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Conan
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posted November 15, 2004 01:56 AM |
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OK,
Now that all this has been said, and plus the fact that I talked to Jebus about his game and the ease with witch Angelito was taking out Utopia's,
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How do you do it?
I played a game online Sunday and it went well, but I still lost tooooo many guys. I did a search on google to find out some threads about these strategies, but can't find anything. It would really help for me to get some advice here.
Thanks,
conan
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tigris
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posted November 15, 2004 08:00 AM |
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OK,
Now that all this has been said, and plus the fact that I talked to Jebus about his game and the ease with witch Angelito was taking out Utopia's,
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How do you do it?
i've spoke to angelito also and i'm also intrigued. i'm sure he didn't cheat, but i can't understand where did he get the money and the resources to build portal of glory+ castle week one(starting with 15000 gold you need to build mage guild=2000, blacksmith=1000, barracks=2500 ,monastery=3000, citadel=2500,castle=5000 and portal of glory=20000)that's 36000(18000 still needed cos you get 500/day), in all without saying that wou need to find an additional 5 of each resources to to this (+2 monastery, +10 potral of glory)
Ok i admit that's quit possible, but angelito told me he had the archangels week 2 day 4(another 20000+10 of each resources) I don't know if he build anything else during that time(i assume so).Now week 3, day one he has 7 archangels wich he buys(35000+10 gems), fights throng minotaur king,+ 2 topias, recruits and kicks jebus's a**.so in two weeks he spends in exess of 90000!!! gold +29 gems.Doing a little math results he aquired 69000 gold and 22 gems(without counting what he had build week 2 besides the upgrade for AA, assuming he didn't upgrade to townhall and he didn't bought any hero which is hard to belive).
maybe i'm a bigger noob than i thought, but i can't figure out how he did that!
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LordLazy
Promising
Famous Hero
Wood cleaner
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posted November 15, 2004 08:08 AM |
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one naga bank, two naga banks, three naga banks, four naga banks  
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tigris
Supreme Hero
Supreme Noobolator
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posted November 15, 2004 08:19 AM |
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with what army?on what map can you find
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one naga bank, two naga banks, three naga banks, four naga banks
two topias and that many resources in your reach afte two weeks?
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angelito
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posted November 15, 2004 02:38 PM |
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i've spoke to angelito also and i'm also intrigued. i'm sure he didn't cheat, but i can't understand where did he get the money and the resources to build portal of glory+ castle week one(starting with 15000 gold you need to build mage guild=2000, blacksmith=1000, barracks=2500 ,monastery=3000, citadel=2500,castle=5000 and portal of glory=20000)that's 36000(18000 still needed cos you get 500/day), in all without saying that wou need to find an additional 5 of each resources to to this (+2 monastery, +10 potral of glory)
Ok i admit that's quit possible, but angelito told me he had the archangels week 2 day 4(another 20000+10 of each resources) I don't know if he build anything else during that time(i assume so).Now week 3, day one he has 7 archangels wich he buys(35000+10 gems), fights throng minotaur king,+ 2 topias, recruits and kicks jebus's a**.so in two weeks he spends in exess of 90000!!! gold +29 gems.Doing a little math results he aquired 69000 gold and 22 gems(without counting what he had build week 2 besides the upgrade for AA, assuming he didn't upgrade to townhall and he didn't bought any hero which is hard to belive).
maybe i'm a bigger noob than i thought, but i can't figure out how he did that!
Hehehe...nice maths..
Coz of these for u unbelievable facts, i suggest to play 2vs2 allied games. That way, u can watch all the things going on on my (or other players) side.
But i will try to explain a bit about how one can do that what u described in your post.
First of all, the "Jebus"-template is a very rich one. You have plenty of resource piles laying around in your area. So when u buy at least 6 heroes (+ the starting one), u have 7 guys (or girls) who can collect and fight. It is NOT that interesting, which hero fights in the first week, coz those exp. points arenīt that much. Of course some heroes have advantages when fighting a full crypt (10 vamps) on day 1 or 2 (like armorer/offense heroes, or archery/archer heroes (Orrin, Valeska), but all other things can be done buy every hero. And a full crypt gives 5.000 gold..
On day 5 u built the portal, buy the angel and chain it to all heroes u can reach, fight other crypts, and most of all the shooter guards. (especially your resource mines)
On day 1 week 2, u buy only your 2 angels and built stables, so u have 3 angels, much movement and can fight full medusa stores, middle naga banks (with expert slow even full ones) and most of the conservatories (cure helps here also..).
If u donīt build ANYTHING until u have your missing 20.000 gold, (day 2 to 4 in week 2), u still can build all missing dwellings in week 2.
Now u should have stats over the 10th on all 4 slots normaly (exp.points, pandoras boxes, arties...)
