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angelito
angelito


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Undefeatable Hero
proud father of a princess
posted November 20, 2008 01:46 PM

1. being drunk
2. being dumb
3. playing on swamp without roads
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Hell_Wizard
Hell_Wizard


Famous Hero
posted November 20, 2008 03:08 PM
Edited by Hell_Wizard at 15:09, 20 Nov 2008.

1. Movement (everything about it)
2. - morale (If you mix you'r creatures with the others)
3. Often their specs can't be used
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SAG
SAG


Promising
Supreme Hero
WCL owner
posted November 20, 2008 05:37 PM

lol why should I have any reason to dismiss my Serpent Flies (from Fortress heroes) when I play for Rampart for example???

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Binabik
Binabik


Responsible
Legendary Hero
posted November 20, 2008 07:52 PM

Quote:
7. What are the 3 big reasons to eliminate ALWAYS the non-native creatures of tavern heroes on day one?


Eliminate non-native on your hero or in the garrison?

In the garrison it gives your opponent info about you. What was that thread about it? Something like being a Sherlock....


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Xarfax111
Xarfax111


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Supreme Hero
The last hero standing
posted November 20, 2008 09:05 PM

Quote:
7. What are the 3 big reasons to eliminate ALWAYS the non-native creatures of tavern heroes with single-units on day one?

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Nikita
Nikita


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Meepo is underrated
posted November 21, 2008 01:18 AM

1.they give u terrain penalty
2.lower ur morale
3.give more info at tavern about u

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SAG
SAG


Promising
Supreme Hero
WCL owner
posted November 21, 2008 07:32 AM

I always keep even single non-native units that may be useful on non-native terrains. For example, gremlin or gnoll may be very useful if you will find snow or swamp zones later. So, it's interesting what will be an answer for the question

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Xarfax111
Xarfax111


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Supreme Hero
The last hero standing
posted November 21, 2008 12:45 PM

Quote:
I always keep even single non-native units that may be useful on non-native terrains. For example, gremlin or gnoll may be very useful if you will find snow or swamp zones later. So, it's interesting what will be an answer for the question


...well, a very VALID point you made. THATS WHAT THIS THREAD IS ALL ABOUT! Thanks!

I will answer the question, when i have more time, im on the job at the moment.
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Fank0
Fank0


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posted November 23, 2008 05:06 AM

I still do not get the question here. For me it sounds like "Why should i always dismiss the non-native single units that come with heroes from the third on on day 1?"

Do i understand correctly ?

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Nikita
Nikita


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Meepo is underrated
posted November 23, 2008 05:11 AM

to me it is "Why should u dismiss creatures that are non-native to ur terrain?"

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Xarfax111
Xarfax111


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The last hero standing
posted November 23, 2008 07:20 PM

Quote:
angelito:
1. being drunk
2. being dumb



..although i get the joke, i would beg my left egg that I would get some stupid warnings or even a penalty for stupid comments like this.

Maybe you should one day rethink you acting here, especially when it comes to my person. But i guess this will never happen.
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angelito
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posted November 23, 2008 09:01 PM
Edited by angelito at 21:04, 23 Nov 2008.

A penalty for what reason?

P.S.: Please keep in mind you changed the entire question later on..
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Xarfax111
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The last hero standing
posted November 24, 2008 04:18 PM

7. What are the 3 big reasons to eliminate ALWAYS the non-native creatures of tavern heroes with single-units on day one?

Quote:
1.they give u terrain penalty
2.lower ur morale
3.give more info at tavern about u


I would say this is the correct answer.

1.Terrain Penalty

Although this looks like being obvious, even some experienced player dont dismiss this single unit, to have one more prehit creature. I think the disadvantage of the terrain penalty is far bigger then the "one more prehit" advantage.

2. Morale

Although this looks like being obvious, even some experienced player dont dismiss this single unit, to have one more prehit creature. I think the disadvantage of the "Not having morale" is far bigger then the "one more prehit" advantage. Having morale can sometimes save your ass if wandering creatures did get morale.

3. Townbug

In order to save time peeps dont dismiss their 1 creature from a scout, they put it into the garrisson instead. Sometime to may collect some prehitters from the same alignment. The problem is that the opponent now can do conclusions on your game by using the Townbug and the Taverninfo. Lets say for example, you opponent starts with castle, you started with 6 heroes and he has less then you on the end of they, and you see 2 skeletons and one gremlin in the garrison, you can make the following assumption: Your opponent dont have a defense or offense specialist if not Neela. The two Necro heroes are probably bought cause of resource or spell special...and so on.


Quote:
I always keep even single non-native units that may be useful on non-native terrains. For example, gremlin or gnoll may be very useful if you will find snow or swamp zones later. So, it's interesting what will be an answer for the question


...this looks like a big deal first, but in my eyes its not as big as you might think. The first thing you normally do is to get into the second town, so you use the road and need at least some creatures with you, so no use there. And if you got this town you will find native creatures there. But still a valid point. So what i would do is not to keep the creatures at a hero or at the garrison, i would place them as a guard of a resource mine.




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Xarfax111
Xarfax111


Bad-mannered
Supreme Hero
The last hero standing
posted November 24, 2008 05:00 PM

An old thread but still so vital :)

Quote:
A penalty for what reason?

