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posted December 05, 2004 03:15 AM

I once dreamt of being a vampire. I had to kill few of my relatives and friends in that dream, cos I needed blood. And it felt terrible.
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posted December 05, 2004 03:30 AM

There are a few relatives of mind whom I won't mourn too long once gone...But it would be very painful losing any of my loved ones.  I'm sure I would not hesitate to die in many of their places.  But death takes those he wants...
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posted December 05, 2004 04:41 AM
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But people you are forgeting something.....if you become a vampire "you" will be gone and your soul will be replaced with that of a demon...........plus you will have to constantly deal with Sarah Michele Gelar(sp?) and her scooby gang trying to kill you!!!
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posted December 05, 2004 04:48 AM

I can handle her.  ..if she can handle me.
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posted December 05, 2004 12:19 PM

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I once dreamt of being a vampire. I had to kill few of my relatives and friends in that dream, cos I needed blood. And it felt terrible.

I've had a couple like that myself, and it wasn't comfy. Running around in this old isolated farmhouse all night, with five vampires searching for you...
Brrrr! Nasty dream...
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posted December 05, 2004 12:49 PM

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But people you are forgeting something.....if you become a vampire "you" will be gone and your soul will be replaced with that of a demon...........plus you will have to constantly have to deal with Sarah Michele Gelar(sp?) and her scooby gang trying to kill you!!!


Yeah but u can have BloodRayne...yummy...
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posted December 05, 2004 06:47 PM

lol, just as there are positive sides and negative sides to being human there are positive and negative sides to being a vampire/vampiress.
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posted December 05, 2004 07:13 PM
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If anyone offered me to be a Vampire, I'd take it in a second.
Are you kidding? eternal life, living in a big house, doing what you want all day, power, need I say more?
Are you serious with that?

@Deathshadow: there is no vampiress^^ that word does not exist  Vampire is genderless

I personally wouldn't want to be a Vampire. Don't think so - sure having an eternal life without age negging your body would be nice - and Vampires are stronger than normal humans - that sure is nice, too. But that dependency for blood is not what I would want. I you are a Vampire like in ye olde movies with living in a castle and being a lord/cout/whatever would surely be nice^^ you could still your hunger for blood first and than having great parties at night Well, but I mentioned before, why I wouldnt like to be a Vamp
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posted December 05, 2004 08:22 PM

A Vampire is NOT genderless, and to be true there only is ONE vampire.

Anyone heard of The Impaler?
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posted December 05, 2004 08:33 PM

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A Vampire is NOT genderless, and to be true there only is ONE vampire.

Anyone heard of The Impaler?
Maybe you missunderstood me. I did not say that vamps are impotent, only that the word is genderless.
What tess you that there is only one vampire?

And what is the Impaler?

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posted December 05, 2004 08:52 PM

The Impaler is what Vlad Tepes was commonly known as. Apparently he's had lots of people impaled, hence the "nickname". Later, based on said person, Count Dracula was created.
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posted December 05, 2004 08:52 PM

You really can look at it both ways.  Both words exist and both mean some sort of feared blood sucking night creature.
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posted December 05, 2004 08:53 PM

Who is Vlad Tepes?^^

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posted December 05, 2004 08:54 PM

Vlad the Impaler .. AKA Dracula.

He is the one and only vampire, if we have to stick to it. He has a gender, he is MALE. He has some mistresses which are FEMALE.

This is the True story of Dracula and vampires.. at the least it was the first.

As you may well know, author Bram Stoker (1847-1912) based the title character of his 1897 novel Dracula on an actual human being, or should we say inhuman being.  This is not an easy task, tell you about him, considering the amount of vampire lore which has imbibed our culture since Dracula was first published in 1897.

Even if you haven't yet read Stoker's novel, and seen the stage play which came after, you have probably seen some of the many films based on his character. Some of the most important cinematic adaptations are F.W. Murnau's 1922 masterpiece "Nosferatu", which was loosely based on Dracula but subjected to a "makeover" for copyright reasons, Todd Browning's "Dracula", which starred Bela Lugosi, a Romanian actor who had previously incarnated the titular character on the stage, and would forever be remembered, and unfortunately typecast as Dracula; the British Hammer Films releases of the 70s, which starred Christopher Lee as a sexier, and far more violent vampire.  While there were others in between, one of the most interesting, although flawed adaptation, of Dracula was Francis Ford Coppola's 1992 release, "Bram Stoker's Dracula".  Coppola's version is noteworthy for it's inclusion of the "Order of the Dracul", which cleverly interwove the fictional vampire with the historical figure.

