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Thread: Warcraft 3 - What's the Best Race? This thread is 6 pages long: 1 2 3 4 5 6 · «PREV / NEXT»
Lich_King
Lich_King


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posted September 12, 2004 11:28 PM

Unless I wrote that, while sleeping... Since I don't talk in that manner you described... And yes Orcs are really great race.. just.. I don't like it...
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RedSoxFan3
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posted September 13, 2004 12:11 AM

Well why not explain what makes the orcs so good if you are so sure of yourself?
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TheRealDeal
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posted September 13, 2004 07:17 AM

Thats easy.

Where do we start? I think i'm going to start with units.

The grunt is a good unit in all parts of the game. The headhunter as a berserker is a great unit, the Demolisher is the best siege unit in the game(along with mortar)

Thats just Tier 1. I like tier 2 the best.

Kodobeast: Can swalloa units whole(even tauren, knights, aboms, bears.. etc) Gives a aura that makes you damage more, now this is nifty.

Raiders: Ever heard of ensnare? 5-6 raiders and when your enemy is fleeing, youll get a few units or a hero.

Wywerns: Do i even have to explain? These units rock, even against fiends!(If you have a FS that is )

Batriders: LMAO .. These sick beasts are pure delight, if you see an enemy go all air.. start spawning these

And our spellcasters? Hmm.

Shaman: LightningShield + Bloodlust is GREAT

Witchdocters: These are best VS noobs, or if you have some strat that needs a few of these(but always have 1-2, just for the spirit ward)

But i never go Spellcasters vs human..

Tauren .. Great unit.. is seriously lovely.. great tank unit.

Spiritwalker: I only use this spellcaster if i have a lot of tauren.

So EVERY unit is good. Undead can't brag about that.

Heroes:
Blademaster: Hero Killer Deluxe. Causer of Confusion.
Farseer: Wolves/Lightning = .
Shadow Hunter: Healing + Hex + Wards. Only good skills? What to choose?
Tauren Chieftain: Great Aura, AoE, stun-AoE, reincarnation.. Nice

These are the units and Heroes.. Everything rux in its own way. I know some of the units here have weaknesses.. but so does units for the other races.

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gorman
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posted September 13, 2004 11:37 PM

Firstly I'd like to thank Lich_King for telling RD to lower his ignorance in a much nicer way than I would have. Secondly I'm goin to list my favortie race and would appreciate it even more if I wasn't insulted by RD callin me a n00b and the other bulogna...

Race: Human

Units:

Peon: First and foremost to a good base. The main reason I like humans is their ability to build buildings alot faster than other races. You can put more than one peon to a building and it'll be up in no time. Also, sometimes as a last ditch effort if needed you can use the call to arms bell to turn them into militia, sometimes that's all you'd need to get an opponent to retreat.

Footmen: Only real unit I know of that can be extrememly effective against ranged units. Yes they move slower but they'll also take less damage.

Rifleman: Just an all around great ranged unit. When the armor and attack get's upgraded they can be quite useful.

Knight: Probably the only really good use for these guys is for dying. Not exactly one of the best ground troops but they're the best Humans will probably ever get.

Gyrocopter: good all around flying machine. Upgrades can damage multiple flying enemy's and bombing can definatly leave some bruises.

Siege Tank: Great unit w/lots of armor for taking out an enemy base's building's

Mortar Team: faster than the tank and probably has a higher attack, they can blow up enemy units and take out trees to clear a path as well.

Priest: good for support, can dispel magic from enemy units, heal friendly units, and use inner fire to increase armor and attack of allied units.

Sorceress: can turn units invisible, polymorph enemy units *have you ever been attacked by a flock of sheep? *, and slow enemy units too.

Spell Breaker: one of my favorite abities is their ability to take control of enemy summoned units. Sure they may bring along a couple of summoned Wolves or even an Infernal but what good is it when they switch sides?

DragonHawk Rider: Shackles, gotta love it against enemy fliers. You can totally disable them, they can't attack or do diddly squat! And their cloud ability makes enemy towers useless!

Gryphon Riders: With their upgraded hammers their attacks splash and hit enemy units near the one they target. They also have a good attack and defense to start out with too.

Heroes
Blood Mage: Well, for starters, he can turn enemy heroes or units ethereal, so you can attack them w/your magic attacks and go pummeling. He can steal mana from enemies that use mana. He can summon a pillar of fire that's useful against buildings and units as well. And he can summon a phoneix which can nearly never die if you use it right.

Archmage: Blizzard, like BM's pillar of fire can rain chunks of rock hard ice that is effective against units and buildings. He can summon buff water elementals to fight for him and protect him as well. His aura helps friendly units regenerate mana alot faster. And his teleport can help in case your town is unexpectedly attacked or an ally needs help.

Paladin: Can heal units by alot more than priests, heal can also damage undead. Aura adds defense to ally's, so they become harder to kill off. Divine shield makes pally invulnerable so he can be the last one standing most of the time. And his ressurection ability can bring dead allies back to life. Can be rather useful if you're fighting a hard battle and both of you loose about half your army and your opponent suddenly finds your full army there again.

Mountain King: Bash, stuns enemy units, sweet! Slam, AoE damage. Storm Bolt, thrown hammer that can deal alot of damage and stun an enemy unit. Good for killin heroes. Avatar, MK just grows and becomes his UBER self. Health goes up and armor increases alot.

