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Sir_Stiven
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posted November 24, 2004 04:42 PM

khaelo,

i dont think you got my last points judging on your replies. I dont want a democratic system of voting for QP's to bring up one example, this has been up to discussion earlier and even then i was against it.

My point when i refered to it as out of reach was that its very seldom discussed in general here. The moderator inputs which brings the debate forward (as your last reply) can usually be counted on one hand. Usually it is moderators saying "point taken" and/or gives a QP for it and then the debate seem to be over atleats for the public.

And this is where my problem with this lies, as i meant in my last post.. this is IMO where the communities input about general opinions about Qp's matter the most. Sure you have all been members here and some are more experienced then others. But i do believe you forget one thing, and thats that you have never been a member with yourself as a mod and the current mod squad.

Therefor you dont see the QP issues and other issues for that matter which other members sees about the current modsquad.

And thats why the communities input is so valuable and also the reason why i said that they are the ones i would ask first if i was a moderator.


Then about the "unified modfront", as ive pointed out earlier i am totally pro that as ive been both a teacher and am a leading member at a big swedish site and know the importance of it. But as you pointed out the system as it is now is buggy.

You speak about that you see the problem about unified front and yet not undermine the moderators authority. And as i see it, that is just the problem.

To me its simple if you got a teamwork you must be able to share your honest opinions, if you dont it isnt a teamwork but a team who always must share one opinion. Which means.. the team as a concept is worthless as 1+1=1 while a real teamwork ends up with 1+1=3. Meaning the end result is better than the two halves put together.

To further expand this, as a moderator here you must learn that moderator actions are supposed to be objective. Meaning if moderator A gives a member X a QP for an outstanding argument in a discussion with moderator B this isnt a personal insult or any subjective move for that matter. It is a move which is used for improving the messageboards share of honest opinions and is an objective one.

So to me the very solution is this easy, teamwork isnt teamwork when 1+1=1. Instead be a team and deal with issues in a teamworking manner as it will improve the board in general alot. Dont get personally offended if someone brings up another post that a mod finds top 2% in mod squad even if the arguements is towards a moderator.

IMO that is what teamwork really is about, mutual trust, respect and understanding.

So in my eyes the solution is as easy as this.

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posted November 25, 2004 02:25 AM

We may be talking past each other here.

I do prefer a democratic system, but that's probably because I saw such a system working elsewhere and got envious.    I'll shut up about that now.

I think of "general" QP issues as beyond the current rotation of mods.  You say that it is seldom discussed, and I would agree with you insofar as you mean discussed in depth.  Discussed at all...well, the topic of "those little red stars" was already pretty old when I signed up here two years ago.  It's still being debated now and with so many mod changes in the meantime -- that makes me think that the problems lie within the system itself, not the individual squad of any given time.

Of course, if people have problems with a particular moderator's behavior, that's a whole different issue and not one that the rest of the mods can do much about or comment on publically.

As to your other point, about community input:  There are spaces for the community to pipe up about QP policy.  However, historically, people seem to come with a specific case in mind and when that thorn is pulled, they go away.  Somebody points out a problem, mod says "point taken" and fixes it, and the event is over.  I don't think the mods should take all the blame for lack of discussion all around.  This thread nearly died.  Some see the state of QPs as an unresolved issue, and here is a thread to talk it out.  How many people are participating?

Teamwork:
My ability to comment on this section is limited.  The mod squad is not a mindmeld. (!)  We do not in fact share one opinion.  However, we do have to share one decision.  Multiple decisions to reflect multiple opinions would just be chaos.  So, discussion occurs in ModSquad HQ, and one decision results.  The messy teamwork happens over donuts.  Your suggestion seems so easy; what makes you think we're not already trying?
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posted November 25, 2004 03:00 AM

I do agree that there should be more community input when it comes to the Moderators and QP's. I don't feel that we can do much to improve without input from the members as to how we 'should' do that. Ironically while Stefan's point seems to be that the Moderator's don't listen, my opinion would be quite the opposite, twice now in the Tavern Feedback and Complaints thread I have asked for input specifically about QP's and recieved very little response.

I would love to see more feedback from the community on these issues, and preferably from a lot of different members representing the different 'groups' in the community.

