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Heroes Community > Tournament of Honor > Thread: Hydra and Cahmpion
Thread: Hydra and Cahmpion
Daddy
Daddy


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and why not.
posted September 10, 2004 01:20 PM

Hydra and Cahmpion

Hya!

I allways wondered, Is there any reason why one should choose Hydra or Champion other than style or not-mainstream-behaviour?
I like them both and would like to use them efficiently - but, well, the comparision to angels and Bdrags seems just so unfair...
Whutcha think?

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balcough_dragons


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posted September 10, 2004 04:38 PM

on the map cold hearted made bye laelth
and your life best choice is champs because there is no resourses but ore and wood
and hydras are a good choice on almost any map but not again order
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Daddy
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posted September 10, 2004 05:44 PM

Quote:
on the map cold hearted made bye laelth
and your life best choice is champs because there is no resourses but ore and wood
and hydras are a good choice on almost any map but not again order
Does this mean that this choices are best on "cold hearted" or everytime?^^
OK, I wopuld prefer hydra, even only for cost and growth^^ - Well, I am about to play a game with Champions - this 4 growth looks nice hehe

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Arangar
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posted September 10, 2004 07:16 PM

The problem with champions is the easy access to quicksand &/or water eles

Slow/fatigue/teleport can also be nasty.

And think about what you're losing, angels & resurrect, faster adv. map movement..

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balcough_dragons


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posted September 11, 2004 04:54 AM

if there is no resources or path i would take champs i think because you must get stables
that right there make up for movement from angels
champs first strike and charge is great but must protect them well only 150 hp
cheap as hell tho

hydras can be made anytime now with mod really because blacks take forever
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posted September 11, 2004 08:56 AM
Edited By: csarmi on 11 Sep 2004

I would take Hydras in Equi anytime. Maybe against order even - what is the particular problem with that? A well timed Hypnotize? Teleport away?

Hydras look better than BD's and much easier/faster to build.

As for Champions, the problem is getting all those resources. Dunno, but for me it has always seemed easier to build Angels.

Champions are highly deadly (they do an insane damage if well used, can win fights alone) and are at least helpful in map clearing, but Angels seem to do that better (resurrection is huge).

I think I would choose them under certain consequences - anytime.

As for slow, and quicksand, those spells can be countered, of course timing is important, speed close to hero helps here.

What's so very wrong about Quicksand cast against your Champions? There seems to be something that one of us do not know.

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posted September 11, 2004 04:00 PM

Quote:
What's so very wrong about Quicksand cast against your Champions? There seems to be something that one of us do not know.
maybe they travel around it to avopis it and then get more dmg?

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balcough_dragons


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posted September 11, 2004 04:35 PM

a gm druid level 12 can cast like 40 feet of quik sand all the way around your champs

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posted September 11, 2004 06:49 PM

Beware ... another myth revealed ...

flight/displacement work wonders, not speaking about teleport, cause that's a high-level spells and might not be available
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csarmi
csarmi


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posted September 11, 2004 07:44 PM

Yet another Myth revealed:

SPOILER! SPOILER! SPOILER!
SPOILER! SPOILER! SPOILER!
SPOILER! SPOILER! SPOILER!


There is a level 1 nature spell called Terrain Walk. Try it!

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Daddy
Daddy


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posted September 11, 2004 07:46 PM

oh - it works with quicksand?  nice
I have never considered quicksand as a good spell - is that wrong?

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csarmi
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posted September 11, 2004 08:09 PM

Quicksand is a great spell against the AI and often useful against human opponents, especially if they do not know how to counter it. It's one of the game-breaking spells (makes you able to kill any land-based army with shooters/poison).

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Daddy
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posted September 11, 2004 09:16 PM

hmm sounds good - I will try it in my next game.
thx for giving me a bit more knowledge of those things I once considered crappy^^

I guess there are many underrated things, huh?^^

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