM |
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All I can say is "...blink...blink..."
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posted July 19, 2007 10:36 PM |
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I guess I can only assume that you participate and enjoy rape, murder, stealing, assualt, genocide, and torture. Otherwise, you would be a bigot. I won't withhold my love from you.
Here is the definition of love Shadey, the Biblical definition:
“Biblical definition of love: 1 Corithians
Love is patient and kind; love is not jealous or boastful; it is not arrogant or rude. Love does not insist on its own way; it is not irritable or resentful; it does not rejoice at wrong, but rejoices in the right. Love bears all things; believes all things; hopes all things; endures all things.”
Definition of endure: “To bear with tolerance”
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Members of my congregation love homosexuals just the same as ourselves or any other neighbor. Perhaps you have love confused with tolerance? God is not tolerant of sin, but loves sinners and wishes for them obey the gospel. You might know this anyways and just wanted to personally attack me?
Ok Shadey, so as you can see from above, that even according to your manual to a happy life, it states in its own terms that love endures all things, endure means to bear with tolerance, something that your cult has not found yet. You completely contradict yourself. So GC will not only push the reply button, but he is also going to push you onto your knees with a box of tissues. I would have used the word hypocrite instead of bigot, but if the cloak of ignorance fits, wear it sweetheart.
You don’t want to harbor gays in your building that you worship God in unless they are willing to say they know that they are sinners and they will burn in hell unless they repent. You avoided my statement like the plague about humans that are born with two sets of genitals. In your “scientific” opinion what the hell do they do?
In the eyes of your God what are they? And are they suppose to just not act sexually or have any sort of normal life because people such as yourself cast stones at them, insisting that if they belong to your church they should just get over how they feel? Do tell or will you avoid this again, because the truth is you have no answer, you have not thought this far ahead because in order to learn and expand your mind you need to be able to think for yourself, not allow a leather bonded book to think for you.
First off I would argue that your definition of the word endure is wrong in this case. It's the Greek work hypomeno and means "to stand firm." Using the correct definition of the word I would agree that love stands firm under all things. Sorry, but perhaps next time your witty attack will have some real weight and actual knowledge instead of "ignorance". No, dispite your opinion I'm not on my knee's with a box of kleenex's.... Sweetheart
As to your hypothetical situation concerning someone born with both sets of genitalia. Since we can live in a modern world with medical tests such as chromosome analysis. I'm sure that it won't be hard at all to determine the "real" sexual identity of that individual. Although I'm sure you already know that there is no such thing as a "true hermaphrodite" in humans. "What the hell do they do?" Well as best as I can answer the question. I'd say that they ought to behave as their sex is determined. If they are males, they ought to marry and have sex with females. (if at all possible) If they are females, then vice versa.
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posted July 19, 2007 11:07 PM |
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Dude, first, grow up and live in the modern world, and face the fact that matrimony has not the only answer. second, let people do what the hell they want to with their sexual organs, hell, its theirs! for all i can care, they could anal rape a crab!
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