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Heroes Community > Heroes 7+ Altar of Wishes > Thread: Evolution of the Black Dragon
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regnus_khan
regnus_khan


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[ Peacekeeper of Equilibris ]
posted January 30, 2004 10:02 PM

in history, ancient mages unfolded some anti-magic spells. they created an anti-magic shield with diamonds to the dragons and strengthened them to be the greatest ones. that's the main thing why dragons are immune to magic.
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Lich_King
Lich_King


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posted January 30, 2004 10:05 PM

Well Not quite... Dragon means Dragon... at least now and the multi headed Gorynych with breath attack is called "Slibinas". It is something btw Dragon, Gorynich and Hydra... Weird Mythology...
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solmyr_ibn_b...
solmyr_ibn_barad


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Supreme God of Order
posted January 30, 2004 10:06 PM

Rite so they are not naturally (supposedly) immune to magic, ur here now regnus and lich knig?
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regnus_khan
regnus_khan


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posted January 30, 2004 10:08 PM

I know you know it in Lithuanian, but I just didn't want to say the name. Yes, it's between hydras, dragons and gorynychs. Also, it loves to eat young girls and is often slayed by a "brave knight that is in love with the girl"
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Lord_Woock
Lord_Woock


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posted January 30, 2004 10:11 PM

Of all the HoMM dragons, I like the H2 Boner the best. Back then they were an unstoppable force - once you bought your first green dragon, there was already a necromancer with six or seven boners out and about (in some cases right in front of your castle). HoMM3 morphed them into the worst creatures on the level whose only use was to increase the Necros' chance of getting the first spell in.
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EldGiffen
EldGiffen


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NobleGriffen Master Of Birds
posted March 31, 2006 03:47 AM
Edited by EldGiffen on 2 Apr 2006

BlacK DRagon

Black Dragons Are a litte to powerful, Weaken them up
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PosionOfUndead
PosionOfUndead


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posted April 19, 2006 11:00 AM

I would very much like it if you added growth and cost in your list.
But after all, I am so tired of hearing about the greatness of the Black Dragon.
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tatianakyrrn
tatianakyrrn

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posted April 19, 2006 01:28 PM

Quote:
Of all the HoMM dragons, I like the H2 Boner the best. Back then they were an unstoppable force - once you bought your first green dragon, there was already a necromancer with six or seven boners out and about (in some cases right in front of your castle). HoMM3 morphed them into the worst creatures on the level whose only use was to increase the Necros' chance of getting the first spell in.


yea i agree with that one, and in HOMM4 those bone dragons seem to beat the crap out of me ever time.  someone always seems to have a ton of them by the time i start building anything up.  I used to love the black dragons till 4 came out and they became too expensive to possibly be worth the trouble!
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sick_46_boy
sick_46_boy


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posted May 15, 2006 02:46 PM

I think theat black dragons are still best in the heroes3,butt I did not seen black dragons from h5,not a even one pics.So if someone hawe some h5 black dragon pics it would bee nice to put them here.
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Dragon_Slayer
Dragon_Slayer


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posted May 15, 2006 04:17 PM
Edited by Dragon_Slayer at 07:30, 21 May 2006.

I actually cant find a decent pic right now, and i cant be bothered looking anymore. If someone finds one post it up and ill add it to this post. Here are the stats and a brief description, not written by me.

Flyer
Attack - 30
Defence - 30
Initiative - 10
Speed - 9
HP - 240

The ominous Black Dragon has returned, and it is once again a destructive force on the battlefield. It deals the highest damage of any creature, has excellent attack and defense ratings, blazing speed, great Hit Points. The only slightly mediocre element is its initiative, at a 'lowly' 10. Its magical immunity makes the Black Dragon very difficult to defeat, seeing as there is no creature that can even stand up to its physical prowess.

(I think that little description was written by The_Hydra)

Can anyone give me a better insight of the BD in HV
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Thanatos
Thanatos


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posted May 21, 2006 10:43 AM
Edited by Thanatos at 10:44, 21 May 2006.

Screenshot taken from the Dungeon creature page:




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DragonLord3000
DragonLord3000


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Romanian flamethrower
posted September 18, 2006 06:04 PM

Quote:
Welcome to Dragon Slayers guide on the evolution of the Black Dragon. Here you will find information on the Black Dragon throughout Heroes I, II, III and IV. The Information on heroes I may be a bit inaccurate. Unfortunately I was not able to find a picture of the Black Dragon from Heroes I, maybe someone who owns Heroes I could post one.