What is interesting to note, is that Stoker's vampire, while being loosely based on Vlad the Impaler, is nowhere near as threatening, nor as sadistic.  Stoker's Dracula is a mysterious, somewhat sensual character who kills and feeds to survive, much like any being in nature.  In fact, as much as there is reference to the evil of Dracula, it can be reasoned that all of his actions were motivated by survival. Vlad the Impaler, on the other hand, killed not to feed, but to revel in his own power, and just for the sheer pleasure of seeing the suffering of his numerous victims. We will attempt to put together as accurate a portrait of the man as available documentation permits, his life, loves, enemies, and all of his infamous deeds.

Vlad the Impaler wasn't a "real" vampire, but he probably caused more rivers of blood to flow than any other tyrant in the history of the world. Bear in mind that there are many versions of Vlad the Impaler's life story, and there are no entirely accurate ones.  We have cross referenced every detail to try and bring you what we believe is the most accurate portrait of a man who keeps inspiring fear into each and every new generation.  In this website, you will learn how Vlad Dracula came to be known as "the Impaler", you will also be able to read Bram Stoker's Dracula, and you will be shown an open door to the most interesting and accurate resources on Vlad the Impaler and  Dracula, from books, to movies, to websites.


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posted December 05, 2004 08:56 PM
Edited By: TheRealDeal on 5 Dec 2004

Biography

Vlad the Impaler, a.k.a. Vlad III, Dracula, Drakulya,  or Tepes, was born in late 1431, in the citadel of Sighisoara, Transylvania, the son of  Vlad II or Dracul, a military governor, appointed by Holy Roman Emperor Sigismund.  Vlad Dracul was also a knight in the Order of the Dragon, a secret fraternity created in 1387 by the Emperor, sworn to uphold Christianity and defend the empire against the Islamic Turks.  Transylvania, along with Moldavia, and Wallachia, are now joined together as Romania. The name Dracul can be interpreted in two ways, the first translation from Romanian would be "Dragon", but it sometimes also means "Devil".  Vlad was not called Tepes, which means ""spike" in Romanian, until after his death;  instead, he was known as Vlad Dracula, the added "a" meaning "son of", so essentially, throughout his life, he was known as the "son of the Devil".
While growing up with such a name would normally present problems for most of us, Vlad certainly did not seem to mind, as he really did live up to his title; but before we look upon the exploits of the son, let us learn a bit more about the father.  In 1436, Vlad Dracul took over the throne of Wallachia, taking up residence in the palace of Tirgoviste.  It was there young Vlad Dracula would get his first taste of the opulent lifestyle, and perhaps also where the beast within would begin to grow.  Merely two years later, in a strange turn of events, Vlad II betrayed the Order of the Dracul, forming an alliance with the Turks.  He even went as far as allowing Sultan Murad II to keep his two sons, Vlad Dracula, and his younger brother Radu, as "insurance" that he would not plan to strike against the Turks.

In the winter of 1447, Vlad Dracul was assassinated in a coup orchestrated by one of his relatives, John Hunyadi, who had devoted his life to fighting the Ottoman Turks, and did not approve of Vlad Dracul's pro-Turkish policy.  Vlad Dracula was granted his freedom following his father's death, but Radu decided to stay behind.  In addition to learning of his father's demise, Vlad was also told his older brother, Mircea had had his eyes gouged out, and been buried alive by the boyars of Tirgoviste. While in captivity, Vlad had grown resentful, and vowed to have his revenge.  

The throne of Wallachia, which would have normally been reserved for Vlad Dracula, was now occupied by the boyars. The still teenaged Vlad Dracula, with the help of Pasha Mustafa Hassan' Turkish cavalry, defeated the boyars, reclaiming the throne for a very short period of time, as Hunyadi would soon thereafter appoint Vladislav II to the post.  Vlad Dracula formed an alliance with Hunyadi, in the hopes of persuading him he was the rightful heir to the throne, but it wasn't until 1456, that Vlad Dracula would make his move, killing his father's murderer, and defeating Vladislav II, to take over as the new ruler of Wallachia.  In 1569, following an Easter Sunday feast, Vlad Dracula had all the boyar families who had been attending arrested.  Those who were in good health were condemned to a life of slavery, and put to work on the construction of his Poenari Castle on the Arges river. Those who were old and weak were impaled for all to see.  Thus began Vlad the Impaler's reign of blood and terror.  


