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bjorn190
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posted April 14, 2004 09:06 PM |
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do you think racism is still present, even the opposite of the understood, giving special privilages to someone just because they are the right color?
*Yes
this is a statement that i have just put into my head.
does every show really need a reference to every demographic?
*huh?
does everything require a reference to the past and what people had done in the name of the past happenings?
*No
is being politically correct really correct morally?
*No
if there are systems helping people of "minorities" really helping them or are they messing with people of other "minorities/majorities?"
*"Gifts" just make the problem permanent. Systemic changes are needed.
do people really need to be classed more than his/her nationality?
*Yes, it is the way our society works. Everyone gets a number, grades, records, journal, etc. It helps is feel more secure about eachother, so we dont have to fear being killed by someone.
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the point i'm getting at is people don't understand that we aren't helping the situation until we put the fact that we are from the same land in this generation. this isn't something we can just pass over. i don't understand why things are the way they are. and what better place to find out about this sort of thing than a place where you can't even prove if the person you are talking to, referring to is a male, female, androgonous, or ai.
*It's like that because of scarcity of resources and because of uncertainty.
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drikx
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posted April 15, 2004 12:07 AM |
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right, but with the scarce recources, shouldn't they be a little more spreading of the things out, working to benifit the ones that have no way of making something of themselves without this help?
a person can get into college just as easy if they had the opportunities, regardless of demographic. i think if i ever get a lot of dough, i'm gonna start the grunge college fund. or is that derogatory and racist?
i know, i'll start a school that only accepts white folk, but wait, that's not allowed.
perhaps i'm just as racist as the next man, if i am, it was taught by the society, family, everything. this is where it comes from. no one is born to hate something else, it just happens.
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Consis
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posted July 16, 2007 12:55 AM |
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"Cracker" - When Used In A Certain Context
I couldn't agree more with Dingo's first post on the first page....Now more than ever.
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Setitetart
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posted July 16, 2007 01:02 AM |
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I belief that racism is alive and well all over the world. Unfortunately.
I don't personally think that being "PC" necessarily helps the situation since these days it can be quite hard to decide what is or is not "acceptable" "PC" talk.
For example, in a poll of my Myspazz readers who are for all intent and purpose "black" at least half of them detest the phrase "african american" for the sole reason that they were not of african descent.
Such as being a jamaican-american.
So really, how is one to really KNOW what IS acceptable?
I keep it safe and I refer to people as PEOPLE not whether they are black or white or pink or purple with plaid stripes.
I could care less what color, nationality, gender, or religion someone is so long as they treat me and/or my family with due respect and good will. if they CAN'T do that that I just excuse myself from them as politely as I am able to....
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Cracker.
That one is almost laughable....
Personally I have been called many things. Some of which were true, and others which were not.
I have been called a crazy cracker girl by black co-workers...I have told I am so white I glow in the dark...I have been called a lot of things. But really, none of things bother me. After all...a name is what you make of it isn't it?
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Trogdor
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posted July 16, 2007 09:06 AM |
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I've never had racist names given to me, but in some places I could still expect it.
Sometimes the only way to abuse a race is to abuse your own. Rednecks and African American gangstas and pimps have been doing it for years. The latter is better represented by their rap music.
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bixie
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posted July 16, 2007 10:15 AM |
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racism has moved from being against black people to against muslims.
in britian, in the 70's, the police were quite xenophobic, and did "Stop&search" on every young black guy there. the first suspect that they tried to arrest was always black. the british media didn't help, often portraying black people as the bad guys ("Love thy neighbour" was a particular program that went tits up). the police even tried to close off the nottinghill carnival in 1976 (big carribean themed carnival on the last day of august around the area of nottinghill in london). this lead to the notting hill riots, which basically told the police "Back off!" which they did, and even started recruiting black policemen onto the force.
the main racism problem is now police are doing more "stop&search" on muslim guy's.
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GenieLord
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posted July 16, 2007 12:36 PM |
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Naturally, people like themselves. They like who they are. This why poeple like their kind of people. White people prefer white people rather than black people.
Some researches show that people also trust their kind of people, which is obvious, becuase everyone sees himself as the most trustable person.
How it develops?