Heroes I
Attack: 12
Defense: 12
Damage: 25-50
Speed: Medium


Heroes II


Attack: 14
Defence: 14
Damage: 25-50
Health: 300
Speed:Very Fast
Moral: Good
Luck: Normal


Heroes III

Attack: 25
Defence: 25
Damage: 40-50
Health: 300
Speed: 15


Heroes IV

Attack: 40
Defence: 40
Damage: 55-110
Health: 400
Haste: 7
Movement: 30/15


Well the Black Dragon is most possibly the most popular creature in the HoMM series.



Who else????
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antipaladin
antipaladin


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posted September 18, 2006 06:13 PM

titan,elf,knight

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DragonLord3000
DragonLord3000


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Romanian flamethrower
posted September 18, 2006 06:28 PM

Do you think of elves as giant and destructive?
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Finarfinn
Finarfinn


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son of Finve
posted September 18, 2006 10:55 PM

Black Dragon was the strongest creature in Heroes1, Heroes2 and Heroes4, and one of the strongest creatures in Heroes3. It is truth that the firs and partially second game are imbalanced because of Mighty Dragons.
In all this games Black Dragons are IMMUNE AGAINST MAGIC! At the present, Nival taked a very THOUGHTLESS decision! Spell which deals non-magic damage and affects Black Dragons! This is very very insultingly for hard-core HOMM fans.

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Maurice
Maurice

Hero of Order
Part of the furniture
posted September 19, 2006 09:11 AM

You mean the Fist spell? It conjures a fist in the air which then slaps the Black Dragons silly.

However, we're treading on dangerous ground here, ground that has also been covered before. If you assume that Magical-immune creatures can be damaged by conjured objects (in this case a fist in the air), why don't they take damage from a conjured huge icicle (Ice Bolt) or rocks falling down (Meteor Shower), a conjured set of spikes (Stone Spikes, Circle of Winter) or a blast wave (Fire Ball, ignoring the fire damage)?

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Finarfinn
Finarfinn


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son of Finve
posted September 19, 2006 11:05 AM

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You mean the Fist spell? It conjures a fist in the air which then slaps the Black Dragons silly.

However, we're treading on dangerous ground here, ground that has also been covered before. If you assume that Magical-immune creatures can be damaged by conjured objects (in this case a fist in the air), why don't they take damage from a conjured huge icicle (Ice Bolt) or rocks falling down (Meteor Shower), a conjured set of spikes (Stone Spikes, Circle of Winter) or a blast wave (Fire Ball, ignoring the fire damage)?

Yes, that is interesting question!
Also why dont creature's Defence prevent that Physical damage? It is the same type damage like hand-to-hand or range damage: Physical!

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diablo-jr
diablo-jr


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posted September 19, 2006 05:18 PM

Well I don't think we're entering a dangerous time but finally entering a time were all creatures are at threat to spells.and the black dragon should be no diffrent.now with the new ability in heroes 5 that gives your heroe the ability to strip away the magic resistance from any creature,all I can say is its about time.ever since heroes 2 black dragons and titans have been the monsters to get now they have both been brought down to a level were you still get a good benifit if you have them.But now they can be beat easly under the right situation.so now you no longer have to run when you see black dragons and titans coming your way.and if you lower the black dragons magic resistance then the benificial spell will work on them as well and there's some nice spell i would have loved to be able to use on dragons.but you can't b/c of there resistance.
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ggnarl
ggnarl


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posted September 20, 2006 10:38 PM

Quote:
You mean the Fist spell? It conjures a fist in the air which then slaps the Black Dragons silly.

However, we're treading on dangerous ground here, ground that has also been covered before. If you assume that Magical-immune creatures can be damaged by conjured objects (in this case a fist in the air), why don't they take damage from a conjured huge icicle (Ice Bolt) or rocks falling down (Meteor Shower), a conjured set of spikes (Stone Spikes, Circle of Winter) or a blast wave (Fire Ball, ignoring the fire damage)?


Well, in the history of Might & Magic, dating back to the old RPGs, there has always been "magical damage" and "physical damage." I remember that Clerics in the old RPGs always had the Flying Fist spell that did physical damage even to magically imune creatures. All the elemental spells, whether damaging through fire, rocks, ice, etc. were magical. That kind of magic, even though it looks concrete in the animation, is really etherial.

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dkolb
dkolb


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posted September 21, 2006 03:15 AM
Edited by dkolb at 03:30, 21 Sep 2006.

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Of all the HoMM dragons, I like the H2 Boner the best. Back then they were an unstoppable force - once you bought your first green dragon, there was already a necromancer with six or seven boners out and about (in some cases right in front of your castle).

Wow I had no idea that necromancers were THAT fond of green dragons!!!
HAHAHAHAHAHA omg that's toooo funny that's going in my sig!
God Bless you Lord Woock

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