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Heroes Community > Library of Enlightenment > Thread: Which of these do you choose before a game of HOMM3?
Thread: Which of these do you choose before a game of HOMM3? This thread is 3 pages long: 1 2 3 · «PREV / NEXT»
KingofMinota...
KingofMinotaurs


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Ruling the minotaurs below
posted September 29, 2004 09:46 PM

For me it all depends on which castle I pick. If the castle's starting resource is one of the rarer resources, (merc.,crys.,sulf.,gems) then I'll pick resource. If it starts out with the common ones (wood & ore) then I'll choose artifact.
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d00mhammer
d00mhammer

Tavern Dweller
posted October 01, 2004 01:59 PM

Well if you're playing on the only difficulty I play on ( Impossible ) then you should always choose gold because most maps don't have gold in the first turn reach of the hero's movement. What good does choosing resources do anyway, wood and ore are easy to get because a wood mill and ore pit are like always right by your town, and if it's sulfer, gems, crystals, or mercury... they do you no good for awhile since the first buildings you will be buying are gold, ore, or wood based. Besides, you have to spend money to make money
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Jebus
Jebus


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TheJester akaJeebs akaJebfoo
posted October 20, 2004 10:40 PM

Really interesting ready your replies!!!

Playing AI I've become a hoarder of artifacts and would usualy take them without hesitating!!  It's refreshing reading other people's strategies and why..


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Conan
Conan


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posted October 21, 2004 12:19 AM

If I play anything else than impossible, I take artifact. But on impossible, as is the games I've been playing nowadays, I take gold as it's a huge advantage if the map does not favor you.
But I am curious for the question that was not answered... on impossible, do you go for 2 heros, a creature building or town hall first?
I personnaly go for another Hero, but I could understand someone going for a creature building. I could not understand, though, someone going for town hall as soon as possible.
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Fofa
Fofa


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Famous? Me?!
posted January 15, 2006 06:16 AM

I always pick resource. That's really helped me out at the start.

My brother always picks artifact.
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maretti
maretti


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Supreme Hero
posted January 15, 2006 10:54 AM

Most online games are played on 130%. In such games I normally pick art. You have the chance to get necless of swiftness, spirit of oppression, badge of courage, 2 dragon rings, health ring and about 10 more usefull arts. That chance is normally much better than picking gold or res.
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CoCoDemon
CoCoDemon


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The pirate of the Baltic sea
posted January 15, 2006 10:56 AM

It all depends on the template... Well most of time i play balance so I pick resource  =) I fit would be jebus jebus then I think I would pick art...

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maretti
maretti


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Supreme Hero
posted January 15, 2006 11:24 AM

If you play rampart or stronghold it makes sense to pick res on balance but I think art is as good a choice. Playing all other towns I think art is the best choice.

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Aculias
Aculias


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Undefeatable Hero
Pretty Boy Angel Sacraficer
posted January 16, 2006 01:33 PM

I prefer resources, Many maps or randoms I play, resources can be scarces & it sucks when you can build a lv 7 because you miss out by 1-2 resources you need.
Poor map gold could come in handy.
All else is covered then i would get an arty.

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Satanspawn
Satanspawn

Tavern Dweller
posted January 16, 2006 04:22 PM

For this, i would have to assess the town i am in. If i were goin to use Castle, i would pick gold, simply because wood and ore can be found abundantly (dependent on which map you play, of course), but nonetheless unuseful, especially when you finally build the silo in week 2. The only way i would pick an artifact, however, would be a necropolis, because you have a good chance of getting an artifact that boosts necro skill. For any other town that requires anything but wood and ore, i would choose a resource as my bonus
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angelito
angelito


Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
proud father of a princess
posted January 16, 2006 04:37 PM

Quote:
....especially when you finally build the silo in week 2....


Check out the library here about building order in different towns. Those statements like this attract all the noob hunters here on the board...
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Satanspawn
Satanspawn

Tavern Dweller
posted January 16, 2006 04:44 PM
Edited by Satanspawn on 16 Jan 2006

Gotcha, thanks for the point in the right direction.