On the matter of Moderator teamwork, I have never had a problem there. I am teamed with Ravyn, who is a good friend of mine and has been long before I ever became a Mod - and Asmodean who I feel completely comfortable with and have come to like immensely, and in here with Djive, who I don't know as well but through chats and through reading his posts I have a lot of respect for. I really can't speak about any problem with communication as i have never been the type to just swallow it and move on when something bugs me, and I am confident that any difference of opinion that i have with the Moderators I am partered with can be resolved through talking. In the very worst case scenario i know that even if we disagree we will find a way to come to the best decision for the community.

So on that front I would have to say that as far as mutual trust, respect and understanding goes -- I am ok there

I would really love to hear more from other members about this, specifically:

Do you feel that QP's should be given out less/more?

In which forums and why?

Do you feel that if you have a problem you can approach the moderators of that forum about it?

What would you suggest as one thing that the moderators could do to improve Heroes Community?
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Sir_Stiven
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posted November 25, 2004 03:30 AM

am off to bed now and will reply to these posts tomorrow, but one question for you.

If the teamwork is as good as so say, why havent any member gotten a QP and been disagreeing with a moderator and if this is as you say being discussed over and over in modsquad..why hasnt there been any changes?

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posted November 25, 2004 03:41 AM
Edited By: pandora on 24 Nov 2004

There hasn't been an instance involving me in the time that I've been modding that really applies to your question.

Since I have been a mod, there have been members that have disagreed with me and while I have respected their opinions, those posts were not in the top 2% of HC, and it has never been posed to me by any of the other Mods or any members that those posts were meriting QP.  And I really can't think of any time that anyone has disagreed with Asmodean, Djive or Ravyn.

I can only give you answers that pertain to me on this one, as i wouldn't want to make the mistake of putting words in someone else's mouth.

I do care what goes on in the rest of the HC, and I do offer my opinions about all of the other forums when the issues come up in ModSquad, but ultimately each forum is looked after by its own Mods.
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Sir_Stiven
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posted November 25, 2004 07:15 PM

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think of "general" QP issues as beyond the current rotation of mods. You say that it is seldom discussed, and I would agree with you insofar as you mean discussed in depth. Discussed at all...well, the topic of "those little red stars" was already pretty old when I signed up here two years ago. It's still being debated now and with so many mod changes in the meantime -- that makes me think that the problems lie within the system itself, not the individual squad of any given time.

khaelo, I find this quote to be somewhat contractive as you have earlier said that the QP are alot a moderator issue and now you blame the system for it.

Taking that one step further, isnt it you moderators that makes that "system" then as you are the only ones participating in it and youre the ones having the final say in QP issues?

Which practically means that the only ones that can change the "system" itself is..you, while you mods on the other hand think this is due to the system. IMO it seems like you have built some moment 22 here instead of actually looking after what you can do to change the system.

Not to be over critic but this kind of reasoning sounds like "it hasnt been done in the past so why change it now" attitude, which brings me to my point to start with. Things like these very seldom gets discussed in depth as you say.

But then, that is also up to you moderators to keep those discussions going aswell. A good way to do this is to motivate members to come up with ideas and then show that they are dealt with properly.

If members aint participating as you point out you still can do things about it, one of your major duties here as moderators is to keep the discussions going. And while i off course realise that you cant to all this on your own handing out bonuses, give credit by words and so on are excellent ways to keep discussions going.

Once again, i dont think the moderators should take all blame here.. thats not what im saying. What i am saying is that you should look for the things that you can improve and take responsbility for that part rather then saying you dont deserve all blame.

Sorry if i sound harsh now but as long as you dont see what you can do and only what everyone else can do there will be no improvement. Just a case where everyone blames everyone else. I dont want that, i want improvement. And to the best of my knowledge im participating in this the best i can but if anyone of you have another opinion feel free to share it and ill try and adapt to it.


About the teamwork, once again i fully understand your reasoning behind unified fronts. Thats still not what this is about. This is about enough teamwork and trust between eachother so when 2 moderators share a forum one moderator can give a QP to a member disagreeing with the other moderator if the reasoning is good enough.

I dont know what i can say to make you realise that that isnt the case now, and it might be a part of the "system" but then again the only ones who can change the system is you moderators.

Problem: Members never get rewarded for disagreeing with moderators no matter reasoning.

Solution: ?. Ive brought up several ideas on how to work on this behind the scenes and what my experience tell me is important in matters like this. Once again what you mods needs to realise is that you need to work this out.

