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The_Gootch
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posted April 24, 2009 08:06 PM

Don't let these clowns get you down Corribus.  Now that bort and Peacemaker, and Binabik don't post with any regularity you're the best read on the OSM.  

Hands down.

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posted April 24, 2009 08:07 PM
Edited by phoenixreborn at 20:09, 24 Apr 2009.

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That's a great list!  Thanks for putting in the effort.

6) NO provocation or aggravaion.
Provocation is unfriendly behavior that causes anger or resentment from others. Aggravation is causing, continuing or increasing irritation or trouble. This includes being a detriment to the peacekeeping of the forums.
Each member is solely responsible for their own conduct - no amount of provocation or aggravation from someone else will justify the action of breaking the rules. Instead of responding to a member who has offended you, alert a moderator about this situation and let them deal with it, keeping you out of trouble.

Corribus should be penalized for provoking me.

And now Gootch called me a clown.  Undoubtedly he didn't even read the original thread and has no pertinent contribution to the discussion.
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posted April 24, 2009 08:21 PM

Guys. If there is such a thing in science as the concept of sound amplication, there is certainly a concept of trouble amplification within sociology too. For this is reaching unspeakable proportions.

Was the offense really that heavy, Corribus? If so, what kind of reparation would you like?

The rest of you guys, I understand many of you came here originally with the intention of helping, but agglomeration in feedback threads is scientifically proven to be the most explosive mixture one could come up with.

Dont we all got homework to do?

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posted April 24, 2009 08:25 PM
Edited by TheDeath at 20:27, 24 Apr 2009.

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In the latter place, there are significant disagreements, but "Why do you hate freedom?" is a clear mark of trolling.
Excuse me, ROFL, that's a clear mark of trolling? How retarded are the people there in GameFAQs?

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They don't trust the individual risk-taker, innovator, and profit-seeker
Right. Tell you what: if those "profit-seekers" had profit without influencing/exploiting/doing SOMETHING to OTHERS or OTHER THINGS, then obviously I would have nothing against them.

As for the 'opportunities', I do not take money out of those who had opportunities -- because they SHOULDN'T HAVE in the first place. At least, if everyone had the same opportunities, only THEN would it be rightfully theirs. Period.

The way I see it, you're a dictator that says "money grants you power to manipulate others/other things and their opportunities or exploit as much as you want." I see dictatorship also in "you are not allowed to trespass in my land!" or "you are not allowed on the Earth, I own it all". That's dictatorship.

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In fact, they remind me of the Big Nurse from One Flew Over the Cookoo's Nest: "It's for your own good, so obey!" Seriously.
Seriously. In case you were referring to me (as I'm pretty sure you included me, at the very least, with a lot of others obviously), you have a serious problem keeping this in your head (what I will explain below again, for the like 100th time). If I hear one more time nonsense like this from you when I point out everytime how dictatorial are your 'private profit-seekers' who 'must be encouraged' and you ignore going back to square one... what's the purpose then?

I'm most definitely not "it's for your own good" or "you're too dumb to see your own good". For example, I am a firm believer in blaming people who do something, not those who do nothing and affect nothing. It's people like you who want to give too much 'freedom' to others -- and the problem here is not freedom per se but that they affect things with their actions, and can be blamed as I have outlined above. (pollution long-term simplest example)

For this reason, I do not "force" people to do 'something', rather I do not allow them to do whatever the damn they please and exploit stuff.

But in this case you're a dictator too: you advocate police. You also don't allow people to build bombs or nukes! See?

You may call this freedom. I call it guilt.
And if GameFAQs consider this trolling, they should step out of their dictatorial regime. The way I see it, it's like "troll = a small percentage who disagree" or "disagree with the mods" at GameFAQs. ROFLMAO!

Tell you what though, in most cases and even YouTube comments, trolls are the MAJORITY. The minority bring up sound arguments. Would you call them trolls?
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angelito
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posted April 24, 2009 08:29 PM

Guys...this is the OSM feedback.

