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Kallen
Kallen


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posted October 13, 2004 02:57 PM

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Kallen: The 8 headed monster you are thinking of is a Scylla. They are more oceanic dwellers than Hydras, even though the name Hydra means water snake.


I mean Hyrda, no Scylla.
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apricane


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posted October 13, 2004 06:03 PM

I have done a little research on some of the creatures, this should be interesting. Enchanters by the way, and necromancers are not the work of 3do either, as they appear in D&D as well.

Halberdier and Pikeman: Both from medieval europe. Usually used in front rows of armies.

Griffin: Griffins are majestic creatures. They are mixtures of lions and eagles.

Angel: Spiritual entity in the service of (a) god. In the Hebrew bible, only select 3 angels had names. They were Gabriel, Michael and Satan (!)

Skeleton: Skeletons are the remains of a now dead creature, who have been raised by dark powers, to wander among the living. Skeletons themselves are not evil, but their masters are usually evil, and the act of raising the dead is an evil act. Unlike zombies, skeletons have no flesh on their bodies.

Zombies: Zombies are soulless bodies that serve the will of a sorcerer (or necromancer). Zombies originate from a voodoo cult in the caribbeans.

Wraith: Disembodied ghost of a living person.

Vampire: An undead that rises from the grave at night, to drink the blood of the living in order to stay “alive”. The word "vampire" comes from the Slavic word obyri or obiri, which evolved into the Bulgarian word "vampir". Although sources differ greatly, some say that the Greek word nosophoros (which means "plague-carrier") that evolved into the Old Slavonic word "nosufur-atu" is a synonym for the word "vampire".

Centaur: From greek mythology. Centaurs are the followers of the wine god Dionysus. They were known for their drunkenness, and for carrying of helpless young maidens. Centaurs were known as saggitary in medieval romances.

Dwarf: In myths and folklore, dwarfs are small humanoids, about half the size of a man, who live in caves or in holes under the ground (and sometimes in hollow trees). In norse mythology, the dwarves aided the gods in crafting magical items, such as thors hammer mjollnir.

Elf: Elves were, in norse and teutonic folklore, spirits of the dead who brought fertility. They evolved into supernatural beings shaped somewhat like humans, and would then appear either very beautiful or very ugly (light and dark elves). Danish elves were beautiful beings with hollow backs.

Pegasus: In Greek mythology, Pegasus is the winged horse that was fathered by Poseidon with Medusa. When her head was cut of by the Greek hero Perseus, the horse sprang forth from her pregnant body.

Unicorn: The behaviour of unicorns vary greatly. In the west, they were wild horses with a single long horn at the forehead, untameable. In the orient, they were peaceful creatures, harbingers of good luck. The horn of a unicorn is said to posses healing powers, and in some stories only a virgin maiden can tame a wild unicorn.

Dragons in general: Also known as wyrm, wurm or firedrake. In Babylonian legends, the queen of darkness was portrayed as a many headed dragon, known as Tiamat. Dungeons and Dragons stole this deity for their own pantheon. Western dragons are usually portrayed with wings, while eastern dragons are less hostile and lack the wings. Western dragons are more dinosaur-alike, while eastern dragons appear more like giant snakes.

Basilisk: Mythical king of serpents. The basilisk have appeared in many different forms. Often portrayed as a cockatrice as well, which is a cock with the wings of a bat, and a tongue of a snake. The only way to kill a basilisk is to force it to look into a mirror.

Wyvern: Very similar to dragon, though the wyvern has only 4 limbs. Wyverns usually doesn’t spit flames, though they can be very poisonous.

Hydra: 5-9 headed monster with a very deadly breath. When a head is chopped of a hydra, another one, or even two will grow in its place. The hydra is from greek mythology.

Gremlin: The name "Gremlin", unlike other mythical beings, was first coined somewhere around the 1920s', after the end of World War I, in which the Gremlins were humorously blamed for all the technical malfunctions in airplanes. Female Gremlins would tickle fighter pilots and bombardiers just as their sights were lined up for a good run. Female gremlins were known as fifinellas.