Construction of the castle was difficult work, and many of the slaves died in the process.  Many were forced to work naked, for their clothes had fallen off from wear. Needless to say, Vlad Dracula in no way considered these people human beings, and he treated them worse than animals, severely punishing and torturing his captives, whether or not they had done anything to provoke him.  He abhorred weakness of any kind, and was determined to be the ruler of a Kingdom which would only be host to the rich and powerful.    
One day, Vlad Dracula decided to cleanse his Kingdom of those he considered to be lazy and unproductive, those who suffered from illness, a handicap, or were simply born in poverty.  He decreed that no one should go hungry in his Kingdom, and invited all the poor, unfortunate souls who tainted his concept of what society should be to a banquet in the great hall in Tirgoviste. Once he felt his "guests" had been well fed, not to mention drunk and complacent, Vlad made his appearance, asking them how they would enjoy never having to feel the pain of hunger ever again, or if they wished to never have to worry about anything ever again, to be without a care in the world.

Of course, their reply was enthusiastic, so he obliged, ordering his men to board up the hall, which was then set ablaze.  No one escaped.  Vlad Dracula's treatment of his own subjects paled in comparison to the atrocities he committed against his enemies, and any who opposed him.  On St. Bartholomew's Day, he impaled 30,000 merchants for disobeying trade laws, having their bodies left to rot outside the city walls as a reminder of what would happen to any who disobeyed him.  

Rumours abound that Vlad also ate the flesh, and drank the blood of his enemies, often holding dinner parties next to the freshly impaled.  He was very proud of his work, and anyone who showed disdain while looking upon the thousands of putrefying corpses would soon suffer the same fate.  Vlad liked to arrange the impaled in circular patterns, the length of the stakes determined by the victim's rank; this way, wealthy, or powerful opponents would plainly see they were not above the law.  Impalements were carried out in a variety of ways,

During his reign, Vlad Dracula also had people decapitated, had their eyes gouged out, had them skinned alive, boiled, burnt, dismembered, eviscerated, or sometimes just physically disfigured for his own amusement.  In one particular incident, Turkish ambassadors who had refused to remove their Phrygian caps in his presence were asked why they insulted him in such a manner. When they replied it was because their hats had to remain on their heads according to custom, he graciously honored their tradition by ordering their hats permanently nailed to their heads, never to be removed again.  

Vlad Dracula's tyranny was such that none dared break any laws in his land, for fear of being punished or killed.  He even had his mistress disemboweled publicly for having lied about being pregnant with his child.  Vlad enjoyed torturing and killing women, often mutilating their breasts and sexual organs in the process. He is even rumored to have forced mothers to eat their own babies.  In order to impress visiting dignitaries with the efficiency of his methods at promoting order, he had a gold cup placed on display in the center of central square of Tirgoviste, unguarded from any thief that would fancy stealing it during the night.  The cup remained, as no one would have been so foolish as to risk impalement for being caught stealing.
Impalement was a particularly horrible way to die, Victims were either impaled from the anus or in the case of women, the vagina, but rarely from the mouth, as this usually meant a quicker death.  The impaled would then be hoisted up, their own weight dragging them down upon the thick stakes, the process sometimes taking several hours.  Vlad Dracula was only referred to as the Impaler sometime after his death, a "title" he would have probably liked to have held during his six year reign, for the number of those who suffered this cruel fate at his hands may number well into the hundreds of thousands.

Vlad may have been a fearsome conqueror, but he was not infallible.  In 1461, he took on the Turks from the Danube River Valley, but ultimately failed to subdue them, outnumbered by Sultan Mehmed II's army.  Determined to kill the Sultan, Vlad Dracula staged a nightly raid on his settlement, but he attacked the wrong tent, leaving the Sultan enraged, and vowing revenge.  He ordered his men to invade Wallachia, forcing Dracula's army to retreat towards Tirgoviste.  Not wanting to leave anything for the Sultan and his army, Vlad destroyed his Kingdom village by village, burning them to the ground, and poisoning their wells.  Furthermore, when the Sultan arrived at Wallachia, he was shocked by finding a virtual forest of the impaled, thousands of dead Turkish prisoners whose bodies were slowly decomposing in the sun, the stench of it all permeating the air.

Vlad's time-tested scare tactics had a profound effect on the tired and hungry Sultan and his army.  He abandoned the campaign, but he would later retaliate by sending Vlad Dracula's own brother to pick up where he left off.  Radu and his men pursued Vlad to Poenari Castle on the Arges river.  Dracula's wife, fearful of being captured by the Turks, jumped to her death from one of the battlement towers. Dracula himself fled through a secret passageway, which he used to get to the mountains.  Seeking refuge in Transylvania, Vlad met with King Matthias Corvinus, but the latter had heard of Vlad's wicked ways, and had him imprisoned at Visegrad, the Hungarian capital.  