Incredible......
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Cepheus
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posted April 24, 2009 08:35 PM

What exactly do you want from Corribus?  He already apologised profusely for those utterly harmless posts he wrote.  I've made more offtopic posts than those in the past, and I'd be peeved too if someone deleted my posts without any notice.  Why on earth would you target a person for straying from a topic once?

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posted April 24, 2009 08:45 PM

I see that next year's April Fools' set up has started really early.
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The_Gootch
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posted April 24, 2009 10:01 PM

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Undoubtedly he didn't even read the original thread and has no pertinent contribution to the discussion.


I did read the original thread and aside from talking about Heroes V, you've never had a pertinent contribution to any topic.

Do I get my nomination for a -qp now?

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phoenixreborn
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posted April 24, 2009 10:45 PM
Edited by phoenixreborn at 22:51, 24 Apr 2009.

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I did read the original thread and aside from talking about Heroes V, you've never had a pertinent contribution to any topic.

Do I get my nomination for a -qp now?


The fact is Gootch has still made no comment about the thread.  Sidetracking the discussion into qp merits and making personal attacks on me are not contributing to the 'feel good' flavor of the forum.

I am still an active poster in several forums.  You can come in every two or three months and take pot shots at people but to set Corribus up on a pedestal and take pot shots at me when you contribute nothing is illogical.

As far as I'm concerned the COC has been violated several times.  I'm just waiting to see what action or explanation if any will be given by the mods.
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The_Gootch
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posted April 24, 2009 11:11 PM

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The fact is Gootch has still made no comment about the thread.  Sidetracking the discussion into qp merits and making personal attacks on me are not contributing to the 'feel good' flavor of the forum.

I am still an active poster in several forums.  You can come in every two or three months and take pot shots at people but to set Corribus up on a pedestal and take pot shots at me when you contribute nothing is illogical.

As far as I'm concerned the COC has been violated several times.  I'm just waiting to see what action or explanation if any will be given by the mods.


I didn't make a comment about the thread because it didn't interest me.  You say you don't like sidetracking the discussion but you're carping for Corribus to get a -qp for some imagined slight against you.  Who's the one being ridiculous?

Let's see.  Corribus deserves to be put up on a pedestal.  Oftentimes there's little need to make those kinds of comments for the best and the brightest here.  They know it, or they should know it.  But if they're getting shafted I'll go to bat for them.  It's during these times when they might be mulling over whether or not it's worth their time to continue to come here and contribute that I want to make loud and clear they are in fact appreciated.  

Not that it really matters.  I doubt I've ever changed anyone's mind once they've gotten it in their head to move on from this place.  I do it so I won't have to wrestle with my own personal what ifs later on down the line.

And anyone who decides to make pot shots towards other people doesn't have a whole lot to stand on when they start complaining about other people making pot shots in their direction.  That includes the both of us.

And since when did you start getting involved in CoC nonsense?  When did you start acting like a sensitive pony-tailed guy?


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phoenixreborn
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posted April 24, 2009 11:16 PM

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Corribus deserves to be put up on a pedestal.

Why?
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mvassilev
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posted April 24, 2009 11:20 PM

Corribus:
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this just isn't a very friendly environment anymore
Maybe we need a "troll tax".

PR:
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That is a frankly insulting quote. Why don't you name names?
Every political poster except Corribus, Lexxan, Dagoth, and Binabik.

TheDeath:
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How retarded are the people there in GameFAQs?
It's a mark of trolling because the vast majority there do not actually hate freedom. There are disagreements, but hardly anyone would want to destroy it.

As for the rest, you are wrong for the usual reasons. Voluntary exchange =/= exploitation. Unless you feel that you're exploited by the laws of physics.

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For this reason, I do not "force" people to do 'something', rather I do not allow them to do whatever the damn they please and exploit stuff.
"Not doing this is for your own good!"
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posted April 24, 2009 11:26 PM

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And anyone who decides to make pot shots towards other people doesn't have a whole lot to stand on when they start complaining about other people making pot shots in their direction.  That includes the both of us.