And my solution is just about as easy as its complicated if you want to be. It can be very easy, just make each other know that giving out "disagreeing QP:s" isnt personal but just a follow by the CoC for being objective about good reasoning. Meaning, you look at the reasoning around the post instead of the actual outcome from it.


Pandora, this isnt a personal thing. Its a general one. Im just asking you to look at what the post says instead of if you agree with the poster or care about who the poster is.

Not personal again, just a general response to a thing you said: "Since I have been a mod, there have been members that have disagreed with me and while I have respected their opinions, those posts were not in the top 2% of HC"

This is just what i mean, now i dont know the posts in question. But as stated this is just general, but IMO you gotta realise too that you might not concider posts top 2% because they dont say what you want to hear.


Dont have time for your questions now pan, but ill raise two of my own for you moderators:


Members never have gotten rewarded when they disagree with a moderator, is that problem?


If yes, what possible solutions could you moderators as are the only ones that can deal out QP:s do about it?

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pandora
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posted November 25, 2004 07:28 PM

I know its not personal Stefan, and I'm not taking it that way. My only point in speaking as I am is that I can only speak for myself and not tell you how the other moderators think.

As for the posts that disagreed with mine, i was referring to RealDeal's fight for the DTT posts... and more recently Trogdors disagreeing with his thread being moved, you can read the thread here and see for yourself So I really wasn't talking about the same type of posts as you are, but just stating this has been my only experience thus far.

I also haven't the time to post now, will be on again to write more later.
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posted November 25, 2004 07:38 PM
Edited By: Shiva on 25 Nov 2004

Quote:


I would really love to hear more from other members about this, specifically:

Do you feel that QP's should be given out less/more?

In which forums and why?

Do you feel that if you have a problem you can approach the moderators of that forum about it?

What would you suggest as one thing that the moderators could do to improve Heroes Community?


QP: I post here(mostly OSOTM) because there are lively discussions about meaningful topics with intelligent people. I would be lieing if I said I weren't aware of QP's , but getting rewarded for a good post is not my main objective, rather, expressing myself is. So, giving them out more or less is not an issue for me.

I do feel the moderators are approachable and considerate, at least the one's I have met so far.

As to how to improve this place, well, most of the work is already done because of the type of person HC has attracted. One only has to take a look at Yahoo to see how message boards can degenerate. So basically I would say, continue as you are, stay open, listen to what everyone says, and act as the good folks you already are.
If I could, I would give the whole community a QP

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posted November 25, 2004 07:59 PM

I agree with Shiva.

I have found that when I think of HC, it goes alot broader than simple HoMM. We have plenty of intelligent conversations about a variety of subjects.
Frankly, it stimulates my mind and I like the people's ideas and ways of thinking even if they are in contrast with mine.

I really like this board and find that I am doing everything I can to better it as I think it is very enriching (is that a word; it is in french!). So to that end, I will try to answer Pandora's questions to the members:
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Do you feel that QP's should be given out less/more?

No, not at all. 2% I think is a good number. It keeps us struggling to reach it.
I think it is not evenly distributed (see next question)
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In which forums and why?

1- Too many Qp's in the Glade. It's a RPG forum... c'mon, the ideas are good for RPG, but bring small contribution to HC
2- Not enough in the Library. As an example, I've read that mods want to hear input as to where to give QP's... well, Consis started a thread about Angelito needing a QP a very long time ago. And we all have been posting in it in favor. No comments from the mods though - that's a problem. If they don't want to give one out, they should let us know to show us they even care about what we think.
3- It's to bad because since I am looking for stars (I won't hide it) I don't post in the library any more.

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Do you feel that if you have a problem you can approach the moderators of that forum about it?

That depends witch mod and so witch forum. I know for a fact that I can't approach a mod from the library as I have tried and nothing happened. But on the other side, you Pandora and Khaelo are doing a great job and are interested in what members say.

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What would you suggest as one thing that the moderators could do to improve Heroes Community?

moderators should cover other forums if the mods of those forums aren't present enough to do a good mod job.
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Khaelo
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posted November 25, 2004 11:56 PM

I acknowledged that the technology places the QPs in moderators' hands.  I don't like that system.  There are a number of sub-opinions on this -- mods' varying acceptance of community input, shallow investment of the community in input, etc. -- which have been scatttered through my posts.  A complete, organized essay in this thread seems a bit excessive.  Short version: the passage you quote is not a retraction but a discussion of another aspect.

