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Svarog
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posted September 25, 2004 01:40 AM |
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Death
I watched a BBC documentary the other day. Among other things they spoke about death. It was an episode about a dying man. Herbie was his name. He had lung cancer for a long time. How can someone prepare for his death?
I dont know how many of you have contemplated about death, but I realized that it's really fascinating for me. Not to be understood wrong, I do not have any ambitions to become a necromancer. But indeed, isnt necroism amazing, capturing your thoughts?
Forgive my phrasing of this post. It'll be questions mostly, but can answers be really given at all?
What is one's personal relation with death? Is there place for fear, anxiety, expectation, ecstasy... What exactly do you people feel when you contemplate about such an essential thing as death? Is it the keylock to each and every's existance, the spring and the end of our life, the strait through which we come back - there?
I'll share my thought a bit later.
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Consis
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posted September 25, 2004 02:42 AM |
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Death
I do not see death as something to fear. I could sit here and write a lengthy post about how much my family needs me, etc, etc... but take for example this community. I have already begun to form relationships, friendships, discords, and lasting memories with a great affinity for tasteful philosophy.
I could die tomorrow and that would be all right with me. I have lived well, laughed much, and gained the respect of my children. I believe that when I die I will leave the world a better place than when I found it. I have never lacked appreciation for the Earth's beauty and I constantly look for the best in others while striving to give the best of myself.
Death may be the end for me, but my spirit and principles will live on in the people I've met and cared for. Life is short, long, bitter, and sweet. Would it be worth living if it were anything less?
My death, as any other person, will help define my life. This is a very real part of our existence, to live and to die. I think it's the end to the body and the beginning of the future.
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Shirastro
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posted September 25, 2004 03:45 AM |
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I'm am too young to start seriusly thinking about death. I hope that in some 30-50 years they will find some DNA fixer or some anty-aging vacine so that i will live forever....and i'm serius about this.
Not couse i'm scared of dying, but couse i'm too curiuse too see what will happen with the world and our future.
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BoogieMan
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posted September 25, 2004 10:00 PM |
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Death
I do not believe in an afterlife, so I see death as the ultimate end for a human being, as well as for any other creature. That's why I have no reason to fear it - for me, there isn't any Great Unknown beyond death. I suppose that the only reason why I may develop an anxiety related to death would be to have grown old and gray without accomplishing anything in my life, without leaving something behind, without making a difference, either on a concrete level, or on a spiritual level.
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Consis
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posted September 25, 2004 10:38 PM |
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Edited By: Consis on 25 Sep 2004
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BoogieMan
I completely agree with every word of your post. I feel exactly the same way.
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Lich_King
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posted September 25, 2004 11:02 PM |
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As there is a theory that Human being (as well as the other creature with highly developed neurosystem) consists of 3 elementals: Body, Mind and Spirit (MM uses exact theory). Death is a cycle, a process when nature cleans and repairs itself. Like a huge organism, we can all think that we are cells and work for that organism... However humans sometimes become more like cancer to that organism... However, the main difference btw destructor human and cancer cell is that human being will eventually die. And as we all know cancer cells (if supported by oxygen and materials) can live forever.
As for Death itself... I do believe in soul, and thus I believe that soul is eternal. So death only takes our body and part of our mind. I can't be sure about mind and its impact to our afterlife (or eternal torment if you stay here in other plane of existence). And what about body? It is just a biomachine, a machine which carries our soul and helps to develop our mind.
After all, we are not different from other life form here, would that be a mammal or a battery. We are born to reproduce and die. That's our biological and physical purpose of existence. That is purpose of body. And soul with mind might have other purposes...
You might say, that should do not exist, and you might disagree with my theory. I can only say, that it is not only a theory, and neither I, nor anyone of you can tell how exactly everything is... But someday, we will know what are we and what was our purpose.
Sad, but that secret we will take with us forever...
(uhmmm... and I wrote that? LOL... My human side took over lich side... NOT GOOD I say...)
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Trogdor
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posted September 26, 2004 01:43 PM |
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What'll all know about death?
The reaper?
Death, it happens to us all, but how it happens we may not know (except the smokers, who know they'll have rotting lungs). I like to think death is a bad thing. When it happens to me I hope in my next life to be another human being.
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"Through the power of the dollar you can communicate with the dead." - Artu
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Consis
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posted September 26, 2004 05:07 PM |
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Trogdor,
You're right and....I wish I do as well. I don't know what will happen when we die. Somehow I see wisdom in your words. I personally feel akin to what you speak of. It comforts me in some small way that I donot understand.
