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posted May 26, 2013 09:29 AM |
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I could have sworn that Cor gave you a "Time out" for a week a while back... (during your whole angsty, "I don't post in the OSM anymore" phase) My mistake.
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posted May 26, 2013 10:09 AM |
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Self-inflicted protest in the tradition of a hungerstrike. 
Completely useless - and misguided, of course.
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posted May 26, 2013 10:12 AM |
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The OSM is too fun to stay away from.
Although I notice that the quality of moderation improved after that incident.
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artu

  
      
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posted May 26, 2013 10:56 AM |
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@gnomes
no, i wasnt messing around. if someone changes the subject of his posts when confuted or constantly tries to twist what he says when cornered by logic , i consider the posts spam and call his actions trolling. OSM isnt VW and consistency is expected of you.
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posted May 26, 2013 11:48 AM |
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You do not decide what the OSM is, artu. If a moderator had issues with my posts and found them inapropriate he wouldn't hesitate to express the concerns, I am sure. Your accusations are uncalled for.
I rest my case.
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posted May 26, 2013 12:11 PM |
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Quote: The OSM is too fun to stay away from.
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yeah. real fun.
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artu

  
      
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posted May 26, 2013 12:13 PM |
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Asking why humans couldn't go to space in all those years, first trying to ignore all rational answers, then saying you believe in theistic evolution like it had anything to do with it. Or talking about God not being imaginary yet some people being without imagination but then twisting the subject and claiming you were just talking about people without imagination in general. Or when people discuss something about the book of Luke, keeping on about how OT does not count but NT does as if Luke isn't NT...
Anyway, I thought you were not discussing with me, I'd be much happier if you keep it that way.
Edit: I see you changed your post again, when the original challenged me to show your trolling, now it's about me not being a moderator. I don't have to be one to call your trolling trolling.
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posted May 26, 2013 12:15 PM |
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I won't surrender to blackmail from you, man. If you call me a troll it is my right to defend myself.
I want nothing to do with you, you are not a man I can reason with.
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artu

  
      
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posted May 26, 2013 12:18 PM |
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See trolling again, blackmail... Right...
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posted May 26, 2013 12:19 PM |
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You will just see what you want to see, not what is real, you will always be biased and that is why I refuse to talk to you again because I would be wasting my time.
Good day, sir.
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posted May 26, 2013 04:39 PM |
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posted May 26, 2013 04:43 PM |
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The OSM is almost pointless in itself, I much prefer the chaotic and free posting of the VW. Don't expect me to become a major figure with posts in the OSM because like you said, it is mainly pointless.
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posted May 27, 2013 01:06 AM |
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I object to comments about me in the following post by Salamandre in the Thread: Muslims Causing Trouble? (page 21)
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- I am called a wolf
- I am called a hypocrit
- I am called Stalin
- my viewpoints are misrepresented
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Emm, lol? The wolf is now a goat again? I am too lazy to find where he told being ok with thousand of innocent muslims killed by drones-and many other issues-, and now takes defense only because I told is about religion. The last person I am willing to discuss such things is with an hypocrite who changes from Stalin to Jesus from one thread to another, sorry.
His earlier post about Muslims also seems objectionable to me because it paints Muslims all with a broad brush and in a negative light and no attempt to defend these statements is made. While I am not a Muslim I don't think it is fair to treat any religion like this.
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The average Joe muslim is copulating like a rabbit (religion prohibits contraception), have 8 kids while all 8 will make prison times at different stages of their lives, because the average Joe muslim can't (who can?) supervise all 8 of them, even with huge welfare amounts. Uneducated young generation, ghettoization consequences, lack of jobs, lack of school places and discipline, I believe the average Joe muslim multiplied by millions of Joe muslims is a threat. Different habits and morals values, different goals and priorities will lead to culture shock later or sooner. Is already there.
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posted May 27, 2013 05:17 AM |
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So compared to Elodin, I got off pretty easily from the elitist side of the OSM.
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posted May 27, 2013 09:55 AM |
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I object to the provocative language JJ uses about a Islam in his post on page 22 of the "Muslims Causing Trouble?" thread. He describes the morals as, "stone age morals."
While JJ is certainly entitled to his own beliefs, and unless I am mistaken he holds that there is not such thing as something being morally good OR morally bad because he says morality bad, certainly not in an objective sense, I think it is wrong to describe someone's belief system as having "stone age" morals. He is slurring about 1.6 billion people. The Muslims I've come to know as neighbors and business associates certainly seem like morally upright people to me even if I don't agree with them on some issues.
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posted May 27, 2013 09:59 AM |
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You guys are on a crusade to become pain in the ass or what?
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posted May 27, 2013 10:37 AM |
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No, we're just trying to be reasonable, which more then I can say for the likes of others.
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posted May 27, 2013 10:41 AM |
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No, I am not trying to be a PITA. We were lectured on treating all members and groups members may identify with with respect. I am objecting to instances of that not occurring.
I object to the following statements by JJ that implies I am being dishonest.
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YOU ARE DOING IT AGAIN! Reading, quoting and answering only the half that you want to see.
I also find the post he edited about "stone age" morals to be even more provocative than previously. Saying that religious parents teach their children stone age morals or "morals rooted in the stone age" as he edited it to, is extremely provocative and very disrespectful to persons of every religion.
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If we call this belligerently a "war", then it is fought in our public schools. There may not be a democratic, constitutional way to change this, but we can make laws that force immigrants to learn the language and to send their children to a public school, where the quality of the classes should teach the children alternatives to what they learn from their parents, when it comes to stone age morals [added]that are rooted in the Stone Age; this is true for all religions, mind you, not only for the muslimic one [/added].
I also object to this statement that once again describes the morals taught by religious parents as "rooted in the stone age" and says that they should be "shed" by positive moral alternatives taught in public schools. And cerainly I object to the morals of religious people being said to be less evolved.
This seems to be deliberately extremely provocative language.
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This means, that there is actually no democratic, constitutional way to forbid or steer parental education, but society can offer at least an alternative to those children, by teaching them what the rest of society thinks - a different point of view -, which may or may not allow them later to fit in, voluntarily shedding that morals part that has its roots in the Stone Age. Evolutionary change by offering and teaching positive alternatives.
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posted May 27, 2013 10:45 AM |
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Quote: No, we're just trying to be reasonable
Then you're failing. Badly.
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posted May 27, 2013 10:53 AM |
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Says who? You and your elitist buddies? Unless a moderator complains to me about my posts I'll never retract anything.
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