L0L. Eh... as a matter of fact, can you pull that tread for me? i can't seem to find it....
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angelito
angelito


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Undefeatable Hero
proud father of a princess
posted January 16, 2006 05:24 PM

Just look at the first page, there is a sticky thread called "Library - Table of Contents". Very good and very well sorted thread about nearly all things u can find here in the library. You will need months to read it all....but i bet, u will be enlightened afterwards..
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LegendMaker
LegendMaker


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Famous Hero
The Metal Specialist
posted January 16, 2006 05:39 PM

Unless you are extremely lucky, taking anything but ressources seems pretty useless...

Well, maybe when playing town types with wood/ore at the ressource silo, you can find a little gold more usefull than a little wood/ore.

Playing the Dungeon almost always (and being extremely unlucky more often than not ) I always choose ressources !

I'm much better off with even 3 sulphur than either 500 gold or an Eagle Eye booster, am I not ?

(Remember : I did say I had no luck whatsoever ingame ! )
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tigris
tigris


Supreme Hero
Supreme Noobolator
posted January 16, 2006 10:26 PM
Edited by tigris on 18 Jan 2006

Obviously you aren't used to the richer templates, Legend.
On a template like jebus, where you would hire 7-8 heroes day 1 and send most of them to collect resources(will have about 30-40 of each and 100 or so wood and ore day 7) +3 sulphur wouldn't make much difference would it?
So it's better to take your chances at the spirit of opression or necklace or swiftness than to start with an extra pile of sulfur.
On poorer templates resuorces are a must i agree, but there are some where artifact is still the best choice
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maretti
maretti


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Supreme Hero
posted January 16, 2006 10:58 PM

On exactly what templates are res a must?
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angelito
angelito


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Undefeatable Hero
proud father of a princess
posted January 16, 2006 11:14 PM

If i play average or poor templates (panic or extreme 2) and fortress for example, i chose wood/ore most of the time.....those wyverns cost 15 wood...and if u donīt find your woodmine soon, u get in trouble (happened to me sometimes..)
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Russ
Russ


Promising
Supreme Hero
blah, blah, blah
posted January 17, 2006 04:05 PM

I don't think Stronghold and Rampart are the only towns where you need res on poor templates. You almost have to select res if you are playing Tower (unless you base your strategy on having a few easily accessible grass areas around you). Fortress (wood) and Inferno (mercury) are good choices as well.
If you want to build cavs on week 1, Castle should also consider picking a res. Res would also be nice for Necro (sometimes wood and ore mines come without any extra piles).
Dungeon is the only town where you should pick an art. You don't really need sulphur on week 1 and you must be really unlucky if you don't find any stores or banks by the end of week 2.
Oh, and on 200% it is always gold for me

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Satanspawn
Satanspawn

Tavern Dweller
posted January 17, 2006 05:33 PM

I WOULD have to agree that the template used DOES make a difference, in contrast to what i had said earlier. The fact that you may need to get your lumber yard on the first day (which you almost always do, right?) plays an important role on the hiring of your heroes, terrain and map specs, etc.. Now i see that its not ONLY the type of town that matters, but a lot of other things will come into play as well. Thank you for that enlightenment
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LegendMaker
LegendMaker


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Famous Hero
The Metal Specialist
posted January 18, 2006 06:41 AM
Edited by LegendMaker on 31 Jan 2006

You people are right, here. Even more so than you might think ! Actually, this debate goes way beyond the rather simple (yet interesting) question that started this particular thread, IMHO.

I'm preparing a long post (even by my Legendary overtalkative standards ! Lol ), probably in a brand new thread, to treat this subject thoroughly. I'll add a direct link as soon as it's finished / posted !

(EDIT : Done at last ! Just in time to meet the deadline I'd gave myself (I'm a self-tyrant, remember ) which was the last day of Homm3 at the Zone. Check it out there ! And feel free to add valuable info to help me making it as accurate as possible.)

Thx. Legend.
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