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mechII
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posted November 01, 2004 01:55 AM |
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Well I play Warcraft 3 alot although lately been having some computer probs... My personal fav race overall is the undead followed by the orcs... Generally If I play by myself ill take undead... This is because I especially like dreadlord,deathknight, and crypt lord combo for heroes and a late game force of abominations,gargoyles,necromancers,a few banshees and a few meat wagons... I find that the necromancer unholy frenzy works extrmely well with abominations if u put 1 or 2 necromancers in same force group as abominations, they can quicky but manually cast unholy frenzy...unholy frenzy seems to more than counter bloodlust as it increases attack speed by 75 percent compared to 40 percent for bloodlust... the dreadlord high level vampiric aura greatly enhances the life of the aboms and the gargoyles while the deathknight increases move speed greatly and life regneration, and crypt lord is basically a super melee unit with special abilities...The banshees would quickly case curse, while meat wagons provide the anti defense tower artillery.. I like necromancers not for the raise dead but for unholy frenzy and cripple... Abominations with unholy frenzy would take on ground melee and gargoyles air melee... I like the orcs and humans in team games, the orcs could provide awesome melee power with taurens,and melee heroes, while shaman cast bloodlust, a kodo beast with aura,a few spirit walkers casting spirit link and a few catapults to destroy buildings and a few withc doctors to place healing wards throught battle... Healing wards go long ways to counter undead healing abilities... I do not like orcs for range support or air units, I especially like humans in the support role in team games where they build archmage,paladin,mountainking, large number of riflemen, a few mortarmen, and a few sorceress and priests to cast slow,inner fire and heal... Rifleman can take a beating and seem to work well with undead or orc melee, they will take down the air units no prob and give strong damage support... Though my fav unit in the game is the druid of claw bear form.... looks very cool and with roar and healing capability is one of the deadliest melee units... I wish the inner fire spell was more damage increase and less armor increase, the paladin devotion aura will give the humans the extra armor they need, while combining it with inner fire doesnt give twice the boost since as armor values get higher the percent damage avoided increase is decreased... In my opinion I feel human's and night elves have a major spellcasting disadvantage, roar cannot counter unholy frenzy or bloodlust, and human and night elf healing seem to be no match to undead healing and even orc healing with healing wards, untill for night elves ya get the keeper of the grove with tranquility that counters healing wards, priests heal too slowly for me and using palading holy light is a pain in battles.. Undead can really kick ass on a team as the melee oriented player, large number of abominations with the dreadlord,deathknight,crypt lord,necromancers,and a few banshees, while a human player could provide
archmage,paladin,mountainking,rifleman,mortar men,sorceress,and a few priests for healing...
So I have to say I prefer undead as single player, but in multiplayer I will do orc, or undead melee oriented with some casters, or human in support role... Seems to work well for me.. I think I gave good support to my reasons, Id like to hear what ya think...
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mechII
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posted November 01, 2004 01:57 AM |
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Oh but the healing wards can be easily countered by dispells lol but they seem to work most games... That's another reason why I generally prefer undead
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TheRealDeal
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posted November 15, 2004 07:08 AM |
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I must admit that i didn't expect to see so many played games from you Consis, Well Done!
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Consis
Honorable
Legendary Hero
Of Ruby
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posted November 15, 2004 08:04 AM |
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Edited By: Consis on 20 May 2005
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Thanks RealDeal,
I've a little over 3000 games and still love the game as much as when I first started playing. Half of my record is wins and the other half is losses. My rank is in the 500's which mirrors my percentage, on or at 50%. I like to stick to experienced gamer tactics, and I enjoy a steady game.
Too bad no one at H.C. plays when I do. I'll simply continue my quest for the Human 1500 icon. I forget who the character's name is, but she's a hottie eh?
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TheRealDeal
Promising
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posted November 15, 2004 05:45 PM |
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Jaina Proudmoore...  ... I'm more a sylvannas man myself 
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LordZXZX
Famous Hero
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posted November 16, 2004 11:23 AM |
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Best race is the Naga!! Naga Witch is great, can slow heroes, tear apart bases, and almost never dies. Naga siren has Cyclone, Frost armor, and Parasite. Those Snakemen can ensnare, and are much better than Raiders. The turtles are real beasts, can destroy bases easily, and can even eat up bigger threats. Coati and snapdragons are all round useful units, one can poison, while the other can abolish. And the Naga royal guard, with all those spells like tidal wave and ice bolt, real power. All can swim, and will give enemies a nasty shock when coming by land. Unfortunately, you can't play my favorite race in normal games.
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Consis
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Of Ruby
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posted December 31, 2004 07:36 PM |
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Saved Replays
Anyone have any good replays? I love watching replays. All you have to do is email the replay to me so I can watch it.
I have a couple of good ones of great and historical come-backs. I don't have any of a lv10 hero though. Those are extremely rare in the random 2v2 arena.
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Sir_Stiven
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banned
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posted January 24, 2005 02:30 AM |
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funny thing...
when people toss in library foobumdeal thinks he is the ambassador of peace and yet here he seems to think his an expert.. tsk tsk.
double standards are no way to go if you wanna start arguing
as for WC3 ive recently started to play it, my first pick would be undead as i like to expand fast and just have to buy 6-7 builders/gold miners helps alot then as you can upg. main building faster.
for heroes i like the healing might one for faster expansion, and then the lich i think it is who provides death and decay spell.
as for units i primarily use spiders, big dead guys and catapults.. occationaly a frostwyrm depending on opponent defence.
as for best rush town i would go with night elves and their huntresses.
is it possible to play WC3 online with the not so very legal verison?