As a member, I basically ignored QPs as arbitrary and unpredictable.  For a mod, it's part of the territory.  Some members really do pay attention to QPs.  I am trying to deal with this as best I can, trying to make QPs less arbitrary, change things that go wrong, and so on.  It's not always successful.  It actually seems to flop on a regular basis.  That doesn't mean the effort wasn't there.

For the record, slow as I am with the bonus button, over the summer, I did star posts with which I disagreed but which were well-done.  The citations escape me now, but Khayman got one of those.  RSF has gotten another (retroactively).  The situation is not as dire as one might think.

I said all I could about teamwork.

If this post comes off harsh, it's because constant agreement gets boring.  
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posted November 26, 2004 12:47 AM

Do you feel that QP's should be given out less/more? More. It's nearly impossible to get a QP. IMAO, it should be as easy to get +QP as -QP.

In which forums and why? Glade. There are so many good posts there.

Do you feel that if you have a problem you can approach the moderators of that forum about it? Yes.

What would you suggest as one thing that the moderators could do to improve Heroes Community? Allow members to give other members +QPs. Only make these 0.1 of a QP. Ten member qp = 1 normal QP.
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posted November 26, 2004 02:12 AM

While the idea in theory sounds nice Mvass, that kind of system would be potentially open to abuse.

While we're hearing a lot of times that members would like awarding QP's to be more accessible - and we as Mods encourage members to nominate others for QP's, in practise this seldom happens, Concis being the only member that consistently does it in my view.

One solution would be a dedicated sticky thread for each forum outside of that forum's feedback thread where members can do this and they know exactly how to go about it.

I think the recent upsurge of suggestions is healthy and will make HC a better place, keep em coming guys
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posted November 26, 2004 08:13 AM bonus applied.
Edited By: Leo_Lion on 26 Nov 2004

Qs and Ps up the ying-yang!

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I got some critism about the whole giving out system.
1) People never get QP:s if they are on opposite side of an issue then the moderators in a discussion
2) Starting threads

#1- I think Sir_Stiven should get a QP for the Post he wrote earlier discussing the issues I quoted above. His arguments were valid, in depth, and were bravely presented for everyone's consideration, including Moderators.

#2- I agree with mvassilev that getting QPs is very difficult. I have written some pretty heady stuff that even Frank Herbert would be proud of and have gotten good responses from other members, on occasion, and have heard nothing at all on other occasions. I am getting a little discouraged, but will persist nonetheless in my goal for QPs, with LichKing as my inspiration! (How does he do it?!)

#3- I would like to know if it is possible to request a "review" of a particular Post by a Moderator, to determine if it is worth a QP or not, and then have them say: "Yes, this was overlooked. QP Awarded!" or "No. This Post is not worthy of a QP because..."

#4- Following Asmodean's suggestion, I would like to share a long winded idea with you all:

*Valeriy, create a new position in league with the Moderators and call it the Quality Point "Specialist" or "Moderator". This unbiased, neutral, & objective individual would be a separate entity from the other Mods, in the sense that they would not "monitor" any Forum at all, but they would have "Offical Status" just like a Moderator. The QPS or QPM's sole responsibilty would be to manage "Quality Point Requests" from members of HC.

This works by having an HC member that deemed a specific Post worthy of a QP; post a message on that thread saying "QP Request submitted to the QPS/QPM". After that, this same member would have to send an email to the QPS/QPM with a link to the Thread, the name of the author of the Post, a quick quote of it, and a brief explanation of why the member deems it QP worthy. (Sort of like I did for Sir_Stiven above)

From here, the QPS/M would review the Thread and the Post in question, and would then post their response to the "QP Request" by saying: "Yes, this is a Quality Post that deserves a Quality Point. Congratulations!" OR "No. This Post is not worthy of a QP because..."

If ever the subject of the Post was beyond the QPS/M's realm of understanding or knowledge, they could always confer with the other Moderators for asistance...over donuts, no less!

Following this idea, if ever a member found another's specific Post offensive or vulgar, they could email the QPS/M and request a DISCREET "Minus QP Review".

In no way would this new position undermine the Moderators' current authority, because these fine people would still be able to award or remove a QP "on-the-spot", edit Posts, or move them to the Wastelands, within their own Forums. So, if ever a "QPR" or a "MQPR" were submitted to the QPS/M and a Moderator from that specific Forum had already taken action, then it would end there. But, if that Moderator had not yet taken action and the QPS/M made a decision, that would also be that! Let's face it, the Mods have lives and don't have a chance to read every Post & Thread on a daily basis...At least I hope not!