P.S.: Please keep in mind you changed the entire question later on..



Quote:
Originally posted by Xarfax111 on January 20th, 2005 01:11 PM


Just a normal day with my buddies at the "HC Supermarket":

Some weird persons standing around a table, where someone sells fruits and vegetables. A Customers asks a question:

Jondifol:Ive 22 Dollars, i want a banana and some green apples. The banana costs 2 Dollars and each of those green apples cost 1 Dollar. How many fruits can I buy?

Xarfax1: The answer is 21. First uve to substract the 2 Dollars for your banana, then u can buy 20 times 1 green apple. So its:

1 Ba * 2 USD + 20 Ap * 1 USD = 22 USD

Tigris:That's not true.I have discovered while testing that the banana increases according to a very clear pattern, not random.

Xarfax1:Where did i say its random? It follows exactly the calculation i mentioned.

Tigris:U r just not willing to accept different views. I tested it with "upgraded" not green apples which cost 1,50 USD..and guess what? <-- I did NOT get 21 fruits! I also tested it with strawberries, carrots, oranges and some other funny stuff! You are wrong!

Xarfax1: When the price changes of course the result will be else, but the calculation stays the same. Btw. carrots arent even seen as fruits.

Tigris: Not all apples are GREEN! Gras is green, but not all apples!

Xarfax1:Lol where did i say that all apples are green? Gras isnt always green either.

Tigris: See!! Gras isnt always green either! Your calculation is wrong!

Xarfax1:No, its exactly how i described it.

Tigris:You are wrong. I tested it! I bought 10 more apples.. so i had 31 fruits ...still there WASNT THE SECOND BANANA! (Ha i got u!)

Xarfax1: ...eerrm!?

Tigris: I guess u didnt even tested it or tried to buy some for a single time, never checked it in reality, never tried to buy some fruits. I admit that i assume that out of the blue, but it think that..ive an opinion.

Xarfax1 goes and buys 1 Banana and 20 green apples for 22 Dollars from the supermarket. He does even make some pictures = him spending 22 Dollars ...getting the banana .. and the 20 green apples. Then he shows him the pictures and explains everything one by one.

Tigris:You havent tested it! I gonna telephone Wub, he knows how to buy fruits. You are wrong!

Xarfax1: No it works exactly like described.

Tigris: Ha! Only cause uve some stars from the supermarket you are not better then me, you "supermarketwanabevet". You are so arrogant! ...Although i just called u "supermarketwanabevet" and "arrogant" i hope we still will be friends.

Xarfax1: Jondifol just wanted 1 banana. So uve to reduce that 1 time! Then u divide the rest of your money by the prize of the appels. Dont miss the banana!!

Lord Woock: LOL you two are both right The source of the misunderstanding is that Xarfax is talking about the way things are calculated, while Tigris is talking about the patterns this leads to. Neither will ever contradict the other, so you two might as well stop right here

Xarfax1: AAAHHHHHHHHH!...
Lord Woock: ?
Tigris: ?

Xarfax1: ...argh. I guees i gonna buy me a pistol instead for 22 Dollars ...ive heard u get 1 bullet for free for this pistol so i can shot into my head.

Tigris: Your calculation is wrong. I just bought 2 Pistols and only got 1 Bullet for freee!!!!

SteveStiffler: Tigris u r such a "banananOObie".

LewisTherin: Xarfax1 Tigris is right: Sometimes its more important to get 2 bananas....

Xarfax1: Oh yes, not that i expected your stupid "im the best bananabuyer" comment.

LewsTherin: Although i havnt bought bananas for 2 years now im still faster buying them then u, i hope everyone remembers the time when i saw myself as one of the best "bananaboatmasters" of the world.

Angelito: @Xarfax1: Whats wrong with u? Stop calling other peeps "supermarketwanabee", "banananewbie", "bananajoe", "bananarama"...

Acugaylord:U see banana rightwhat apples in da house !?! Xars*cks!

Angelito:@Tigris: Of course it is all just  differnt point of views, some like banana, some green apples, some like gras ...i see gras in green, the sea in blue...heibubschibu ... "and iiii think to myself, what a wonderful world".....lalalala

The owner of the supermarket was watching the discussion. He looks into his trousers and sees: ..NO B*LLS!!. He always wanted to close down the supermarket --too  much work for no money -- but he had no b*lls to tell the customers. So this was the opportunity!

Owner: Ok, too much discussion in here. This is the reason why i close the supermarket. Everyone please leave!

Immeadiately the owners shorts drop down to his feed and everyone could see .. NO B*LLS!!

The very next day there were a sign at the closet supermarket: Andiangelslayer and Xarfax1 are responsible for the closure of this supermarket!

Heavy addicted customers like Zud, Jinxer, Lichking and Acugaylord beginn to demonstrate and shouting at Andiangelslayer (and Xarfax1).


Miss Kitty opens a lousy market.

Acugaylord sees Miss Kitty.

Acugaylord falls in love.

TRUE LOVE

Sweet kisses

Boy mets Girl
Girl mets Boy

HAPPY END





...sorry its still funny



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