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posted July 29, 2009 08:04 AM |
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the problem is, TheDeath was asked to change his style not only once, and not only by 1 mod, and not only by 1 member.
So?
Is this a witchhunt or something where not even the CoC is enough, but what the masses think or want?
You still don't get it huh?
Of course it is in a certain way "what the masses think", because the CoC was written to please the masses, and not some single members who think they can do whatever they want. And even if YOU still don't see it (surprise), your way of arguing IS provoking for those who want a discussion on an at least normal level. And if more and more members complain about you and your provoking posting style, it is the JOB of a moderator to check that issue and get it straight again. This has nothing to do with a witch hunt, because this would be done with EVERY member who acts they way you do. Just remember mvass some weeks ago.
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However I did say I'm tired of this, since it's not the first time, and I don't like the same stuff again and again as you noticed on any new thread with "old subjects".
As long as you don't change the way you argue, you will face such issues every now and then. With other results maybe if there is NO single improvement in sight of course!
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I don't think you successfully used the same style however. Let's see, I'm usually using analogies, you are saying "you make no sense" or "your posts are so full of snow" or something like that.
I never said YOU make no sense, I said your post makes no sense.
I never said your posts are full of snow, but it is impossible ONE person can post so much snow. And I have to make clear here, the word SNOW was NOT the result of a replacement by the system, but was intentionally posted by me!
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I would only request that you don't paint me with that immaturity responses. Whether you think my analogies are childish is up to you, but don't paint them with what you said as being "the mirror". Thanks.
Again great example that you don't even read the posts of others correctly. You already said yourself you don't have enough time to do this and that...and this seems to be the result.
For the matter of fact you like analogies so much, even though you mostly fail to use them correctly, because it seems YOU are the only one who gets the sense behind them, in this is a pretty clear indication, I will use an analogy myself to try again making the problem more clearly:
- 2 people talking about fast cars. One mentions a Ferrari, the other a Porsche
 What car will TheDeath mention? Probably a Ford Model T from the early 20ies.
"But we were talking about FAST cars!"
TheDeath: "If you take these 3 cars and throw them out of a plane, do you think the Ford Model T will be last hitting the ground? Get your facts about physcis right before you talk about speed!"
You get the picture?
Even though the FACTS he posted are completely correct, the post had NOTHING..absolutely NOTHING to do with the intentionally discussion between the 2 members.
Same with the dolphin/chicken meat....an exact copy of the above example.
So as long as you do NOT stop things like that, you will have problems here...if you like it or not.
Add something constructive (which you are able to do, you have prooven it more than enough), and everything is fine. But constructive meant in a common sense...not constructive just in YOUR eyes.
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posted July 29, 2009 08:21 AM |
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your way of arguing IS provoking for those who want a discussion on an at least normal level
Provoking: "You're an idiot and everything you say is wrong."
Not provoking: [Something relevant and on-topic].
The vast majority of Death's posts fall in the second category. I have yet to see him post something like the first example.
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Just remember mvass some weeks ago.
Perhaps Death, Elodin, I, and whoever else isn't popular at the moment need to have our five-pointed yellow stars replaced with six-pointed ones?
As regards my posting, the only people to have complained about it are you and Azagal (and occasionally William). I would prefer if someone has a problem with me, they contact me about it first, instead of crying to the mods. We don't have to act like kids here.
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posted July 29, 2009 09:49 AM |
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This discussion is pointless. As long as personal insults that may hurt people aren't posted, I don't care what people post. If arguing with TheDeath is pain, maybe you shouldn't do so. Much easier solution than trying to change the personality of TheDeath.
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angelito
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posted July 29, 2009 09:54 AM |
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Provoking: "You're an idiot and everything you say is wrong."
This is not provoking, this is an INSULT...geez
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Not provoking: [Something relevant and on-topic].
Here is the problem. See the blue colored part of my post above. His "arguments" are often NOT relevant (because completely off) and therefore nothing else but provoking.