The logic behind this idea should serve everyone's best interest, while meeting specific individual's demands:

(Sir_Stiven) This QPS/M would operate primarily on an independant basis with no specific interest in a particular Forum, and so, they would not hold back any QPs on the basis of a member being on the opposite side of an issue with a Moderator.

(mvassilev, Khaelo & Asmodean) In essence, the onus of awarding the majority of QPs would fall on HC members because they would have to submit the QPRs instead of waiting for a Mod to come around and stumble on to the Post in question.

(Sir_Stiven) Due to the amount of time that the "QP Review" would undoubtably take and to the fact that it must be requested by another member posting in that same Thread, you would see less QPs awarded as soon as a Thread is created. Instead, it would have time to flourish or develop into a meaningful discussion.

(Conan) If the Mods in a particular Forum seemed absent, there would be no problem, because the QPS/M has the ability to award or substract QPs in any Forum.

(Sir_Stiven) The subject of QPs would have a more "transparent" aspect and would be discussed more often, because the QPS/M would have to justify his decisions in a Post on the Thread in question, for everyone to see.

(Pandora) With the majority of QPRs being submitted by HC members directly to the QPS/M, there would be a great dialogue between both parties regarding QPs, as the member would have to briefly explain thier support of the Post and the QPS/M would have to justify their decision. Through this process, the QPS/M could bring valuable insight to the other Moderators regarding HC's general opinion of QPs! A sort of pulse, if you will...

(Khaelo & Sir_Stiven) Creating a QPS/M would be a great way of changing a System that you both agree has "bugs" and that doesn't seem to have changed for the better over time.

(Shiva & Conan) This new postion would allow people to quickly deal with QP issues and continue doing what you both seem to enjoy...Expressing yourselves! The QPS/M would give HC a flow that would allow it to persist as a great Discussion Board for a long time to come.

(Khaelo) There would be no need for new technology to come into use in this scenario. As long as we have #1 - Members, #2 - Threads, #3 - Posts, and finaly #4 - Email; the QPS/M could do their job efficiently!

To paraphrase Conan, "I have learned that it is not enough to simply point out problems, but that one must also offer solutions". Well, I'm going to take that one step further and say "Pointing out problems is one thing, and offering solutions is another. But taking charge and FIXING it is everything!" So, I am throwing in my hat to become this Quality Point Specialist/Moderator, in the hopes that something will be done to resolve most QP issues. Having studied in Communications at University, I consider myself fair, intelligent, communicable, and can be as objective as the best of em'! So, if Valeriy is willing, I am ready & able to assume the position of QPS/M!
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posted November 26, 2004 11:20 PM

Some Input.....

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Do you feel that QP's should be given out less/more?

More. I've made at least three threads that take special notice of certain member's exceptionally profound posts. None of them have received qp's. I fully understand that it is all based on my opinion and I am not a moderator.
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In which forums and why?

Altar, Other Side, and Library....for reasons so many people already know and because of what I said a few lines above.
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Do you feel that if you have a problem you can approach the moderators of that forum about it?

All but the mods in the Library. If they're busy in real life then I suggest they give the job to someone who can meet the requirements of being a Mod.....someone like Angelito.
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What would you suggest as one thing that the moderators could do to improve Heroes Community?

Library: Show up for work once in a while.

ToH: Uh...I'm too afraid to go back in there. I gave up on them a long time ago.

Altar: No changes needed

Glade: No changes needed

Tavern: Pandora is the Goddess(no changes needed)

Wastelands: No changes needed

Other Side: No changes needed

Tribunal: No changes needed
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posted November 27, 2004 08:53 PM

As for Stefan's questions, yes it is definately a problem if the reason for not awarding a QP is solely that the post disagrees with a moderator. If the post wouldn't merit a QP either way, then I see no reason why moderators should feel obliged to QP a post only because it disagrees with them.

What do I feel we should do about it?
a) We should keep talking.
b) We should keep listining.

I feel that's really all we can do, I believe that the lines of communication should always be open. And I feel that we are doing a pretty good job on that, maybe you don't see it - but it is happening, and I think our mods are committed to improving the community.