1. When people are in mixed population, they will prefer their kind of people (from the reasons above), but how does it lead to hate?
2. This kind of situation leads to a division of the population to groups, when all the people of their kind unite, and all the people from the other kind unite.
3. Then, a tension will be created, between the groups.
4. The tension will make people to blame people of the other groups in their own trubles.
5. That leads slowly to hate, when everyone is sure the others do bad for him.
6. In this kind of case, the stronger side will take control on the weaker side. If the forces are even, no side will be able to take control of the other, and a war will start. If the goverment doesn't want a war to start, things will stay open, and both sides will do damage by other ways, like assassinations, fights, spoiling private property, etc.
I will analyze two famous conflicts I know well, and will explain the how the occurrences developed, from living side-by-side to hate.
Jews in Germany:
(they were in most of Eroup, but I'll focus Germany)
1. The Jews were like every other person in Germany, except of their different religion. They prefered to be with other Jews, and the Germans prefered themselves, as well.
2. The Jews lived in small communities of Jews, and the Germans with themselves.
3. There's tension. The Germans feel that the Jews are arrogant and don't want connection with their home, Germany.
4. The German blame the Jews for reducing the German nation pride from the German citizens. They blame them for causing damage to the German economy.
5. Anti-Semitic society is developed. The German start hating the Jews. The Jews start hating the Germans, as an obvious reaction.
6. The Germans take control of the Jews. They start to destroy them. As you remember, 6 millions of Jews were killed in the Shoa.
Jews and Palasinians in Israel/Palastinia (before Israel was established, 1900-1948):
1. The Jews and the Palestinians live in Israel, not near each other.
2. The Jews live with themselves and the Palestinians as well. Each groups sees the other one as dangerous.
3. There's a lot of tension between the Palestinians and the Jews.
4. The Palestinians blame the Jews for taking their land, and the Jews blame the Palestinians for taking their land.
5. Each side starts to hate the other one, that in each group's opinion, shouldn't be here at all.
6. There's war between the arabians and the Jews (1947-1949). The Jews win. Israel was established in the middle of the War, in 1948.
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homam
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posted July 17, 2007 01:41 AM |
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And all we say the same fairytail about racism:
-Me?I 'm not racist at all.But i don't like blackmen,Jewish,Muslims,Christians etc
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Trogdor
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posted July 18, 2007 08:51 AM |
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Quote:
And all we say the same fairytail about racism:
-Me?I 'm not racist at all.But i don't like blackmen,Jewish,Muslims,Christians etc
That's still being racist.
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Aculias
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posted July 18, 2007 09:01 AM |
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Only thing I can not stand are Asian drivers.
I will say it straight up.
They are always a cause of accidents.
They can not drve.
Then they always want your money as if it's our faults.
While we lose our license in the process also 
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william
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posted July 18, 2007 09:05 AM |
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The people that can't drive are the really really old people, and quite frankly, I don't think they should be on the road.
For starters, some can hardly see where they are going, and sometimes I have seen some that are very low in the car, barely able to see the road.
That is the cause of accidents these days, imo, not the Asian Drivers.
And people that can't drive should NOT be on the road for a start.
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posted July 18, 2007 10:05 AM |
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Edited by Minion at 10:05, 18 Jul 2007.
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Right now everyone having a middle eastern look is a member of a terrorist organization! That should qualify as racism.
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Aculias
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posted July 18, 2007 10:17 AM |
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There is a difference between racism & fact buddy.
You have not been around the world long enough yet Willy with a little Tilly
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william
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posted July 19, 2007 08:33 AM |
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You have not been around the world long enough yet Willy with a little Tilly
And how exactly would you know this? 
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Aculias
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posted July 19, 2007 08:39 AM |
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I am not going to get at it lol.
All it will do is lead added accusations which will be false.
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midoent
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posted July 21, 2007 08:26 AM |
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define what you guys understand as racism.
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GothCowboy
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posted July 21, 2007 05:43 PM |
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Now i found this posted in the bulletins of Myspace i thought this would add to the discussion, and is what i have been saying for years. i think little bulletin says alot about our society.
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"I'm not racist but its true"
Body: You call me, "redneck", "hillbilly", "slaker", "Cracker", "Honkey", "Whitey", "Gringo" "albino " and you think it's OK.
