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Elvin
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posted April 25, 2009 04:14 AM

Totally.
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phoenixreborn
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posted April 25, 2009 05:16 AM
Edited by phoenixreborn at 05:16, 25 Apr 2009.

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you've never had a pertinent contribution to any topic.

Perhaps I've indulged in hyperbole which at it's root has some truth to it.  Perhaps you have as well.

I demand an apology for this sentence, though I doubt your arrogance will permit you to give it.

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Azagal
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posted April 25, 2009 06:30 AM

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Y'know, this thread makes sense once you realize that "feedback" can refer to what happens when you hold a microphone up to a speaker that it's connected to.

Sweet comeback line ^^.
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Consis
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posted April 27, 2009 12:18 AM

Uh...

bort?!

*checks today's date and does the math*

*mouth hangs open*


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TheDeath
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posted April 27, 2009 01:05 AM

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Buying land is voluntary exchange.
Claiming isn't. Everything is connected, I'm deep as a 'judge', I'm not going to say "here we draw the line, and the people who already have land now, will be theirs -- doesn't matter how they came to have it, let's forget it; the others, tough luck, but now you all respect/recognize how it is right NOW, you can't claim anymore!".

Wait a second, why am I discussing this here, in this thread?
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Mytical
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posted April 27, 2009 06:26 AM

Please remember that this is not the VW.
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Lexxan
Lexxan


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Unimpressed by your logic
posted April 27, 2009 09:38 AM

I'm with TPAM. This is almost like VW spam. Just stop it, you damn' trolls.
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pandora
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posted April 27, 2009 10:06 AM

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I'm with TPAM. This is almost like VW spam. Just stop it, you damn' trolls.


He says, adding to the growing spam pile.


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The_Gootch
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posted April 28, 2009 12:32 AM
Edited by The_Gootch at 00:35, 28 Apr 2009.

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bort?!

*checks today's date and does the math*

*mouth hangs open*




If bort is King Kong, then I'm the tribal native in charge of the gong.  

Dunno how long I'm gonna be able to keep summoning him though, without an appropriate sacrifice i.e. a buxom and helpless damsel.
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pandora
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The Chosen One
posted April 28, 2009 01:04 AM

*sigh* there's a whole thread for this in the tribunal, do we need to talk it out everywhere?

Fun that you posted this after asking me to clean your thread lol

To sum up:

No I'm not penalizing.

No I'm not favouring anyone - that would imply giving one side preferential treatment over another. I've not done that.

I've talked to Phoenix, I think we understand each other.

I realize that my views aren't popular, Angelito is free to overrule me or act however he will on this. But as i said to Azagal earlier, I'm not apologizing to anyone for being honest with you about my opinion.
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The_Gootch
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Kneel Before Me Sons of HC!!
posted April 28, 2009 02:01 AM
Edited by The_Gootch at 04:06, 28 Apr 2009.

As the cries for my head reach a deafening pitch.

And of course the pitch is in the key of Q#.

There are good reasons why powers that be are above the din of the lowly, shrieking mob.  And you blowhards are making that all too apparent.  Thank you.

Let's play parse the words ladies and gent.  Today our special guest is Father.

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No, listen. It is exactly this kind of nonaction that causes people like Gootch to spout off with the things that he does


refer to

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Mod action is not your decision.


I admit that it's cheap to quote PR when I don't agree with him on much of anything.  But since you do, the quote sticks.

Let's keep going.

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Phoenix handled himself very well


Where?  

Was it here?

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I think Corribus and MVass should be penalized for intentionally spamming in this thread on page 2:


Or maybe it was here when he was calling for yet another penalty.

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Corribus should be penalized for provoking me.


And how did Corribus manage to provoke PhoenixReborn?  Did he make comments about PR's pertinence?  Nope.  That was me.  Did he say bad things about PR's ethnic background, family, or religious values?  Oh for the love of god no.  Then what was it?  

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That's a great list!  Thanks for putting in the effort.


