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Azagal
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posted February 05, 2012 03:24 AM |
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Thats very kind of you . It would make more sense though if I had any idea who you were lol. You seem to have made an apperance after my disapperance... so all I do know about you is that you have an impeccable sense of timing.
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DagothGares
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posted February 05, 2012 03:30 AM |
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His name is Wesley. 
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Damacon_Ace
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posted February 06, 2012 09:52 AM |
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According to South Park, this activity is the domain of Saddam Hussein!
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OhforfSake
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posted February 07, 2012 10:36 AM |
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I honestly think there's nothing wrong with masturbation. Though I personally prefer if people do it privately, I don't expect people to respect that opinion.
That does not mean you can't find similarities between the act of self pleasuring and acts linked with the ways of the Devil.
From my perspective, the method of the Devil is always a kind of trickery. The best example would be a free willed soul addicted to something. Despite having free will, the promise of good and the promise of bad combined makes the poor person keep doing this something, eventhough the person does not want to.
The same can to a large extend be said about masturbation for one simple reason, would you masturbate if you had no emotions regarding the act of masturbation?
Now one might think you could just as well make such an argument for food or breathing, but unlike masturbation, the individuals survival depends on food and breathing. It's something we're to a large extend forced to do. Masturbation is something we're at a large extend tricked to do.
Trying to think about it from a society level, a person without any emotions connected to masturbation seems superior. This person does not spend ~1-2 hours every day with such self pleasuring ways. These 1-2 hours will most likely be a waste, because unlike sex which creates an increase in the human population, which is likely to increase the chance of progress, especially during the times where people more often would believe in the Devil existing, these 1-2 hours spend will result in nothing except for self pleasure. This self pleasure is a subjective value, only the person who masturbates can register this value using senses alone, it does not effect the real world and in turn 1-2 hours have been wasted, from that angle.
So the act of masturbation being the Devils way does not only fit in the way of trickery as presented by emotions similar to some cases of addiction, but it does also fit in the way, that it ingulfs a person in a non-objective world for no productive reason.
I can therefore easily imagine the act of masturbation would be a kind of betrayal of ones responsibility to ones family back in those times. You needed to work a lot to survive and running into your own little world for 1-2 hours for nothing else than self pleasuring, despite not wanting to if those emotions weren't there to trick you, which given the guilt linked to the act, would be something the masturbator would probably agree with after the act, could jepordize those you really cared about. Some times at least.
Even doing it during the night would likely be bad, because at those times there weren't as much possible sleep as today, so it'd exhaust you unnecessary.
Why don't I then think there's anything wrong with masturbating, despite, I think, hardly anyone would masturbate without the reward linked with doing it and the distraction linked with not doing it? Because I believe
1) People have the right to throw away their own life if they want to.
2) People hardly gets hurt by throwing away 1-2 hours a day in these times.
All in all, it just goes to show that despite females often have been thought as weaker than men, especially emotionally, woman are those who masturbate less than men. That is despite woman orgasm is said to be potentially a higher reward than mens orgasm and that many woman typically won't find it nearly as easy to get off, giving a higher distraction level. I believe the reason for this misconception is because woman being mentally stronger also are more mentally challenged. Emotions runs havoc in their body in ways a man would probably succumb to and despite occasional loss of control, the woman seems able to hold up the facade. On the other hand, it does not take much emotional turmult for a man to run away.
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meroe
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posted February 07, 2012 01:52 PM |
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I've heard about this theory ... that a woman's orgasm is more powerful than a man's. I can see the reason for this, even though I'm not totally convinced.
I mean .. why not. In fact, hell yes! We have far more to lose, so its only right we get the better payout. I mean - pregnancy, having your body disorted hideously, wrecked in a lot of cases - childbirth. Hours and hours of pain and then after that having to pass something the size of melon through a tiny orifice. Not to mention forceps, episiotomy and stitches!! Seriously you guys have no idea.
Damn right we should have a bigger, better orgasm. Its the least we should get!
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Darkshadow
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posted February 07, 2012 02:12 PM |
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Damn right we should have a bigger, better orgasm. Its the least we should get!
Yeah, and the amount of work it takes to get that, you can by all means keep it
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meroe
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posted February 07, 2012 02:30 PM |
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Damn right we should have a bigger, better orgasm. Its the least we should get!
Yeah, and the amount of work it takes to get that, you can by all means keep it
Damn right there DS You guys should absolutely work your butts off to make sure we have a good time. 
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Meroe is definetely out, sweet
as she sounds sometimes, she'd
definetely castrate you with a
rusted razror and forcefeed
your genitals to you in a
blink of an eye - Kipshasz
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Darkshadow
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posted February 07, 2012 02:40 PM |
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Damn right we should have a bigger, better orgasm. Its the least we should get!
Yeah, and the amount of work it takes to get that, you can by all means keep it
You guys should absolutely work your butts off to make sure we have a good time.
But how would that help you?
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meroe
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posted February 07, 2012 02:41 PM |
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I admit, I am confused 
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Meroe is definetely out, sweet
as she sounds sometimes, she'd
definetely castrate you with a
rusted razror and forcefeed
your genitals to you in a
blink of an eye - Kipshasz
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OhforfSake
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posted February 07, 2012 03:51 PM |
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But an orgasm is nothing more, but a passing emotion. Much like the satisfaction of itching, comfort, warmth or sneezing, just enhanced in various degree depending on the person in question. After all, how strong your orgasm is depends a lot on how you percieve yourself, your life and your partner. Not to mention your actual physical condition plays a part as well. Still I'd say the power of the orgasm is much more a question of ones mental state. I might be unique in this, but I certainly don't find it orgasm triggering to masturbate to something non sexy and what I find sexy depends a lot about my world view and my world view is what I decide. It does not mean that an orgasm cannot be the result of purely physical stimuli. Some people actually suffer from orgasms or ejaculation triggering from very shallow touching of most parts of their body. This is an illness which is very disabling. Likewise, during rape, rape victims can find themselves having an orgasm against their will, because that is how our body works. It's of course terrible and sadly there are many people who don't understand this part, alienating the victims further who are likely already alienating themselves due to a misunderstood understanding of emotions in general and sexual triggered forms of "feel good" in particular.