Gargoyles: Creatures who were so hideous that they kept evil at bay.

Golem: From jewish legends. A golem is much like an automaton, who would perform simple tasks for its master, and protect him. They could be brought to life by the power of a formula.

Genie: Also known as Jinns, these creatures only gave away wishes in “Arabian nights”. Otherwise, they were evil creatures. Jinns are fiery spirits, even demons.

Naga: Believed to live in palaces underground. Nagas are divine snake people, protectors of springs and wells. They originate from India, and are still worshipped today.

Giant: Giants appear in many mythologies. In norse mythology, they were the giants of Jotunheim, the greek giants were called Titans, and the irish ones were called Fomorians. Giants existed before the humans and gods, and were the enemy of both. Most giants were big and stupid, but fond of human flesh. Other giants were friendly, and loved children.

Imp: Small demon kept in bottle or ring.

Gog: Magog and Gog are hostile forces that will appear in the last battle against the followers of Christ. They are controlled by satan, and will appear just before the end of the world.

Cerberus: Three headed watch dog to the underworld in greek mythology. It could be lulled to sleep with a lyre.

Demon: Originates from the greek word “daimon” meaning spirits. In ancient times, demons could be both evil and good, but since the influence of Christianity, they have become evil creatures, destroying or tormenting mankind. In D&D demons are chaos aligned.

Devil: Satans attending spirits. In D&D devils are law aligned.

Troglodyte: These creatures are also represented in D&D, which means that neither D&D nor 3do have copyright on them.

Gnolls: Gnolls also appear in D&D.

Medusa: One of the gorgons, who could turn whoever she gazed upon into stone. Medusas hair was turned into snakes as a punishment for laying with Poseidon in Athenas temple. When she was killed, her head was given to Athena, who used it on her Aegis.

Minotaur: A horrible creature from greek mythology. Maidens from athen was let into minotaurs labyrinth to satisfy his hunger. Minotaur was the child of a white bull, rising from sea and Pasipha, Minos’ wife.

Manticore: A monstrous creature who inhabits the forests of Asia. Manticores devour everything on a person, even their bones.

Goblin: A more evil and sinister version of Gnomes. Goblins play tricks on humans that can be dangerous. They originate from France, but stories from goblins can be heard throughout Europe. Hobgoblin is thought to be an abbreviation of 'Robin Goblin', the name Druids gave to the first goblins when they entered Britain.

Orc: A sea monster who devour men and women. It was a huge creature armed with teeth. The version most people know of Orcs (big smelly evil ones) comes from tolkiens books. Other myths and stories gives the impression that orcs are creatures with pig heads and human bodies.

Ogre: Creatures who live on human flesh. They are bigger and broader than humans, but smaller than giants.

Roc: Birds so big that they can carry away elephants for food. Many tales from “Arabian nights” have rocs in them, and marco polo saw one of these impressive birds on his travels as well.

Thunderbird: Originates from native American folklore. The thunderbird was a benevolent nature deity.

Cyclop: Giant beings with a single large eye. They were strong and stubborn, and abrubt of emotion.

Behemoth: In the old testament, behemoth is the name for a very large animal. Later, behemoths were identified with satan.

Pixie: Small mischievous people from England.

Fairy: Fairies bestowed gifts upon newborn babies, such as beauty, kindness etc. In the following centuries, they expanded their meddling in human affairs. They can not always be seen by humans.

Sprite: A sprite is a friendly fairy connected to the element water. The sprites changes the colours of the leaves in autumn, and play with the nymphs and butterflies.

Other creatures that would be of interest to the homm games could be one of these..

Chimera: Monster with the head of a lion, the body of a she-goat and the tail of a dragon. Chimeras often have multiple heads. It terrorized Asia Minor.

Cockatrice: Read about basilisk.

Dinosaur: Many types.

Dire Animals: Larger and more intimidating versions of animals.

Dryad: Female tree spirits from greek mythology. Dryads living in trees are called hamadryads. The dryads lives with the trees: if the tree dies, then she dies with it.