You didn't post in the thread in question.  Nothing you've posted here has to do with the thread in question. So you have in no way dealt with the original issue.  That is why concluded that you didn't know why I was making a fuss.  You have only responded to things in this thread.

@Mvass: are you saying that anyone who doesn't agree with you is a dictator?

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The_Gootch
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posted April 24, 2009 11:27 PM

You answer my questions and I'll answer yours.
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phoenixreborn
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posted April 24, 2009 11:37 PM

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You say you don't like sidetracking the discussion but you're carping for Corribus to get a -qp for some imagined slight against you.  Who's the one being ridiculous?

And since when did you start getting involved in CoC nonsense?  When did you start acting like a sensitive pony-tailed guy?


These questions?

I raised a complaint.  Angelito cleaned the thread. End of story.  Is that ridiculous? Corribus decided to make flippant sarcastic comments and keep the argument going.

The COC nonsense has come up before.  Your final question is a pot shot so I won't bother to answer.
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The_Gootch
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posted April 24, 2009 11:49 PM
Edited by The_Gootch at 23:51, 24 Apr 2009.

Given the context, the flippant and sarcastic remarks were well-deserved.  If you can't handle a little verbal sparring, which seems to be the case here, then I dare suggest you might consider your own flippant and sarcastic remarks you make towards others.  I'm not being preachy here.  Really, I'm not.  My point is that since you have historically engaged in such sparring, you should reserve your, "zomg my feelings are hurt please give <insert name> a -qp" for when it really matters.

And as disinterested bystander, I'm here to tell you that this isn't one of those times.

As for why Corribus should be put on a pedestal, it's simple.  He's effin' smart and well-reasoned. And to quote Edward R. Murrow, "He [is] one of those civilized individuals who [does] not insist upon agreement with his political principles as a pre-condition for conversation or friendship."
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phoenixreborn
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posted April 24, 2009 11:58 PM

You're still not acknowledging the original point which was this: beating up on lucky_dwarf, over something that Corribus already understands perfectly well, is not beneficial to anyone.

As for putting him up on a pedestal, sure he writes well, that is just the clothing for his points.  Sometimes I agree with them and sometimes I don't.  Does that make his opinions/references any less valid than say Jolly Joker or The Death who might not have as firm a grasp of the language?
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TheDeath
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posted April 25, 2009 12:00 AM

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It's a mark of trolling because the vast majority there do not actually hate freedom. There are disagreements, but hardly anyone would want to destroy it.

As for the rest, you are wrong for the usual reasons. Voluntary exchange =/= exploitation. Unless you feel that you're exploited by the laws of physics.
Did I say voluntary exchange?
Well maybe depending how you look at it. Is pollution voluntary exchange? Mining what they want too? (just few examples)

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"Not doing this is for your own good!"
Excuse me? When did I say that? Of course it's not going to be for the good of greedy bastards (mostly high profile capitalists), but where the hell did you get that was my intention?

Though more severe, I'm not jailing criminals for "their own good" you know, or preventing them from killing.

Mvass, I'll have to say, you need to learn some comprehension skills. If not for JollyJoker, do it for me (j/k)
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posted April 25, 2009 03:08 AM

PR:
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@Mvass: are you saying that anyone who doesn't agree with you is a dictator?
No.

Gootch:
I agree with you entirely.

TheDeath:
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Did I say voluntary exchange?
You said "exploitation". When you say that, you usually refer to voluntary exchange.

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Is pollution voluntary exchange? Mining what they want too?
Pollution - no, it's an externality. Mining - it depends. The extraction of minerals itself is not exchange at all - whether voluntary or involuntary. It's just someone doing something with their stuff. Buying land is voluntary exchange. Pollution resulting from mining isn't voluntary exchange.

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Excuse me? When did I say that? Of course it's not going to be for the good of greedy bastards (mostly high profile capitalists), but where the hell did you get that was my intention?
I mean, for the average person's good.
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posted April 25, 2009 04:02 AM

Y'know, this thread makes sense once you realize that "feedback" can refer to what happens when you hold a microphone up to a speaker that it's connected to.
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