Conan, please don't stop posting in the Library just because you feel you won't receive QP there. Remember that QP can be given at any time, I have QP'd one post that was two years old when I found it during my cleaning. The Library is a great forum for sharing your ideas about HoMM, don't abandon it

I think that any poster that feels obliged to move to posting in a new forum because there is a lack of QP given in the ones they presently post in should speak up. Maybe the moderators didn't notice a post, it happens. If you feel that you're not being heard or are not comfortable posting here, then come to another moderator and we will raise the issue in the mod-squad, don't just abandon the forum- the community needs posters!

Thanks to everyone who has offered support and their opinions here! Let's hear more
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terje_the_mad_wizard


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posted November 27, 2004 09:55 PM

Some more input...

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Do you feel that QP's should be given out less/more?

More in some, less in others.
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In which forums and why?

More in OSotM. Some are complaining about partisan QPs there, but I've gotten the impression that there is one leftie and one rightie moderating OSotM, so I guess it evens out...
Less in Glade. This is ofc imo; I haven't been there a lot, but I don't really see how a RPG post can be among the top 2% of HC (if someone do, please explain?). I can understand that someone is rewarded if they constantly work to make the RPGs function for others, but not else.
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Do you feel that if you have a problem you can approach the moderators of that forum about it?

Hmm. I never felt I've had a problem here at HC, but I guess I could approach them. IMs if it was sensitive, in feed-back threads if not.
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What would you suggest as one thing that the moderators could do to improve Heroes Community?

I like it the way it is.
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Consis
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posted November 27, 2004 10:59 PM
Edited By: Consis on 25 Dec 2004

A Note About The Glade:

I'm not so sure if some members who don't really visit certain forums are qualified to say whether the quality posts from that forum are worthy. I think it would almost be like a strictly Other-Side-visiting-member saying that Glade Qp's aren't worthy because they don't talk about Other Side topics. But really, isn't that why we have the different forums? And isn't it also why we have a special moderator for each forum? In fact couldn't we say that the exact opposite of the Other Side is the Bard's Glade? In the Other side they talk about real-life things. In the Glade they make it all up and imagine fantastically contrived plots.

I would argue to leave the qp-awarding to each respective forum's moderator. I think Valeriy has chosen each individual moderator for their respective jobs because he knows they have a special understanding of that forum. Some moderators may work on more than one forum and that's fine as long as Valeriy maintains their understanding of that forum. It's Valeriy's Message board and I think he's done a great job(excluding a limited amount of smileys), especially with choosing who to moderate. It's obvious that he doesn't simply accept anyone. I think he makes an educated/well-informed decision.
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posted November 27, 2004 11:14 PM

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I'm not so sure if some members who don't really visit certain forums are qualified to say whether the quality posts from that forum are worthy. I think it would almost be like a strictly Other-Side-visiting-member saying that Glade Qp's aren't worthy because they don't talk about Other Side topics. But really, isn't that why we have the different forums? And isn't it also why we have a special moderator for each forum? In fact couldn't we say that the exact opposite of the Other Side is the Bard's Glade? In the Other side they talk about real-life things. In the Glade they make it all up and imagine fantastically contrived plots.

Even though it doesn't look like it in my last post, I agree with this.
If people (like me) say they're not much in a subforum (like the Glade), then just ignore or put less significance (sp?) into their opinions...
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posted November 27, 2004 11:24 PM

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Do you feel that QP's should be given out less/more?

I think there should be given out more in Other Side.
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In which forums and why?

More in Other side, because some of the posts there are great! I like the way it is in glade.
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Do you feel that if you have a problem you can approach the moderators of that forum about it?

When i started here i had a problem, but it's ok now, the mods are somewhat more fair then they seem.
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What would you suggest as one thing that the moderators could do to improve Heroes Community?

Well... in some parts of the Community i would like to see the Mods a bit more alive, maybe start some discussion threads most people can participate in.
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posted November 27, 2004 11:29 PM

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I don't really see how a RPG post can be among the top 2% of HC (if someone do, please explain?)
I think I can see where this is coming from. I have seen how roleplays work on some other forums. However, HC's roleplays are quite different. While in other places a roleplay is a bland copy of RL pen-and-paper roleplaying, ours is closer in form to co-written stories that anyone can join. You cannot deny the quality of a decent piece of fanfiction. How can you then deny the quality of a roleplay post?
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