Ghoul: In muslim folklore, the ghoul is a demon from the desert able to take the shape of animals. It robs graves and live in graveyards. Also, Ghouls feed on the flesh of the dead, or the flesh of young children.

Hag: The hag is originally a fairy from the british isles. She is the personification of winter. As the seasons change, so does the hag. She becomes more beautiful in the summer.

Hippogrif: Half horse and griffin. These legendary animals were also a symbol of love.

Kobold: In teutonic folklore, kobolds are spirits who dwell in mines and likes to torment humans. They are not necessarily evil.

Incubus and Succubus: Male and female demon who visits their victims at night and have sex with them.

Nymph: Greek spirits of nature. They were minor deities as well. There are many types of nymphs; Dryads (forests), Naiads (springs and rivers), Nereid (the Mediterranean), Oceanids (the sea) and Oreads (mountains), Limoniads (meadows), Limniads (lakes, marshes and swamps) and Napaea (valleys).

Satyr: Male counterpart of the nymphs.

Sphinx: In ancient Assyrian myths, sphinx’s usually appears as guardian of temple entrances. In Greece they were demons of death destruction and bad luck. In Egypt, they were the symbol of the king as the sun god. A sphinx is rumoured to ask riddles to those, wishing to trespass its territory.

Troll: Trolls are ugly, malicious creatures. They are enemies of humans, and much bigger and stronger than humans. Trolls will turn to stone if exposed to sunlight. Trolls loves human flesh. In some stories, though very few ones, they appear as less ugly, friendly creatures.

Will o wisp: Balls of light, thought to lead travellers into their deaths in swamps and marshes.

Banshee: Female spirits from Britain. Some myths declare that banshees are women who died giving birth to their babies. Banshees are known for their horrible screams.

Catoblepas: Nasty large creatures that lives in swamps. Catoblepas appears in some myths as bulls with scales.

Sylph: Elemental, soulless fairy that inhabit the air.



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Kallen
Kallen


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posted October 13, 2004 06:39 PM

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and would then appear either very beautiful or very ugly (light and dark elves).

Even Dark elf was beautiful
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apricane
apricane


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posted October 13, 2004 08:58 PM

Not according to the source i have kallen. You are confusing them with the drow.
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KingofMinotaurs


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Ruling the minotaurs below
posted October 13, 2004 10:26 PM

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Genie: Also known as Jinns, these creatures only gave away wishes in “Arabian nights”. Otherwise, they were evil creatures. Jinns are fiery spirits, even demons.


*Are you sure genies/jinns are fiery spirits/demons? I always thought they were spirits bound to the master, not neccessarily fiery. I could be wrong though.

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Manticore: A monstrous creature who inhabits the forests of Asia. Manticores devour everything on a person, even their bones.


* Don't forget, it has the head and body of a lion, wings of a bat, and tail of a scorpion. These were very vicious creatures maybe, almost the size of dragons.

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Orc: A sea monster who devour men and women. It was a huge creature armed with teeth. The version most people know of Orcs (big smelly evil ones) comes from tolkiens books. Other myths and stories gives the impression that orcs are creatures with pig heads and human bodies.
*A sea monster?? Where did you get that information? I think an orc is more or less a barbaric creature that has goblin-like qualities. It looks like a goblin and *could* I guess have pig-like features. But where did you get the info. that an orc is a sea monster?



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Chimera: Monster with the head of a lion, the body of a she-goat and the tail of a dragon. Chimeras often have multiple heads. It terrorized Asia Minor.


* I think a chimera is said/believed to have 3 heads. One representing a lion, another representing a snake, and another representing an eagle.

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Catoblepas: Nasty large creatures that lives in swamps. Catoblepas appears in some myths as bulls with scales.


*I think a catoblepas is some kind of reptile/amphibious thing that crawls or slithers around slowly, and if you are caught in its gaze, you would be turned to stone.