So...there ya go. If I missed anything let me know...
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TheRealDeal
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posted September 14, 2004 07:05 AM

Peasent, Not Peon. I can't believe your talking nicely about the gyrocopter :'(

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gorman
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posted September 14, 2004 11:36 PM

Peasant sorry for the mispelling.
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TheRealDeal
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posted September 15, 2004 07:25 AM

We should have a 1on1 tourney some day. and/or a ffa. Just for the fun of it! i Don't care if i lose, we'll do it for the sportsmanship and because we love the game.
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TheRealDeal
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posted September 16, 2004 10:22 PM

I'm sorry that i seem so.. arrogant when it comes to Warcraft.. But it's because there's so many wannabes and lamers out there... people with 28-5 aren't pros in my eyes.. They just abuse. People with 1000-700 are pros in my eyes, and their rating is somewhat lower.

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Asmodean
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posted September 17, 2004 02:58 AM

I don't really play warcraft online with the goal of WIN WIN WIN. Sure it's nice, but I'll admit I'm a total n00b when it comes to the finer point of the game, I cam too late to it and haven't played it enough.
But occasionally I might wanna try out a new tactic, or combo of heroes/units and that's where online is fun for me because you can always find a game. That's the best thing about WC3 imo, it's online playability.

I've just completed the Blood Elves campaign, and it was the most fun campaign I've done so far with the altered units and the Naga creatures.

The Naga should SO be a choosable playable race.

But when I play online I alternate between the Undead and the Humans, because I find it hard to build orc structures or elven structures as quick as I need them, like I said, I suck online, but it doesn't stop my enjoyment of the game.
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drakemaster2
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posted October 18, 2004 05:58 AM

Which species is the best?????

Maybe all, but really, Human is so normal and practical to ply, and Orc is pretty cheap and good, Night Elf, is good sort of like Protoss, and Undead is like Zerg Anyway I admit, they are all the same.
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TheRealDeal
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posted October 18, 2004 07:20 AM

I've said this many times, but i think it fits the best here. Did you just call the undead, Zerg? And the nightelf protoss? When you say something like that, you'd better fess up with a reason.
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Consis
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posted October 18, 2004 07:53 AM

UsWest Realms(online)

If anyone reads this and plays on UsWest realm then we can hook up. That's where I play. My acct = NoLove4You if you want to check my profile or add me to your friends list.

And if you don't play UsWest, oh well.
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doomnezeu
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posted October 18, 2004 12:21 PM

remember kids, the last W3 world championship was won by a dude using orks. Hmmm, that can make me changing sides from my dear humans...
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gorman
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posted October 19, 2004 08:57 AM

Consis, the last time I tried playing online w/you I was completely ignored. You didn't respond or say anything. The last times I tried to arrange a meeting to play with you you were unable, yet, on a couple of those occurances, you'd suddenly pop in. I'd say "hello! Thought you were busy, want to play?" Yet I'd get no response.
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lord_crusader
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posted October 26, 2004 08:49 PM

The best race are...humans

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posted October 27, 2004 01:46 AM

Quote:
Maybe all, but really, Human is so normal and practical to ply, and Orc is pretty cheap and good, Night Elf, is good sort of like Protoss, and Undead is like Zerg Anyway I admit, they are all the same.


I would have to disagree.  The Nightelfs are more like the zerg, since they usually evolve into buildings.  The Undead are more like the Protoss since they summon buildings.  But that's the only way they can be compared to starcraft, in Warcraft the races are different than the ones in starcraft.
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Gunnar
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posted October 27, 2004 03:58 AM

what is the best race?
Iīd say the undead..
but here weīve a problem...īcause YOU(and that is the one with the Blood mage protrait)said that abusing was no good...but if you wanna win, itīs simply the best way(necromanacers!!!)yet if you play for fun... the humans with the BM are just great...
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lord_crusader
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posted October 27, 2004 05:59 AM

forget the blood mage... the other 3 heroes are complemented between them, see...

Paladin. Have his defense aura, cure units, magic shield, and resurrect all monsters... this hero can be considered the blessed and defense one...

Wizard. Have his mana Aura, blizzard, water elementals, and teleport all units... this hero can be considered the magic one...

King of the montain. Have his stun hammer, trow hammer, it on the ground to stun all enemies around it, also the six level spell are awesome, this can be considered like offense one, and strong one...

If you see all these heroes can afront a battle whatever circunstances are... have problem with some damage unit?? use paladin, have problem in a battle and need to run quickly?? or you running low in mana?? use wizard, need a unit that can stop any running creature o hero?? use the stuned hammer of the king of montain...

many people use the combination of the wizard and the blood mage, this strategy is really good... you can kill a lot of units with this...

if you know how to mix all magic creatures of the humans with the migth ones, you can defeat whatever you fight without loses...
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Consis
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posted October 27, 2004 07:05 AM
Edited By: Consis on 20 May 2005

My Clan:

Clan WTF

~As I said before, I play UsWest realms only. Check it out if interested...
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TheRealDeal
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posted October 27, 2004 10:02 PM

Since you said abuse and mentioned Necromancers i just couldn't stop laughing, i really thank you for this, this isn't sarcasm..

Btw Necros are easy to counter, only orc might have a slight problem, SLIGHT(and thats if the orc doesn't know how to use Demos)

I'm rarely playing warcraft now since i got warhammer.

And, thrasing the bloodmage isn't good, since his Siphon mana got buffed he is a god among goats, but your strategy might not need him(i find A LOT OF MANA to be nice though, but who the hell cares..)
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