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Xervis
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posted September 27, 2004 08:57 AM |
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to me, death just just one of those things that I know is coming, you can't stop it no matetr how hard to try, and you have to make peace with the fact that, yes, you are going to die, otherwise it'll just eat away at you. personally, i do not fear death, i just dont like the idea of getting old and useless, unable to do the things i love to do. having had a brush with death(anyone whos ever been hit by a car i'm sure can relate), i've come to this realize this reality.
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Svarog
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posted September 28, 2004 12:46 AM |
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I’m kind of surprised to see so many people appeased with death, almost serene. Gosh, I’m young and I really don’t want to die. I mean, I really don’t. Maybe, as you say, when I’m all gray and with one leg in the grave already, I wont be so enthusiastic for life, and will be just as calm as you’re now, but I simply cant predict how I’ll feel then.
Imagine you go out tomorrow, and a car hits you. And you’re gone. No thoughts, no world for you, no nothing. For the time being, I don’t feel I’ve accomplished a lot in life, and this scenario scares the hell out of me. I’m not afraid by the act of dying itself, but what comes after. Nothing. I lose everything. Actually the “I” is the one that is lost forever. With it, all of my experience and mental baggage is also dissolved in thin air.
Is it possible that anyone can take such a “change” so lightly? I mean, come on people, this is not whether your favorite TV show will cease broadcasting, or about the War in Iraq or something. Imagine it happens tomorrow.
I realize death is natural, but as egoistic as it sounds, I don’t see anything natural in me dying one day. And at the same time, due to my atheism, I cant find consolation in my believes about what follows my death. Problem is I don’t have any.
I may come across as really paranoid, but honestly I almost never think about this, and just recently when I did, I figured its really strange people don’t pay much attention to death. Maybe subconsciously they are afraid. And maybe that’s a good thing.
Isn’t death fascinating?
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Shirastro
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posted September 28, 2004 01:28 AM |
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Thats why men invented religion.
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Trogdor
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posted September 30, 2004 01:07 PM |
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Thats why men invented religion.
That is why many people prefer the old religions. That the new religions predict a mass suicide.
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Orion
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posted October 01, 2004 03:04 AM |
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im 18 i dont fear death
but so far i have done nothing noteworthy i my life
so i would hate to die soon.
I am also to curious to ever be eager to die after all who no what wonders the next year may bring.
but at the same time death is an experiece and one you only get to have in all its finality once so i dont want to die in my sleep i want to be concious to enjoy the last thing that will ever happen to me
I am also not religious so i see no reason to fear death after all we all die it leaves room for our children to grow why wish for immortality when by having endless life you would deny a true life to your children after all who ants there parents at 9000 still on the back about finding a job etc
if you become immortal forsaking death then you also forsake a part of your humanity
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Though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death,
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pandora
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posted October 01, 2004 04:29 AM |
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I never gave death much thought until I had my first child, then I realized that my end was something I should actually consider. I find that my fear doesn't actually come from the thoughts of how I will die, or what will come after - but my fear is for when I die and what will become of my children.
The Mortality thoughts started really gnawing at me when I hit 30, in a few months I'll be 31 so hopefully they'll stop then  I find I think of silly things like if I die, how will my husband ever find his car keys? And I worry of course that i will leave my children before I've taught them everything I feel they need to know. That's the scary part of Death for me - not so much that I've gone, but i worry about the people I won't be around to take care of anymore.
I'm hoping I die old enough to see grandchildren and know that the people I love will be fine without me - but not so old that I don't undertand that I'm still living.
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TheRealDeal
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posted January 11, 2005 10:28 PM |
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Death!?
I saw this and i find this pretty interesting, normally i wouldn't reply but so many of you say that "I don't fear death"- Thats BS! And you bloody well know it. If you really thought this over, you would come to reason and fear it like bloody hell.
Life is mostly a sad story, but we have some very nice things that brighten stuff so that we don't think about it, that much. I believe that life here on earth is a place where we learn, where we are prepaired for "whats next", so basicly yes! I believe in an afterlife, of some sort, and i'm looking forwards fo actually seeing what it will be like. I'm in no rush to end life though, i love it here. I don't really see how you can say that you don't fear that, PLUS see it as the ultimate end, there is so many things in life that would be great to see, that you haven't seen, things to hear, that you haven't heard, and so on. Either you are hypocritical, or you are stupid. Maybe just "uninformed", and i hope you will see reason when i'm done with this post.
Then there is also the fact that you really must be a jackass to think like that. I mean, everything that you will leave behind. There is another way you might think, that "the world revolves around you", and thats another point in "being a jackass".
