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a_rebirthing...
Supreme Hero
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posted March 05, 2005 10:20 AM |
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My dragon town explanation
here is another idea for the dragon town,
*clears throat* when the dragons unite to form the dragon town, they must sacrifice a bit of themselves, because of their past battles against each other, to create a super piece of jewellery which keeps them from turning againts each other,maybe a dragon eye. some dragons thought they were too good for the dragon town and didn't participate.
this would be crap but how about some dragons sacrificed more and some dragons sacrificed less. this would mean that each dragon would be just as strong/weak as the other creatures of their level.
and about the hero. i think that the dragon town hero should be a human that was mutated with a dragon hatchling. this occured when a fairy dragon hatchling hatched in a intruders arms. a fairy dragon cast a spell to fuse a roc flying overhead with the intruder but was bumped and fused the intruder with her hatchling instead. the mother still cared for the mutant dragon teaching it how to fly and such. this hero is a might hero and resticted in magic(level 2 or 3) because of the way he was brought up by his dragon parents. he has flying ability and a breath attack when he reaches level 15. After he reaches level 30 he/she can cast level 4 spells and after level 40, he/she can cast level 5 spells. the dragon hero starts with a nobility skill for dragons.
this happened is as follows:
one day Dracon was drinking in a bar. he overheard two dwarves talking about a dragon town.Uthin and Furik were the names dracon recalled. The one know as Uthin one had a brown beard, helmet and large battle axe by his side. The other had a red beard, a steel curiass and warhammer resting on his shoulder. "these dragons are leaving their natural town and uniting" Uthin said. "No foolin' Uthin" said Furik. Uthin replied "The day i marry will be the day i start foolin'"  .
Dracon stoped listening and started thinking. His Wife, Cyra, and his 20 kids are waiting for there supper now( i used cyra for no real reason but i suppose a new hero could be created for this role). Dracon headed home.
so dracon explains to cyra that he is going to seek out the dragon town. cyra insists that the whole family goes too and cyra having great diplomacy skills, dracon cant refuse.
so dracon, cyra and the kids find the dragon town on utopian lake. dracons last born child, dragn, had recently learnt to walk. he practiced this new skill by walking over to a dragon hatchling. dragn patted the hatchling and the hatchling gave out a cry. the whole family ran over towards dragn trying to pull him back. a fairy dragon turned aroud and started casting a spell to make the humans and a pack of rocs flying overhead one. but the fairy dragon was bumped and combined the humans with the dragon hatchlings.
the dragon mother cared for the mutant dragons teachimg them traditional dragon skills and they were accepted into the dragon town. shortly after the dragons gathered. the fairy draons cast a spell to extract the hatred of all the dragons towards eachother and turn it into a dragons eye.
THIS WAS THE MAKING OF THE DRAGON TOWN!!!
the hero skills can be seen above
if this doesnt work then the dragon hero could easily turn evil and seperate the dragon town, which in turn takes everything back to how it was in hereos 4
CREATURES H2 style:
KEY:level:structure-creature>upgraded creature;abilities;>upgaded abilities
lvl 1: Egg Cavern- dragon hatchling; can reist lvl 1 spells
lvl 2:Gem-lined Cave-Black dragon baby*; has a ranged attack but his ranged attack is a super fire breath attack so all units in the path are damaged,resist level 1 spells
lvl 3: Dragon Cliffs-Green dragon>gold dragon;breath attack, cant fly but tries(like H3 imp), resist level 1 spells,resist level 2 spells and fly when upgraded.
lvl 4: Dragon Factory-copper dragon>iron dragon>>golem dragon;all mechanical, iron and dragon golem have first strike and dragon golem has negate first strike.
lvl 5:Magic Forest -dragon prentice>dragon mage>> fairy dragon;dragon prentic has basic spells, dragon mage has advanced spells and fairy dragon has the best spells,flying, magic mirror
lvl 6: Dragon Cave-red dragon>BLACK DRAGON;flying resist level 3, breath attack, resist all spells when upgraded.