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Consis
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Of Ruby
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posted January 24, 2005 05:53 AM |
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Edited By: Consis on 23 Jan 2005
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LoL Sir_Stiven
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Is it possible to play WC3 online with the not so very legal verison?
I don't think you can but I may be mistaken.
You did the same thing with Diablo2. Fortunately blizzard has an open D2 circuit; plus the game also allows you to link via IP addresses. Are all your games pirated?
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TheRealDeal
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posted January 24, 2005 07:15 AM |
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You actually LIKE death and decay?
Thats like if you say in heroes: "I LOVE wywerns  "
Good choice on the first hero, though.
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Asmodean
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Supreme Hero
Heroine at the weekend.
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posted January 25, 2005 03:48 AM |
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The thing about WC3 is that it's a much more dynamic game than HOMM, so while in a turn based strategy some things will work better than others, in a game like WC3 someone like Stiven using the Death and Decay spell w/ Lich could be a bit more of a challenge than the usual Undead hero squad that you normally see online.
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TheRealDeal
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posted January 26, 2005 07:21 AM |
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I've been playing Warcraft 3x for a long time, and death and decay really isn't that good. I'm not saying it's the worst ultimate in the game, i'm just saying that if you pick the lich, it's normally for the Nova spell.
Most players would agree with me in this, but different strategies take different spells. And theres only a few channeling ultimates i like, anyways.
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Asmodean
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Heroine at the weekend.
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posted January 27, 2005 12:08 PM |
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Stumbled across this.
Another add on for WC3, anyone got it/heard of it? Is it worth getting?
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gorman
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Been around since before 2003
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posted January 29, 2005 09:52 AM |
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Wow, RealDeal still believes he's God at this game eh? I'll just leave now and make no comments on it
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When all else fails... Take notes.... ALL the time... ESPECIALLY when playing D&D.... or Pokemon in my case
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TheRealDeal
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posted January 29, 2005 12:08 PM |
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1: I've never even heard of that Asmodean, so can't help you.
On another note, gorman jump down form your high horse. I actually think Consis might be better than me, he has some ok stats if it's his first aka, then they are very well indeed.
And theres a difference between "thinking your god" and being very confused when people say something that sux, actually rux. It's pretty bad.
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gorman
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posted January 29, 2005 01:33 PM |
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Sure it might suck in your eyes but so what if he likes to use the Lich for it's ultimate? As for this supposed high horse, I'd rather walk on the feet my parents genes gave me. I'm voicing my opinion on that I find it irratating when you claim other ppls strategies suck and your's is the best. So what if there's sucks! They like usin it! You play the game because you enjoy playing it! If you decide to challenge yourself and have some 1,000 / 387 win / loss record well great for ya. And if you claim that you're givin advice there's many nicer ways of going about it than saying, "Your strategy sucks, and this guy does too!"
OoC: sorry, running on no sleepafter about....uh....36+ hours? If the Mods want this deleted let me know
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TheRealDeal
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posted February 08, 2005 03:22 PM |
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I'd like it to stay, since it's nice to hear peoples opinions.
Well, Gorman. Go outside, period.
First of all, HC has shown people it is OKAY to say "you suck!!" etc, it's done EVERYWHERE when talking about Heroes. So wheres the difference here, i'm going to quote Stiven on this:
"It's okay to tell people they suck if they actually do suck"
And the Liches ultimate really does suck. Yeah it's okay to make new strategies, that might go wrong, it's how you find the good ones etc etc.. But if something doesn't work, IT DOESN'T WORK! Thats like going all melee land units against air, wiahoo? Lich is normally used as a part of the Nuke Team, and that is NOT because of it's ultimate what so ever. Thats like using mountain king for Bash, or Farseer for Farsight, or POTM for the owl shizz. Somethings just aren't that good, and thats final. The same thing goes for Heroes, not all magics can be used well, some magics just aren't that good!
Besides, you tell me that i could say things a nicer way, but look at how you adress me, it isn't really like you are that polite yourself, now is it?
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Asmodean
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Supreme Hero
Heroine at the weekend.
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posted February 09, 2005 02:57 AM |
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modhat.......
Contrary to Real Deal's post, here at HC it is NOT ok to say 'You suck!'
That dear friends, is what we call an 'insult'.
It is ok to say that a certain tactic is poor or not feasible, and if you feel really strongly about it - 'it sucks'.
But let's not get personal people. And also - if you can point out a better way, why not do it.
Real Deal did address this in his post, and explained it quite well - but we probably coulda done it without the confrontational attitude  [/modhat]
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Consis
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Legendary Hero
Of Ruby
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posted February 09, 2005 03:31 AM |
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Minor Note:
I was thinking about the times when I used to post in the Tournament of Honor. I think it's great that Asmodean keeps this forum in check. But a word of wisdom if you don't like being verbally attacked: "Don't post in the Tournament of Honor forum". They don't moderate as well as Asmodean does. In fact, I doubt they even care. I've seen swear words, blatant personal attacks, and more in that trashy forum. And even the experienced players get called a "noob" and told that "U-Suck". I'm simply glad Asmodean is such a good moderator.
Now that my minor note is finished, I should like to agree with TheRealDeal. Although the lich hero is the best graphic representation of this fictional uber-monster I've ever seen online anywhere, I must admit that his death and decay lv6 ability is mostly only good when used against fully teched Human buildings. They have so many hitpoints that his specialty is the best when being forced to use the death-match farm-hunt strategy. Otherwise his special simply mucks things up. It's too big, hurts your own troops, and takes way too long finish casting.
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RedSoxFan3
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posted February 15, 2005 10:42 AM |
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On a side note
Umm... I don't think quoting Stiven on diplomatic relations is the best way to win an arguement.
Here's an example...
Sir Stiven:Quote:
foobums
See what I mean RealDeal?
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