Another interesting creature from greek mythology are the sirens. They could/are interpreted in two different ways. First they are said to be not very attractive women whose song is said to lure sailors to them and their doom. Others say that they are sexy, seductive, beautiful women who still use their enchanting songs to lure sailors to their doom.
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Kallen
Kallen


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posted October 14, 2004 12:11 AM

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Genie: Also known as Jinns, these creatures only gave away wishes in “Arabian nights”. Otherwise, they were evil creatures. Jinns are fiery spirits, even demons.


*Are you sure genies/jinns are fiery spirits/demons? I always thought they were spirits bound to the master, not neccessarily fiery. I could be wrong though.

All genies are sons/dauthers of Lucyfer(Iblis), and they a demons/spirits of elementals.

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Manticore: A monstrous creature who inhabits the forests of Asia. Manticores devour everything on a person, even their bones.


* Don't forget, it has the head and body of a lion, wings of a bat, and tail of a scorpion. These were very vicious creatures maybe, almost the size of dragons.

Lion head but Human face and birds wings

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Chimera: Monster with the head of a lion, the body of a she-goat and the tail of a dragon. Chimeras often have multiple heads. It terrorized Asia Minor.


* I think a chimera is said/believed to have 3 heads. One representing a lion, another representing a snake, and another representing an eagle.

Only ONE head(3 head have in D&D).
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Not according to the source i have kallen. You are confusing them with the drow.

All Salfars(elfs) was beautiful even dangerous Leanan Sidhe.
Liosalfars was beautiful and good, they skin and hairs was light.
Svartalfar was also beautiful but they are evil. Skin was dark or black and white hair(Like Drows). (in my source)
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gerdash


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from the Animated Peace
posted October 14, 2004 05:35 AM

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Wight: The spelling is Wight, but I don’t know where the originate from. I have heard of Wraiths, but perhaps Wights are endemic to the Heroes universe.

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There is a drawing of a wight in the book, where it appears much like a more intimidating zombie, and nothing like the ghost like wight we know from homm. Im not saying this is the true version of the wight though, but its evidence that wights are creatures of myth, and not 3dos inventions
tolkien must be the oldest source mentioned so far: after meeting with tom bombadill the hobbits got lost and frodo met a barrow wight.
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Manticore: A monstrous creature who inhabits the forests of Asia. Manticores devour everything on a person, even their bones.

* Don't forget, it has the head and body of a lion, wings of a bat, and tail of a scorpion. These were very vicious creatures maybe, almost the size of dragons.
huh? head of a lion? you must be describing the homm3 manticore. also not quite sure about wings.

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apricane
apricane


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posted October 14, 2004 06:01 PM


*Are you sure genies/jinns are fiery spirits/demons? I always thought they were spirits bound to the master, not neccessarily fiery. I could be wrong though.

The sources vary on this point. There is no facit list in mythology it seems.

* Don't forget, it has the head and body of a lion, wings of a bat, and tail of a scorpion. These were very vicious creatures maybe, almost the size of dragons.

I havent described all creatures appearance, i guess most people know their appearance from the games

*A sea monster?? Where did you get that information? I think an orc is more or less a barbaric creature that has goblin-like qualities. It looks like a goblin and *could* I guess have pig-like features. But where did you get the info. that an orc is a sea monster?

According to my source, orcs were sea monsters. This information sounds as strange to me as it does to you, but we have to remember that tolkien and j.k. rowling, and other famous fantasy writers got their monsters from somewhere.

* I think a chimera is said/believed to have 3 heads. One representing a lion, another representing a snake, and another representing an eagle.

Kellens answer on this is true. They dont necessarily have 3 heads.

*I think a catoblepas is some kind of reptile/amphibious thing that crawls or slithers around slowly, and if you are caught in its gaze, you would be turned to stone.

The fantasy version of the catoblepas is a big nasty dinosaur like creature, with one yellow eye that turns people into stone. The myths were different though.

Another interesting creature from greek mythology are the sirens. They could/are interpreted in two different ways. First they are said to be not very attractive women whose song is said to lure sailors to them and their doom. Others say that they are sexy, seductive, beautiful women who still use their enchanting songs to lure sailors to their doom.