H3 Style: same key
lvl 1: Egg Cavern-dragon hatchling>baby dragon;can reist lvl 1 spells
lvl 2: Gem-lined Cave-baby black dragon> toddler black dragon;has a ranged attack but his ranged attack is a super fire breath attack so all units in the path are damaged,resist all level 1 spells;>can resist all level 1 spells and can resist level 2 damage spells
lvl 3: dragon cliffs-green dragon>gold dragon;cant fly but tries(like H3 imp),breath attack,resist level 1 spells;>can fly and resist level 2 spells
lvl 4: mountain peak-frost wyrm> frost drake;cold attack,cold resistance;> freezing attack,fly
lvl 5: Dragon Factory-iron dragon> dragon golem;first strike,mechanical;>negate first strike
lvl 6: Magic Forest-dragon mage>fairy dragon;has three 1st level spells,two 2nd level spells, one 3rd level spell,magic mirror;>has 1 additional 3rd and 4th level spell,flying
lvl 7: Dragon Cave-red dragon>black dragon;flying, resist level 3 spells,breath attack;> resist all spells
H4 style: same key, same buildings(except for gold dragon)
lvl 1: Egg Cavern-dragon hatchling; can reist lvl 1 spells
lvl 1:black dragon baby*;has a ranged attack but his ranged attack is a super fire breath attack so all units in the path are damaged,resist level 1 spells
lvl 2:green dragon;resist damage spells,flying
lvl 2:red dragon;resist level 2 spells; flying, breath attack
lvl 3:Golden Clouds-gold dragon;flying resist level 3 spells, breath attack, flying
lvl 3:golem dragons;mechanical, negate first srike, first srike
lvl 4:Fairy dragon;magic mirror, flying,spellcaster
lvl 4:BLACK DRAGON; resist all spells, flying breath attack
*the black dragon babies can only resist level 1 spells so they were included in the ceremony.
this could explain how the town was formed
what do u think???
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Blackdragon
Adventuring Hero
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posted March 08, 2005 05:15 PM |
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Certainly agree! The strongest dragons will be black dragons, but there must be some bonus buildings in the dragon town, not only caves for the dragons. For example I suggest if you build dragon tree, every week you have your first battle with the immunity to all spells. Or to some levels. What do you think about that?
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guitarguy
Responsible
Supreme Hero
Rockoon.
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posted March 08, 2005 06:45 PM |
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Not so hot about it
Sorry to admit it, but I've never really been quite into the idea of there being an entire town composed of one type of creature. In this case it's dragons; but not that I discriminate. 
1. Single creature type towns will be very different from what's been around in H1, H2, H3 and H4. Unless you count the early Knight towns with their all-human classification. The Conflux town almost came close, as well. An all-dragon town would be a first. How good? I don't know.
2. If one town holds all the dragons, what will it be like for each of the other towns? Single creature towns, also? I think it would be awkward if every town were like that.
3. Also, will the dragon town be "watered-down" enough so that the other towns can stand a chance against them? Otherwise, I can see everybody just playing as dragons, since that's the most powerful.
4. Dropping the mixed creature aspect of towns means the creatures might lack a diversity of creatures and their respective special abilities. The dragons would have their strong magic-resistance ability, for example, but there would be little else. That is, unless they are given new special abilities to work with.
5. Mixed creatures towns, in my opinion, were more fun and interesting to play because there was variety. I'm afraid that if the creatures are grouped together, like dragons, people will get bored with them easily and not play as them often. If my memory serves me correctly, I stopped playing as the H2 Knight town years for the exact same reason.
Just some things to consider.
-guitarguy
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a_rebirthing...
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with rebirthing power
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posted March 09, 2005 11:48 AM |
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thx black dragon and here are my ideas for bonus structures:
-good idea about that dragon tree but what about it only protect dragons from harmful spells (eg ice bolt) on the first battle of the week.
-dragon wings(built behind dragon eye) increases speed and movement by 2
-mage tower only goes up to level 3
-and something to increase creture production like in all towns.
also i think the grail structure should be a dragon claw which holds up the dragon eye instead of a rock(this must look cool)and that some dragons suffer no penalties from being in their previous town e.g. fairy dragon suffers no penalties when with creatures from the most nature like town.
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Sorry to admit it, but I've never really been quite into the idea of there being an entire town composed of one type of creature. In this case it's dragons; but not that I discriminate.
1. Single creature type towns will be very different from what's been around in H1, H2, H3 and H4. Unless you count the early Knight towns with their all-human classification. The Conflux town almost came close, as well. An all-dragon town would be a first. How good? I don't know.
2. If one town holds all the dragons, what will it be like for each of the other towns? Single creature towns, also? I think it would be awkward if every town were like that.