That's the reason!?  You have got to be kidding me.  Where I come from we have a lot of different ways to describe this.  For the sake of civility we'll call it absurd.

I submit then that....  Wait, you know the word submit.  Right?  That's the word Corribus and anyone else who has taken classical rhetoric uses when making their argument.  You should be aware of it.  I mean, Corribus used it here:

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Tell you what.  If you can logically explain the distinction of "randomness" between "A kid asked me to help him with his homework today" and "I hit a red light on my way to work this morning" (the comment of mine which is apparently what you consider spamming), then I'll gladly admit I was wrong and you'll never hear from me on the matter again.

On the other hand, if you can't, then I submit that my post(s) were just deleted unfairly.


And what were the reactions to his submission?

From you
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you just didn't have to go there.


From the resident, and I fully confess to using it tongue-in-cheek, precocious kid

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And now you find yourself offended over 3 or 4 deleted posts.
Just let it go, dude. You have at least 20 threads with quasi-scientific discussions going on in them. Leave this one to casual posters.


And William:
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Coming from you who's complaining about your posts being deleted?


Note it took the youngest among the 3 of you to actually engage him.

I submit then that Corribus wanted to debate.  You didn't.  You lectured.    
 
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Phoenix was not given the proper attention or respect he deserves.


So because the mods didn't kowtow to his demands and slap both me and Corribus silly with -qps you're claiming this?  

Or maybe the argument should be shortened and your sights should alone be set on me.  I mean, I clearly said things that were provocative and insulting.  Right?  Let's take another look at this.

Quote:
Undoubtedly he didn't even read the original thread and has no pertinent contribution to the discussion.


My response also includes the use of pertinence.  But somehow my use is more insulting and inflammatory than his.  Is that right?  Is that it?  I should be penalized for using the same terminology that was leveled at me by the very person who claimed to be some kind of a victim?

Oh wait.  It's mod favoritism.  Clearly something that was meant as a joke between two people, Pan and I claiming and acknowledging the myriad times she's saved my butt, is now seen as something far more sinister and nefarious.  *gasp*  Mods like me and protect me!  Gootch does their dirty work!  Gootch says things they want to say but their duties and sense of polite conversation prevents them!  That's they they give him such a wide berth!  It's unfair!  It's cheap!  It goes against the CoC!  Whaaaaah!!!!!!

I said this years ago and I'll say it again.  You have a higher opinion of the opinion they have of me than they do.

Edit:  Grammar.
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TheDeath
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posted April 28, 2009 03:44 AM

Quote:
And of course the pitch is in the key of Q#.
What octave?
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The_Gootch
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Kneel Before Me Sons of HC!!
posted April 28, 2009 04:08 AM

Normally it's out too keen for human ears.  Not this time.  Feels kind of like a combination of the tests that the Emergency Broadcasting System runs (or used to run) and that of Air Raid sirens.

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The_Gootch
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posted April 28, 2009 08:06 PM
Edited by The_Gootch at 20:08, 28 Apr 2009.

Deal!  I steer clear of your pet thread and you don't pepper mods with, "I don't like The_Gootch.  He's posted something offensive yet again in <insert thread>.  Seriously, why do you guys let him get away with it?  If you don't send a message I'll quit!  I swear I'll do it this time!" HCMs.

Edit:  Spit shake on that?



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angelito
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posted April 28, 2009 09:01 PM

Guys...let's try to stop this unnecessary "bashing" here in the feedback thread.

Maybe I make some points clear about the last actions:

- Pan already stated it some months ago, but forgive me I forgot in which thread: Of course we could follow the CoC strictly like robots! No one could blame us. But do we all want that?

- I don't think this community is a kindergarten or a house full of pubescent teenagers, who have to be "ruled" and "leaded" with a raised forfinger all the time. If we would follow the CoC that strictly, some of our "4-red-stars" members would have only 2 red stars left. Be it coz of spamming, off topic babbling or "hidden" personal insults.