I see no bonus of trying to help you with this, but i must do my part here in life, and if my part demands that i try to show you what life is, then so be it. Saying you don't fear death is just bull... if you didn't fear death, why are you hear? If you really didn't fear it you would have done something that would have killed yourself already, you've got to respect death, and you can't respect death without fearing it, at the least just a little.
I've been dead 3 times now, so i know that life and death is bound together by a very thin line, and i've crossed it my share of times, that might be why i fear it, respect it, and maybe even try to avoid it. Like every teenager i've "thought" of ending my life, but like most i haven't because of respect and some wits, if the respect wasn't there most people would kill themselves at a pretty young age.
If you don't fear death, you are blindly planning your own suicide.
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THEultimateN...
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posted January 13, 2005 08:31 AM |
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Such an interesting topic. To think dying is one of the great inevitables for all of us. We can't stop it from happening, we can't hide from it, and we can't just wish it to go away. No matter how long it may take it WILL happen. Most people "prepare" for their deaths by writing out their Wills. Some prepare by reserving the plot of ground in a cemetary they enjoy. As a member of law enforcement we've always got the possible chance of someday being shot on our minds. Not a pleasant thought but it can happen. It's almost common to see some of the younger members making out thier wills. I know that I have mine made out in case the inevitable does happen.
My wife doesn't exactly enjoy the thought as much as I do. We do intend on having children later in life when our house is completed and our loans paid off. Should be another six months or so... Anyway, it's a rather unappreciated topic but we do talk about the possibility and what she may do to move on. It's so easy to talk about but when the actual time comes? That may yet be a different story.
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McWilliams
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posted January 13, 2005 09:22 PM |
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Death
Death is inevitable! It is the only thing all religions, great or small, agree on. Spiritually, you can do so much for yourself, that you probably need at least two lives to do them. But physically, you can’t do anything; except sit in an armchair, in front of the fireplace, smoking weed - excuse me, I meant your pipe - waiting for someone or something to put you out of your misery! Or you can do what most of us do: live, more or less, on the edge! What good is a life, if I spend it thinking about my death? I’ll have plenty of time for that after a bite the big one! I will not stand by, and watch time going pass me while I’m thinking about death; and not just in general: my OWN death. Again, I invoke Buddhism: Even if you make mistakes, Buddha will always grant you other lives, in which you will reincarnate, so that, when you will finally leave this damned world, all will be set right!
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"Words like violence/ Break the silence/ Come crashing in/ Into my little world."
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Svarog
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posted January 14, 2005 05:04 AM |
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Even if you make mistakes, Buddha will always grant you other lives, in which you will reincarnate, so that, when you will finally leave this damned world, all will be set right!
Yeah, yeah... if thats the case, tell me what kind of mistakes I should make. the more the merrier.
Someone once said that the only reasonable fear a man can have is fear of death.
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Vadskye91
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posted January 14, 2005 03:29 PM |
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Actually more people fear public speaking than death, go figure. ^_^
Actually, it's all moot if you're a Christian like me. Death is something to be accepted, not feared. Death is simply the next journey, one which we all must take...
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McWilliams
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posted January 14, 2005 08:01 PM |
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Even if you make mistakes, Buddha will always grant you other lives, in which you will reincarnate, so that, when you will finally leave this damned world, all will be set right!
Yeah, yeah... if thats the case, tell me what kind of mistakes I should make. the more the merrier.
Someone once said that the only reasonable fear a man can have is fear of death.
Rubbish! A man can fear anything. Death should be the last thing. Death is unlike any other phobia. You conquer your phobia by facing it, by provoking it, not by accepting. Death is an entirely different matter: I doubt you or anyone else, can stare death in the eye and say that you’re not afraid! No. You’re just like all the others. Pathetic, that’s what you are, by trying to prove that you’re above unimportant things, like dieing. Actually, “you could no longer avoid death, then you could you own shadow”. If you don’t share the view of Buddhism, it’s your call; BUT NEVER MOCK IT. I doubt you’re a self-made man, or even a real man, if you dare to say you have no concern of death. I do not fear death, for it is inevitable; I only fear things that I know I can influence or change, because I don’t always make the right decision. Intelligent and very realistic people admit to having fears; rookies like you are just like golems: apparently indestructible on the outside, but hollow on the inside, ready to fall apart when confronting with any resistance.
You don’t have to prove to me that you don’t fear death, but to yourself. And I have my doubts that you will ever can. Until then, maybe you can do us a pleasure, a think before saying anything!
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