Still do you really find it a satisfying trade? Having to risk your life through child labour simply for enhanced orgasms under optimal conditions? Are feelings that important to you? Isn't there more to life than that, or is it that shallow? Is the value of your life decided by electrical inputs to your brains reward center?
As I see it, being satisfied with risk of injury, because you might get to feel good is a very weak argument, because ultimately it leads to drugs.
Not that I think drugs are necessarily bad, if you want to define your life by your emotions, by all means that is your choice.
So, DarkShadow, what do you think about my criticism of you?
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Tsar-Ivor
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posted February 07, 2012 04:15 PM |
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Pfft I still believe that a woman-orgasm is a myth, listening to scientists try and explain it, only enhanced my theory.
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OhforfSake
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posted February 07, 2012 04:22 PM |
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Of course it's a myth. It has even been proven there's no such thing as a g-spot for woman, only men.
All it goes to show is that women have incredible mental abilities. Being able to find a situation horny enough to trigger a non physical orgasm is an incredible display of cognition. Of course saying the trigger is non-physical does not mean that there's no physical aspect to the mental ability. Good health and often something society appropiate within ones own world view is often required. E.g. a woman who does not like the idea of infidelidy or the idea of a protector, will most likely only gain injury from affairs outside of real bonds of love.
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JollyJoker
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posted February 07, 2012 04:39 PM |
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All it goes to show is that women have incredible mental abilities. Being able to find a situation horny enough to trigger a non physical orgasm is an incredible display of cognition.
Not to mention the cognitive monster called "multiple orgasm".
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meroe
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posted February 07, 2012 06:33 PM |
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I can assure you that there is such thing as a female orgasm. What, you think God/Mother Nature/Morgan Freeman only decided that males can have fun???? Tsk tsk.
And also Forfy - its nothing like having a good stratch. Honestly  *shakes head*
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Meroe is definetely out, sweet
as she sounds sometimes, she'd
definetely castrate you with a
rusted razror and forcefeed
your genitals to you in a
blink of an eye - Kipshasz
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wog_edn
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posted February 07, 2012 06:50 PM |
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I am with Meroe, a good female orgasm cannot be described with words (that's at least what I've heard, as I've had to ask).
Also, it ain't that hard work. Just find the button you need to press, women usually have 3 magical ones whichever works best is your job finding out.
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OhforfSake
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posted February 07, 2012 06:58 PM |
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What, you think God/Mother Nature/Morgan Freeman only decided that males can have fun???? Tsk tsk.
There's no creating consciouss being!
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And also Forfy - its nothing like having a good stratch. Honestly *shakes head*
That's not what I meant either. I said it was a passing emotion, then gave examples of other passing emotions and included that an orgasms was more powerful. I.e. a stronger feeling of "good".
Passing emotions means an emotion, at least in this case, is supposed to mean an emotion which have a start and end in time and can be repeated. It's not some kind of everlasting joy (unless it actually gives you some kind of everlasting joy, what do I know, I'm not a woman.. or gay).
@Wog
It's more likely due to the girls you've been with found you incredible sexy. There's no technique which works on all woman (or men for that matter), as such it's more of a mental ability. It does not change that for most woman and men to engage in sex in the first place it's under conditions which satisfy said mental state and as such it might seem like you can induce orgasms through certain techniques.
I'm not saying everything works, of course not, there's certain physical aspects, but the activated senses in those regions would not trigger an orgasm under unwanted means, unless the person is under other certain conditions, such as a lot of stress. Which is why rape victims can experience orgasmn during rape despite it being something they do not want, which only adds to the tragedy, because it makes them alienate themselves due to guilt and without help, they can end up injuring themselves in physical as well as mental ways.
So what I'm saying is that what works for you with your girlfriends, most likely would not work with some random sexy person if that person did not fancy you or to say, wouldn't want to be with you.
Now this is of course a thought up example, because no one would say no to a sexy man beast such as yourself!
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wog_edn
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posted February 07, 2012 07:25 PM |
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There is no absolute technique that is guaranteed to work on everyone, but you have the clitoris, the g-spot and furthest into her vagina .. I have no idea what it is called, but it is magical You just need to get her warmed up, foreplay is very important or it'll just be sex. Good foreplay can lead to a female orgasm within a minute, no foreplay and your girl might not get off within even an hour.
If a person willingly has sex with you chances are they will be able to have an orgasm. It's as simple as that. There are way too many girls never experiencing orgasms because they never experiment and find out what they enjoy themselves .. some girls does not feel too much on the clitoris, others will be hypersensitive. For some the g-spot won't feel any different, for some .. well, you won't need any more lube.
Sex is pretty easy if you know what steps to take .. Just remember good foreplay, a few minutes too much is better than a few minutes too little. If you cannot last long you should at least go down on her or something after you're finished, she should always have an orgasm. But again, experiment. You might find she enjoys something you didn't know, so have an open mind and you'll also have a great time.
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