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The vast majority of Death's posts fall in the second category. I have yet to see him post something like the first example.
Seems you have problems to differ between provokation and insults.
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Just remember mvass some weeks ago.
Perhaps Death, Elodin, I, and whoever else isn't popular at the moment need to have our five-pointed yellow stars replaced with six-pointed ones?
And what would that change? What has "popularity" to do with that? It has more to do with: "I am able to do this, therefore I'll do it...no matter what! I don't care about what others think!"
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As regards my posting, the only people to have complained about it are you and Azagal (and occasionally William).
Sorry, this is wrong. ALL but 2 or 3 in that MJ thread have been complaining about you that time!
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I would prefer if someone has a problem with me, they contact me about it first, instead of crying to the mods. We don't have to act like kids here.
I can understand would prefer that way, but every member has the right to contact a Mod if he feels like. And this has nothing to do with behaving like kids. Why don't you stop acting like a 50 year old? If those members don't WANT to talk to you about that, that's fine. Maybe they are tired of discussions and quote wars?
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angelito
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posted July 29, 2009 09:57 AM |
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This discussion is pointless. As long as personal insults that may hurt people aren't posted, I don't care what people post.
So every other member has to care the same way you do?
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posted July 29, 2009 10:51 AM |
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Will you ever stop with this?
in affrica some tribes are cannibels.[/ot]
sorry for ot.
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posted July 29, 2009 05:22 PM |
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Edited by TheDeath at 17:23, 29 Jul 2009.
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This discussion is pointless. As long as personal insults that may hurt people aren't posted, I don't care what people post.
So every other member has to care the same way you do?
What about you?
When you say my posts are irrelevant or have no relevance or whatever, that is not measurable. They are on topic most times, as comparisons (the car example you gave is NOT a comparison! that's not my style), so no spam. CoC says nothing since this thing is subjective. If people don't like my posts, then so be it -- I don't like some member's posts (sometimes what xerox posts for example), yet I have never EVER said they should be silenced or warned or anything like that. I accept different opinions, different styles, and frankly, just POSTS. Do you?
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Will you ever stop with this?
in affrica some tribes are cannibels.[/ot]
sorry for ot.
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posted July 29, 2009 06:47 PM |
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Insults are a form of provocation. 
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It has more to do with: "I am able to do this, therefore I'll do it...no matter what! I don't care about what others think!"
As long as there is one member willing to read and reply to my posts, I will continue to post.
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Why don't you stop acting like a 50 year old?
...Seriously?
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posted July 29, 2009 06:55 PM |
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So every other member has to care the same way you do?
No, they don't have to. But I think many do.
As long as someone doesn't post something that derails the whole discussion, it doesn't really matter if it's not all relevant.
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posted August 12, 2009 04:58 PM |
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Suggestion for +QP for dimis' excellent post in the AI thread (page 3). (Seconding JJ's nomination.  )
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posted August 14, 2009 02:30 AM |
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I'm just posting to welcome Jesus-didn't-ask-the-lepers-for-shekels-at-the-fair-market-price Shyranis to Heroes Community. For a moment there the sensitive balance was threatened, but now, with another outspoken native speaker on the right side, everything is alright with the world again. 
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posted August 14, 2009 02:39 AM |
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I'm just posting to welcome Jesus-didn't-ask-the-lepers-for-shekels-at-the-fair-market-price Shyranis to Heroes Community. For a moment there the sensitive balance was threatened, but now, with another outspoken native speaker on the right side, everything is alright with the world again.
Um... thanks ^_^
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posted August 14, 2009 09:18 AM |
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Suggestion for +QP for dimis' excellent post in the AI thread (page 3). (Seconding JJ's nomination. )
Agreed and applied.
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posted August 18, 2009 06:08 PM |
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This is feedback from a warning the in the "Religion:Heritage of Hostility" thread.
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First of all Elodin, I give you a last warning. If you do not stop provoking others (mostly those who do NOT share your view of the world!) by claiming WRONG quotes, I will penalize you!