3. Also, will the dragon town be "watered-down" enough so that the other towns can stand a chance against them? Otherwise, I can see everybody just playing as dragons, since that's the most powerful.
4. Dropping the mixed creature aspect of towns means the creatures might lack a diversity of creatures and their respective special abilities. The dragons would have their strong magic-resistance ability, for example, but there would be little else. That is, unless they are given new special abilities to work with.
5. Mixed creatures towns, in my opinion, were more fun and interesting to play because there was variety. I'm afraid that if the creatures are grouped together, like dragons, people will get bored with them easily and not play as them often. If my memory serves me correctly, I stopped playing as the H2 Knight town years for the exact same reason.
Just some things to consider.
-guitarguy
guitarguy i'll try to answer some of ur problems with the dragon town.
1) yes a sigle creature town will be very different but isn't that what a new game is about, difference.
2)if one town has all the dragons that would take them away from their previous towns but as in heroes 4 only 3 towns have dragon creatures so its not a huge loss to them and im sure ubisoft could introduce some other creatures to take thier place
3) yes the dragon town will be 'watered down' enough to make them beatable by other town.
4) yes the town would lack diversity but again im sure ubisoft could introduce some new creatures to take their place and yea maybe some new abilities are to be given to the dragons.
5) well as you said that is your opinion and my opinion is that this would be a fun change and if it doesnt work then the hero could turn evil and seperate the dragon town.
i hope that helps
also i will post my ideas of the creatures and levels they should be in the next few days hopefully
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lionharte
Adventuring Hero
Paladin of Light
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posted March 19, 2005 08:40 AM |
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hmmm...
my question is what side would they be on?good?(very unlikely)neutral(even less likely)Evil?(most likely.)
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FireSpirit
Famous Hero
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posted March 19, 2005 09:45 AM |
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Why do you think dragons should be evil? That makes no sense. They are neutral creatures that can be trained for good or evil purposes.
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a_rebirthing...
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posted March 19, 2005 10:00 AM |
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good,evil or neutral
i think they should be neutral since they have both good and evil dragons such as a dragon golem(good) and black dragons(evil)
neutral would fit them best and since my cover up story, where the hero turns evil and sperates the dragon town, the town would have to be neutral or good since an evil hero couldn't turn evil
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TitaniumAlloy
Honorable
Legendary Hero
Professional
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posted March 19, 2005 11:37 AM |
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H3 style?
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pop_pip
Tavern Dweller
Tower Guard
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posted March 19, 2005 02:52 PM |
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Somehow I don't like the idea of having any Weak Dragons comparable to Peasants in a HoMM game.
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lionharte
Adventuring Hero
Paladin of Light
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posted March 19, 2005 10:25 PM |
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yup
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Somehow I don't like the idea of having any Weak Dragons comparable to Peasants in a HoMM game.
too true
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a_rebirthing...
Supreme Hero
with rebirthing power
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posted March 20, 2005 12:46 AM |
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Somehow I don't like the idea of having any Weak Dragons comparable to Peasants in a HoMM game.
well a dragon hatchling is quite weak since it is a hatchling afterall. for the dragon town to work there is going to have to be dragons that are weak but i dont think any dragon will be defeated by a peasant.
p.s. H3 style tomorrow (hopefully)
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Consis
Honorable
Legendary Hero
Of Ruby
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posted March 20, 2005 03:50 PM |
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a_rebirthing...
Supreme Hero
with rebirthing power
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posted March 22, 2005 11:34 AM |
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H3 style is up but skills are to be finished
does anyone like the idea of the baby black dragon being ranged or should i replace it with something else
any further suggestions would be welcome
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TheRealDeal
Promising
Supreme Hero
Foobum* of Justice!
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posted March 23, 2005 07:14 AM |
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LoooooooooooooooL
This race will be run 100 % by Dragons, yes?
How come there is a Dragon Golem? Somehow i fail to see dragons sitting in the pit putting things together to build one!
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*We all know the that Foobum is the class of all that is Cake.
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a_rebirthing...
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posted March 23, 2005 10:17 AM |
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dragons riding dragons
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This race will be run 100 % by Dragons, yes?
How come there is a Dragon Golem? Somehow i fail to see dragons sitting in the pit putting things together to build one!
excellent point! i have no idea on how thats gonna pan out(thus far) but im sure i'll think of something
thx alot TheRealDeal
any further comments and suggestions are still welcome
p.s. H3 style is up in full
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