I had 7 Archangels on day 7 week 2 (2 times 2 out of a cons.) and made my both utopias only with them (2 stacks of 4 and 3, so every stack could resurrect 1 AA!).
I got some relic artifatcs out of the topes, so my stats rose up to the 20th....
On start of week 3, with 9 Archangels on my Tazar (also 2 stacks, 4 and 5), expert slow, throng of minokigs werenīt a problem...So guards to middle zone were killed.
In the middle zone (on my way to my opponents area) i saw again a throng minos, who guarded the Helm of Heavenly Enlightment, so i killed them and my stats rose again a bit...
Until i reached his guards to the middle area, i only had my Archangels on my main, all the other troops "waited" in town until i upgraded all my dwellings, then i chained them all to my main after i broke to his guards and went straight to his town.
Thatīs how it went....nothing special...90% of all online players would have done it like this (5% much faster, 5% would have needed more time..)
and yes.....when the game was finished, my starting town still had only townhall built..
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Jebus
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TheJester akaJeebs akaJebfoo
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posted November 15, 2004 03:43 PM |
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Edited By: Jebus on 15 Nov 2004
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Thatīs how it went....nothing special...90% of all online players would have done it like this (5% much faster, 5% would have needed more time..)
and yes.....when the game was finished, my starting town still had only townhall built..
Well I'm happy to see that my name is posted all over this beating!!!
(It is important to note how smoothly Angelito posts his replies... Didn't mention me once. He uses terms like opponent, enemy, so on.... Not "the victim", "my prey", or "noob"..... man makes you feel no ill will in taking a beating of this magnitude!!! With a guy like that you can get your a** kicked and still want to be his friend, or apprentice. Man I hate that !!! LOL)
(hey at least I've stopped crying!!! I do still have bad dreams though!!)
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Conan
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posted November 15, 2004 07:46 PM |
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I had 7 Archangels on day 7 week 2 (2 times 2 out of a cons.) and made my both utopias only with them (2 stacks of 4 and 3, so every stack could resurrect 1 AA!).
I got some relic artifatcs out of the topes, so my stats rose up to the 20th....
This is the part that interests me... taking a utopia with 7 AA's ? How do you do that? I would really be greatfull for a step-by-step of each round... if that's not too much of your time. 
Thanks
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tigris
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posted November 16, 2004 08:49 AM |
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Edited By: tigris on 16 Nov 2004
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Hehehe...nice maths..
Not that great in fact(i didn't count on those cons angels which only needed upgrade+ a bunch of other things)
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Coz of these for u unbelievable facts, i suggest to play 2vs2 allied games. That way, u can watch all the things going on on my (or other players) side.
i'd love too.
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First of all, the "Jebus"-template is a very rich one.
i only saw templates like 8xm8 or something like that(i don't recall exactly) the point is i only saw innitials. this is a custom template? what templates do you guys play on the zone? where can i get those?
today i heard about the template called ring.what are those?
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Thatīs how it went....nothing special...90% of all online players would have done it like this (5% much faster, 5% would have needed more time..)
don't be modest!!
thanks for the tactic lesson, maybe you should post more in frank's thread in tournament of honour.
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Jebus
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TheJester akaJeebs akaJebfoo
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posted November 16, 2004 04:07 PM |
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Edited By: Jebus on 16 Nov 2004
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Hey Angelito??
Remember that time you womped me!!???
Wasn't that funny??? HA-HAHA!!! remebember???? week 2???? +20 stats???? I had nothing??? remember???? Then the crying?? and the therapy??? BAAHAHAHA!!!
Dang I could use another one of those!!!!
(so uh... are they still fighting??... no? ok good... do you think it worked?? ok cool!!
so Utopia's eh??? ah ****!! here we go again!!!
(I think I'm having a hard time letting go...)
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RATxFxixNxKx
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posted November 19, 2004 02:13 AM |
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i totally feel you on the angelito wooping- and whoever questions angel's vet status can talk to me. my productive question to this thread is with what week(assuming you had all 7 dwellings and gold to buy em all) would you attack the mightiest utopia?
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Jebus
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TheJester akaJeebs akaJebfoo
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posted November 19, 2004 05:36 PM |
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i totally feel you on the angelito wooping- and whoever questions angel's vet status can talk to me. my productive question to this thread is with what week(assuming you had all 7 dwellings and gold to buy em all) would you attack the mightiest utopia?
Not questioning in the least from my part... I lived it first hand.... so much so that I started a thread for "your worse battles"... I needed a little groupe therapy to see that "it's ok Jebus, you did your best... you're good enough, and smart enough....."
I'd still like to see the Week 2 "Angelito VS the Utopia" though.... (the sould've had him in the hobbit!!! lol..... I'm gonna get flammed for mentioning LOTR aren't I???)