I believe the sirens are already in game, though not directly as creatures
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KingofMinotaurs


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posted October 14, 2004 10:35 PM

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*A sea monster?? Where did you get that information? I think an orc is more or less a barbaric creature that has goblin-like qualities. It looks like a goblin and *could* I guess have pig-like features. But where did you get the info. that an orc is a sea monster?

According to my source, orcs were sea monsters. This information sounds as strange to me as it does to you, but we have to remember that tolkien and j.k. rowling, and other famous fantasy writers got their monsters from somewhere.


*OK point taken. and if I sound like...a jerk ... I don't mean to. And I'm not trying to be a jerk with this comment like "show me now where you got the info.!" I was just curious because I have never heard of an orc being some kind of sea monster.

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* I think a chimera is said/believed to have 3 heads. One representing a lion, another representing a snake, and another representing an eagle.

Kellens answer on this is true. They dont necessarily have 3 heads.


*OK perhaps I could be mistaken about this

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*I think a catoblepas is some kind of reptile/amphibious thing that crawls or slithers around slowly, and if you are caught in its gaze, you would be turned to stone.

The fantasy version of the catoblepas is a big nasty dinosaur like creature, with one yellow eye that turns people into stone. The myths were different though.


*Oh a DINOSAURish creature? interesting. I just thought it was some kind of slithering thing, but I do agree about the one yellow eye said to turn ppl to stone, as I *did* mention .

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I believe the sirens are already in game, though not directly as creatures

*I didn't say they were in the game, I just thought that they were an interesting mythological creature. Oh, and I was gonna say, they should have put the siren in the game. (if they have already plz tell me .) They should have had the harpy and then upgrade that harpy to a siren. I think that could have made it a little more creative than harpy - harpy hag .
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apricane
apricane


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posted October 15, 2004 09:52 AM

Im not so touchy, ask away ^^

Harpies turning into sirens would be wrong though, Sirens are creatures related to water, while harpies are more or less flying nasty women. I think the sirens in homm3 looks like harpies.. Instead of harpy hags they should include actual Hags, which is an interesting monster in itself (or fairy that is) Though not as a harpy upgrade.

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from the Animated Peace
posted October 15, 2004 02:44 PM
Edited By: gerdash on 18 Oct 2004

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*OK point taken. and if I sound like...a jerk ... I don't mean to. And I'm not trying to be a jerk with this comment like "show me now where you got the info.!" I was just curious because I have never heard of an orc being some kind of sea monster.
lol, so i am a jerk and so are all my colleagues and.. actually a considerable part of world's population who's happy childhood is over and who start to realize the value of bureaucracy, rather than rely on word of e.g. the king of minotaurs who is easily insulted. you know, when someone asks me what the drow are, i can say: kallen in homm forum said that the drow were this and that, etc. and then i can describe what a trustwothy forum the homm forum is, and how devils and fallen angels are not the same.
*lmao*

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apricane


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posted October 15, 2004 06:41 PM

The world of homm is a delightful world indeed ^^
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KingofMinotaurs


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posted October 15, 2004 09:45 PM

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lol, so i am a jerk and so are all my colleagues and.. actually a considerable part of world's population who's happy childhood is over and who start to realize the value of bureaucracy, rather than rely on word of the king of minotaurs who is easily insulted.


lol good point. I am not truly a bad person. I may seem like a jerk when unintelligent people make remarks about something they have no knowledge about, or when unintelligent comments are made, but I am generally a nice guy. Oh bureaucracy... oh boy. What a crazy idea .
But I am SO not gonnna get into that .
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posted October 26, 2004 03:38 PM
Edited by alcibiades at 20:10, 06 Jul 2009.

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Oh bureaucracy... oh boy. What a crazy idea .
i see.. so, your happy childhood is not over yet, is it? even the most simple workers and even those children who go shopping on their own (without their parents) have something to do with bureaucracy.

if i want to say something about some creature, i do like to give info about the source. and i would also like to get it myself, so that i can estimate what point of view it was written from. tolkien's vs folklore orcs are a good example imho.

this makes some people think that i'm a jerk.. interesting..



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