- Mostly we have 3 different groups in such discussions:
1. The "oldtimers", who sometimes think they may have more rights than others because they contributed much more to this community than the newbies.
2. The group of the "employee's cars". There are long enough here to have gathered some stars, some experience and think they are on the same "level" as the oldtimers. But they have just passed the probationary period
3. The group of the extroverted newcomers. They like to get into any kind of discussion right from the very first day they joined this community, instead of sitting back and watch it without saying a word just to get a picture of how those things begin, get handled and end.

Everybody can feel free and put himself into a group he thinks he fits best

Of course we here olditmers every now and then saying things like "These newbies come here and cry for penalties instead of showing respect........".
But I have to admit, we Mods are a bit guilty for those actions too, coz we forced them to do so. How come?
It's always a time every year, where things like "favoritism" and similars come up. "Why does he get a +qp, and this guy not?", "Why is he allowed to insult me, while I got penalized for nearly the same action 3 months ago?"....and so on...
What is our response?
"We Mods can't be everywhere every day. Sometimes we are doing hard in reading every new post on this board every day. So please, if you see any posts which you think deserves a +QP or which breaks the CoC, feel free to send us a HCM and we take care about that issue."

While I always try to give a response to such HCM's as soon as possible, so the member knows his/her opinion counts, sometimes I either have not enough free time to take care the same day, or the issue is a bit more complicated and needs a bit more discussion in the Squad for example.

And sometimes I understand both sides. JJ described my way of solving that issue very well in the Tribunal thread. On one hand I understood PR's point of view. He felt personal insulted and wanted either an apology, or an action by the Mods. On the other hand, I know The_Gootch for a very long time know, and can pretty well judge how his posts have to be taken. But this may not count for every member though....
So I could either hand out a penalty coz of "personal insult", and then I am pretty sure the big dicsussion would start: Why not penalty for this post in decembre 08? Why not one for that post in june 07? etc...
I really thought this whole thing isn't just worth it. Of course I also know The_Gootch's comments can be annoying form some of our members here, coz he doesn't post in a regular way lately, but steps in every now and then and shoots an arrow. Most of the members who know him just turn their head to the right and the arrow doesn't hit, while others just start to paint a target in their face so the arrow has no chance to fail....

- My personal hint for the "oldtimers":
Just accept that HC has changed. I would say latest at the point H5 came out. The majority is much younger than at the time H3 came out.

- My personal hint for the group of "employee's cars":
Don't take every word so damn serious.

- My personal hint for the extrovert newcomers:
Play the introverted role during your probationary period more often.
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The_Gootch
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Kneel Before Me Sons of HC!!
posted April 28, 2009 09:48 PM
Edited by The_Gootch at 21:54, 28 Apr 2009.

Not sure I can trust a man who won't honor the spit shake.

But I'll give it a whirl.

Well well well, herr Jollyjoker is it?  I applaud your humorous and carefully crafted advice to PR.  Good job.  

So you want to talk serious, do you?  Fair enough.  

You're already starting off on the wrong foot.  I didn't go after PR because Corribus's (never can be sure about singular possessive for the fancy names that end with an s) stuff was deleted.  Mods do their own thing and rarely do I ever question it.  And even when their decisions are finalized I've never pressed the issue.  Case in point would be when Binabik received what I thought was a ticky tack -qp.  I had my say and moved on.  That Angelito didn't listen to what I thought was sound reasoning didn't offend me.  In the end, it was his call and despite our difference of opinion most of us stayed civil.  So again, my issue wasn't with Angelito deleting Corribus' (play the other side.  I'm sure I'll be 50%) posts.

And there you go, still on the wrong foot.  At no point in all of this have I been angry.  I read PR's asking for a -qp.  I read Corribus's reaction to his posts getting deleted.  Then I read the reactions to his reaction.  And then I laughed and called them clowns.