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Sir_Stiven
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banned
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posted November 19, 2004 09:59 PM |
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bah your all birdbrains anyway for knowing so much about a cheesy tactic as hit&run 
so there, now you girlies can focus your anger on me instead. I can take it
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Jebus
Promising
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TheJester akaJeebs akaJebfoo
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posted November 19, 2004 10:11 PM |
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bah your all birdbrains anyway for knowing so much about a cheesy tactic as hit&run
so there, now you girlies can focus your anger on me instead. I can take it
So does that mean that if I didn't know much about hit and run, I'm not a bird brain???
confused....
(I'm not gonna have to change my name again am I???)
LOL
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tigris
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posted November 22, 2004 09:39 AM |
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I'd still like to see the Week 2 "Angelito VS the Utopia" though.... (the sould've had him in the hobbit!!! lol..... I'm gonna get flammed for mentioning LOTR aren't I???)
Im still curious about this aswell.Angelito said he took the topia with only 7 AA divided in two slots 4 and 3 so they can both ressurect once. I did the same thing with a lvl 14 tazar on a full tope.The result:i've lost 4 AA even if i've resurected once with both my stacks.I didn't get the hit and run thinggie...
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dark_y0uth
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posted November 22, 2004 10:13 AM |
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I'd still like to see the Week 2 "Angelito VS the Utopia" though.... (the sould've had him in the hobbit!!! lol..... I'm gonna get flammed for mentioning LOTR aren't I???)
Im still curious about this aswell.Angelito said he took the topia with only 7 AA divided in two slots 4 and 3 so they can both ressurect once. I did the same thing with a lvl 14 tazar on a full tope.The result:i've lost 4 AA even if i've resurected once with both my stacks.I didn't get the hit and run thinggie...
In full tope is hard with small stats. You can sacrifice 30-40 units lvl 1. And defence/you recieve +9 defence-with Tazar that is.../ AA`s in some corner, where only 2 stacks can hit to AA`s +shield+cure-then no problems
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tigris
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posted November 22, 2004 01:34 PM |
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In full tope is hard with small stats. You can sacrifice 30-40 units lvl 1. And defence/you recieve +9 defence-with Tazar that is.../ AA`s in some corner, where only 2 stacks can hit to AA`s +shield+cure-then no problems
So if i understand correctly i should attack the black/gold dragons first.The question is "will the greens and the reds attack the fodders?"I don't kow about that one...Should they decide to go for my AA one stack will be vulnerable not to 2 but 3 stacks.Anyway even if they decide to go for the fodder the next round the're still going to jump my AA's.Being a might hero a week 2 tazar with no relics or major artifacts will have 5 spell power maximum.So cure is a bit useless..Needs further testing nevertheless.Maybe Angelito will eventually step in and enlighten us.
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angelito
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proud father of a princess
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posted November 22, 2004 03:26 PM |
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Before i entered the utopia, i checked out if it is a full one or not. (Go on the tope, do not enter, rightclick on it, if it says "few" golds, it is not a full one)
A full utopia is very hard with 7 AAīs and no fodder. You need high stats and eventually expert cure + shield to get out without losses.
But the other topes (2,3 or 4 golds) can be done with stats in the 10th and expert earth.(expert water also helps)
Dark_Y0uth described it very well. First round u cast expert shield (or stoneskin) and attack blacks and golds, so the greens and reds canīt reach u that turn. Keep in mind, that the dragons also canīt get moral, coz they are from 2 different towns!
(If u want to add some fodder, than place 1 single lev1 unit in all other slots, so the dragons have something to kill..
Now u should try to place your AAīs each in a corner, so they can be attacked by 2 stacks only. Cast cure every round and resurrect early enough (a stack of 2 AAīs canīt resurrect another AA!). And when u are placed in the corner, then hit the greens and reds first, coz 8 greens do more damage than 2 blacks..
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Conan
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posted November 22, 2004 07:30 PM |
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thanks for the input angelito, I didn't know about the right-clicking of the tope part.
I appreciate you comming here to discuss it, know I can test it out myself.
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Rage08
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Making it in the real world
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posted November 22, 2004 08:02 PM |
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I say a big stack of Vamps and maybe animate dead is a good way of going about it. You might want to have some speed arties, so your Vamps aren't stuck going last however. I like to choose the hero with specialty vampires for that very reason. Slipped my mind what his name is though...
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Dark_Y0uth
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posted November 22, 2004 08:09 PM |
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A full utopia is very hard with 7 AAīs and no fodder. You need high stats and eventually expert cure + shield to get out without losses.
Tazar lvl 14, expert water, expert armor and no earth magic,7/14/5/6 with 3+4 AA`s +5 gnolls got full tope
I try with 7 AA`s one slot, but 1 AA loss
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