Eventually, Vlad Dracula was allowed to come and go as he pleased, since there had been no definite terms for his imprisonment, and so long as he would report to King Matthias on a regular basis.  He was also given his own dwellings in the palace, far from the musty dungeons.  But Vlad continued to secretly indulge his hunger for blood, and occasionally, one would find small animals such as rats, cats, and even insects, impaled on sticks.  But Vlad had managed to gain the King's confidence, and he was often a guest at the various banquets and social functions at the palace.  He even got married to the King's cousin, Countess Ilona Szilagy, with whom he had two children.

For over nine years, Vlad had more or less remained in King Matthias' custody, while his brother Radu occupied the throne of Wallachia.  But contrary to what one might assume, Vlad Dracula was still somewhat respected by some of his former subjects; after all, he had successfully defeated the Turks on many occasions, and had managed to create an orderly society, free of crime.  Radu on the other hand, had lost favor with the Boyars for his concessions to the Ottoman Turks, not to mention King Matthias himself,  and his treachery to the Order of the Dracul.  The time had come for Vlad to reclaim his throne, and King Matthias, along with Prince Stefan Bathory of Transylvania, would join forces with Vlad to overthrow Radu, and more importantly, to defeat the Turks.
After months of successful attacks on Turkish settlements from Dracula and his 5000 man strong Christian Army, Sultan Mehmed II's forces were sufficiently weakened, but Vlad never had the satisfaction of personally dethroning his brother, for the latter had died of syphilis, and been replaced by Prince Basarab the Old, two years ealier.  After having subdued, burnt, and of course, impaled thousands of Turks, Vlad and his men returned to Romania.  It is interesting to note that this time around, Vlad's favorite method of killing was officially sanctioned by the Vatican, as he was, after all, impaling the foes of the Catholic Church in the name of God.

Once again, Vlad Dracula occupied the throne of Wallachia, but things would never be the same.  Even if he was officially sanctioned by King Matthias and the Church, many of the Boyars had not forgotten his ruthless ways.   Sultan Mehmed II was restless in his determination to regain power over Wallachia and return Basarab to the throne. The Boyars, knowing the possible pitfalls of living under Dracula's rule, were perhaps more open to the idea of Basarab's return than they should have been. Word that Sultan Mehmed was organizing his forces in Bucharest reached Prince Stefan's ears, and he asked Vlad Dracula to organize an army to defeat the Sultan's, but of the Boyars joined him, and he found himself in a precarious position he had never been in before, undermanned, and expected by the enemy.

Without the element of surprise on his side, Vlad knew the battle ahead would be difficult.  Furthermore, additional troops promised to him by Prince Stefan failed to show, and Vlad was left with just a few thousand men to combat the Sultan's army, which had grown quite considerably large.  Vlad Dracula, ever the fearless warrior, fought against overwhelming odds, refusing to accept defeat, but the reality of it all was that they were outnumbered, and would eventually meet their doom.  There is much speculation as to what happened to Vlad the Impaler in his final battle.  Some say he died at the hands of his own men, as he was mistaken for a Turk while disguised in one of their uniforms, while others say he was killed, and decapitated, his dead body only recognizable by the vestments and medallions he was wearing.

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posted December 06, 2004 12:43 AM

Nice try, but that story relates to Dracula, not vampires.
Vampires were creatures from Eastern European folklore, and are known since very old times. There are different versions, and they sometimes depict vampires as invisible, flying, magical etc.
For example, my granma told me stories how her granma had been afraid from vampires at night, whenever they would hear a sound. So the kids (my grnama) used to make creepy sounds just to scare her. Now, I ensure you that my great-great-granma HADNT read Dracula, nor had she ever heard about him.
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posted December 06, 2004 01:42 AM

great story awards to the both of you.  But I find it funny that we are all fighting over our own ideas of something that isn't real.
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posted December 06, 2004 01:43 AM

Isn't real? ISN'T REAL? Next you'll be saying that Santa isn't real, or fairies! Did you know that a fairy dies every time you say that? YOU MONSTER!
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posted December 06, 2004 01:49 AM

How many times do I have to say that for Santa?
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posted December 06, 2004 01:52 AM

lol, anyways, even if they are real (your right, prob are) We don't know enought to make up so many stories on em, so we should show our opinions, not fight over em.
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