I don't do intent on demand.  Sorry.  Ok, not really sorry.  From what I've seen of Corribus and how he has related to others, the collective reactions were way over the top and really just ludicrous.  The heart of it for you and me is different.  I saw a 4 on 1 over unjustified small potatoes and threw my hat into the ring to show some solidarity.  That 3 of the 4 disputants were members that I'd locked horns with in the past just made it feel like old times for me.  And for the sake of posterity, those 3 were PhoenixReborn, William, and Baklava.  Father was easily lumped with those 3 because his comments were just as over the top.

Yes Corribus had something constructive in his post.  He's saying if those peeps could prove him wrong through debate then he'd relent and if they couldn't he'd maintain his posts were unfairly deleted.  The heart of the matter then is his right to appeal and to call into question the motives and reasons of anyone he wants to.  I saw a whole lot of dodging (which reminded me of Patches O' Houlihan.  "If you can dodge a debate you can dodge anything!!) and feigned indignance instead of a willingness to engage what I thought was a civil question.  I can only surmise that the ones who didn't (que applause to Baklava for having the sack to say what he did) realized they were in over their heads and they would've gotten schooled in a real debate.  

Why did I offend them?  Um, because I felt they deserved it?  Is that a valid reason?  I forced the mods into an awkward situation?  I don't believe I said anything that was more awkward than PhoenixReborn doing a fine imitation of the Queen of Hearts.  

I do pick my battles thank you very much.  And there wasn't a lapse in judgement on my part in this case.  I have zero empathy for PhoenixReborn and we have both taken enough digs at each other to ensure that this will probably remain the case for a long time.  The mods looked at his case and how he presented it.  And instead of declaring that I was bullying, badgering, or harrassing him they decided it was a fair fight.

Are you satisfied?  Any further questions?

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The_Gootch
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posted April 28, 2009 10:38 PM

Sounds like it was lighthearted, playful, and not very serious.  Strictly speaking, if he violated anything it was more the spirit of what others thought the thread could be and not the word of Lucky_Dorf.  

In other words, it sounded like something the OSM could always use a little bit more of.
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mvassilev
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posted April 28, 2009 10:53 PM
Edited by mvassilev at 22:54, 28 Apr 2009.

Back before I was part of the OSM gang, it seems that the line between humorous and serious discussion was a lot more blurred. At least, people didn't complain so much when that line was crossed. But now...
I'm an OSMer. In the past, I have been called extremely serious and have been told to lighten up. Okay. Take your own advice, then. What Corribus posted wasn't off-topic, certainly, nor was it serious. But, IMO, it was well in line with the general idea of the thread - a thread with "Random" in it isn't going to be 100% serious. Some people thought differently, though - and so this started.

It's okay to joke! It's okay to have fun! If you're not having fun, then leave. Right now. Because HC is supposed to be fun - whether it's being serious or not. Don't drag it down.
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posted April 28, 2009 11:19 PM

Quote:
"I thought about discussing the most delicious food everyone has eaten so far. You know, the stuff that really made a lasting impression, that you could wat very often.
Well, I start: mine is the Big Mac TS with double cheese."

See: Basically interesting, but started on a low level.
Well, then, you and I have different understandings of what is interesting. Because, IMO, this kind of thread is basically stillborn - but to make it more amusing is good.
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baklava
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posted April 28, 2009 11:33 PM

What the watermelon do I have to do with any of this

I see my name is being tossed around all of a sudden.

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que applause to Baklava for having the sack to say what he did

For what? It's a discussion over like 3 freaking posts and I made a sarcastic remark while trying to get my point across that it doesn't bloody matter. I really don't see how a large sack has anything to do with that or any of this (not that I don't have a large sack nevertheless, mind you ^^).

And in your quest to pick silly fights with random people for God knows what reason (my bet is boredom), you're making it sound like I have something against Corribus. I don't. I just don't. Hell, some of my favourite posts are written by that guy.
But if replying to someone's question is considered an attack on his divine personality, then sure, I'm a ruthless maniacal aggressor (and feel free to bomb me. Again.)
Otherwise, get back to your cheerful chocolate wrestling locking horns with Father and keep me out of it.
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