...But when I call you porch monkey, coon,jiggaboo, Kike, sand snow, rag head ,Towelhead, WOP, diego, kraut, spooks, paki, beaner, wetback, spik, polock, Camel Jockey, Jap, Gook, slant eyes or Chink you call me a racist.
-You say that whites commit a lot of violence against you, so why are the ghettos the most dangerous places to live?
-You have the United Negro College Fund.
-You have Martin Luther King Day.
-You have Black History Month.
-You have Cesar Chavez Day.
-You have Yom Hashoah
-You have Ma'uled Al-Nabi
-You have the NAACP.
-You have BET.
-If we had WET(white entertainment television) ...we'd be racist.
-If we had a White Pride Day... you would call us racist.
-If we had white history month... we'd be racist.
-If we had an organization for only whites to "advance" our lives... we'd be racist.
-If we had a college fund that only gave white students scholarships...you know we'd be racist.
-In the Million Man March, you believed that you were marching for your race and rights. If we marched for our race and rights...you would call us racist.
-Did you know that some high school students decided to make a club for only the white students because the other ethnicities had them... they all got sent to court for being racist but the african-american, Latino, and Asia clubs were not even questioned.
-You are proud to be black, brown, yellow and orange, and you're not afraid to announce it. But when we announce our white pride, you call us racists.
I am white.
I am proud.
But, you call me a racist.
Why is it that only whites can be racists?
Now watch, I'll be a racist for posting this
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i truely wish i had been the one to have written this
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Geny
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posted July 21, 2007 08:52 PM |
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While it does have a valid point, it is grossly exaggerated.
I don't know what is a "black history month", but I do know what is "Yom Hashoah" (Holocaust Day). The reason there is Yom Hashoa and no equivalent to it for white non-Jewish folk (sounds awful, why do we even need to make that separation? ) is because 6 million of white non-Jewish folk weren't slaughtered like animals. Same thing goes for remembering the slavery. It's meant to keep history from repeating itself no matter who the victim will be next time.
About the funding bonuses etc. that's the part that has a point. In some places that is needed just because some ethnic groups may be very weak financially and should be supported. In places where those ethnic groups are no different from others this is really unjustified imo.
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Setitetart
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posted July 21, 2007 09:57 PM |
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While it does have a valid point, it is grossly exaggerated.
I don't know what is a "black history month", but I do know what is "Yom Hashoah" (Holocaust Day). The reason there is Yom Hashoa and no equivalent to it for white non-Jewish folk (sounds awful, why do we even need to make that separation?) is because 6 million of white non-Jewish folk weren't slaughtered like animals. Same thing goes for remembering the slavery. It's meant to keep history from repeating itself no matter who the victim will be next time.
About the funding bonuses etc. that's the part that has a point. In some places that is needed just because some ethnic groups may be very weak financially and should be supported. In places where those ethnic groups are no different from others this is really unjustified imo.
Believe it or not I find GC's input very valid.
"Black History Month is a remembrance of important people and events in African American history. It is celebrated annually in the United States and Canada in the month of February, while in the UK it is held in the month of October."
I dont know about anywhere else, but out here in SD, the would-be minorities have all the breaks while white families, both single parent and families with BOTh parents that work) struggle just above the poverty line as the gap between the "have's" and the "have not's" widens...here in the US the middle class people are becoming non-existant.
People that come here from other countries have assess to new, if not next to new housing, their education practically paid for them, they get government assistance without issues and if that wasn't enough, I dont even weant to get into how many of them I see driving brand new cars. They definitely get breaks.
It had bothered me so much at one point that I asked WHY they are able to get so much when families that were born here and work like dogs...live paycheck to paycheck and don't have all of those "perks".
The answer given to me by a government assistance worker:
"That is just the way it is nowadays."
Nice.
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Geny
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posted July 21, 2007 10:08 PM |
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Like I said - the financial part is true.
There is a term for this, but I don't the right word in English. In Hebrew it's called a "fixing favoritism" or something like that. Basically it means that some groups get more than the others because they were treated badly in the past and need help to get back on track. HOWEVER, when they reach the level of other around them the perks should seize.
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