First of all when someone started calling religious people drug addicts and religion a drug you said it was ok when I objected to the slur. You then started equating religious people to addicts yourself.
Secondly, you said this is a "last warning" of me misquoting people. Perhaps you could provide links where I have been warned for supposedly misquoting people before because I have not ever received a PM which such an allegation.
I don't knowingly misquote anyone. Words are constantly put in my mouth by atheists but you allow atheists to say what they want to say seemingly with no rebuke. Some atheists continually provoke me and you say not one word.
See "What do you really know about the Bible" thread page 4 where religious people first started being equated with drug addicts and where I objected and you said it is ok to equate religious people with drug addicts.
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I have NEVER EVER said in any of my posts that religious people are DRUG ADDICTS. So be careful in the future!
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Please...I slowly get the feeling nearly everything seems to be an insult in your eyes if it is only slightly "against" religion.
I don't see any insult if someone compares religious "addiction" with drug "addiction". The important thing is "addiction"...not "drugs".
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Come on Elodin...now it's getting funny. Is someone who says "Drugs exists" a drug addict? No...of course not. But someone who consumes drugs regularely and can't live without it is an addict.
So someone who "consumes" religion (e.g.:reading in the bible or going to the church every week...) and can't live without religion anymore can be called an addict aswell...why not?
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Adn he also doesn't NEED a formula to be happy...while religious people can't be happy without either a bible, a church or at least a "daily" prayer.
And here is the difference..."daily"...regularly..
And of course our body is addicted to air, water, food, etc.....but this has nothing to do with MIND.
In opposit to religion
Your body doesn't need the bible to survive....
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Secondly, I am married to a christian african woman. God plays an important role in her life. BUT, in opposit to you, she doesn't oppress others with her belief.
I have never oppressed anyone with my religious beliefs.
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posted August 18, 2009 10:57 PM |
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Are you for real Elodin?
You quote hundred lines of text here, and still NOT ONE SINGLE LINE SAYS: Religious people are DRUG ADDICTS!" Or have you some kind of secret writing style so only YOU can see special words?
I stay with my words: STOP misquoting others by purpose!
Secondly: Where does it say I have to warn you for EVERY missacting?
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posted August 19, 2009 12:01 AM |
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Are you for real Elodin?
You quote hundred lines of text here, and still NOT ONE SINGLE LINE SAYS: Religious people are DRUG ADDICTS!" Or have you some kind of secret writing style so only YOU can see special words?
I stay with my words: STOP misquoting others by purpose!
Secondly: Where does it say I have to warn you for EVERY missacting?
It is untrue to say I misquote people, and certainly not deliberately. Again, I asked for evidence. You claimed again that I do it on purpose and that I have done so on other occasions [by saying you don't have to warn me every time.] That is false.
If you can show that me links where I have done so, please produce them.
Here is exactly what I said. The context shows that I said you equated being religios to drug addiction, which your own words show.
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With your view of religion as an evil and delusional belief and as being equal to drug addiction you could hardly have a peaceful home if you married someone who is actually religious. They would be a fool to marry you and be called a drug addict every day of their life.
Your words that I already quoted show you consier religion to be the same as drug addiction. If that is not in fact what you believe you should chose your words more carefully because you did equate religion with drug addiction. Others were equating religious people with drug addicts and you jumped in "the fun" even though I objected to religious people being called an addict.
Oh, and I do object to your false allegation that I oppress others with my beliefs. I have never oppressed anyone at any time.
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posted August 26, 2009 08:59 AM |
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All I'm going to say is...
It was worth it.
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posted August 26, 2009 09:01 AM |
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Me and Gootch have no issues (that I know of). He is one of the more interesting Posters  . Lots of respect for him.
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posted August 26, 2009 09:05 AM |
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Awww, I really loved his post 
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posted August 26, 2009 09:08 AM |
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He ALWAYS makes good posts. That is why he has so many shinies attached to his name . Doesn't affect the CoC though. 
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