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Heroes Community > Library of Enlightenment > Thread: Which starting hero do you choose and why
Thread: Which starting hero do you choose and why This thread is 4 pages long: 1 2 3 4 · «PREV / NEXT»
D-Forge
D-Forge

Tavern Dweller
posted May 02, 2005 08:43 PM

I thought the standard is completely different: small map=spellcaster, huge map = mighty dude.. o_O
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mithomasMIT
mithomasMIT


Hired Hero
Neversleeper
posted May 02, 2005 09:05 PM

No, because fighter heroes have at the beginning a good attack bonus
And spellcasters have only basic spells at the beginning

So the same problem as in all RPG
Spellcasters are weak at the beginning but strong at the end


An example My lich in MM9 was at level 111 and my  fighters (gladiator+palladin) level 56-60...

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angelito
angelito


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posted May 03, 2005 12:55 AM

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No, because fighter heroes have at the beginning a good attack bonus
And spellcasters have only basic spells at the beginning

So the same problem as in all RPG
Spellcasters are weak at the beginning but strong at the end...


LoL

Sorry to say dude, but u really should play some online games first before u make such statements.
On smaller maps, spellcasters are better, coz they cast magic arrows or lighning bolts which could kill your level 7 troops with 1 hit, but on larger maps, these spells won´t hurt u that much, coz your army is much bigger...and u (might hero) have learned some magic skills as well...and probably resistance, red orb...recanters...and after the first magic hit of the spellcaster, the might hero will probably cast expert haste or mass slow and crush your army to death with poor might....7 times in a row...and with moral perhaps 8 or 9 times....while you can cast a big spell only ONCE per round....try it..
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rychenroller
rychenroller


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posted May 03, 2005 05:25 AM

good i dont have to reply now





























































oops I just did
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lkru33
lkru33


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posted May 03, 2005 01:56 PM

I am currently playing a game where pretty much anything goes.  We selected random heroes and I ended up with gunnar & my opponent has neela and solomyr.  It looks like my opponent really wanted solomyr as his main... problem is, I now have the red orb  He wanted to fight, just to see how he would do.  So he attacked me, and I waited with my red dragons, so now it is his turn.  There was a bit of a pause... probably from trying to cast chain lightning but finding out it isn't working.... then all of a sudden, I see "Bleep!!!" on the screen.  Needless to say, his 8 knowledge and 8 spell power meant nothing in the battle... but his 2 att, and 4 def was nice for me to see  
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Jebus
Jebus


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TheJester akaJeebs akaJebfoo
posted May 03, 2005 02:04 PM

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I am currently playing a game where pretty much anything goes.  We selected random heroes and I ended up with gunnar & my opponent has neela and solomyr.  It looks like my opponent really wanted solomyr as his main... problem is, I now have the red orb  He wanted to fight, just to see how he would do.  So he attacked me, and I waited with my red dragons, so now it is his turn.  There was a bit of a pause... probably from trying to cast chain lightning but finding out it isn't working.... then all of a sudden, I see "Bleep!!!" on the screen.  Needless to say, his 8 knowledge and 8 spell power meant nothing in the battle... but his 2 att, and 4 def was nice for me to see  


I never liked you....


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lkru33
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posted May 03, 2005 02:12 PM

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I never liked you....




I never said who I was playing  


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Jebus
Jebus


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TheJester akaJeebs akaJebfoo
posted May 03, 2005 02:44 PM

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I never said who I was playing  




I wasn't reffering to that....  
I just... never like you....

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mithomasMIT
mithomasMIT


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Neversleeper
posted May 03, 2005 10:28 PM

But U forget that there are more spells than just combat spells.

I know that chainlightning and the other stuffs don't work on greater armys,
But Spellcasting heroes can gain attack with artifacts and Arenas, and have more spellpoint to cast:
slow(or mass slow)
haste
ressurect(true)
paralyze
&other cookies

Or let me ask U something have U tryed the necromancer heroes on HIGh level????? cause they are more balanced and gain attack and spellcasting skills as well.


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zsa
zsa


Famous Hero
posted May 03, 2005 11:27 PM

lol Some people here have been playing this game for 7 years. You coming here and telling us that necromancy is a good skill is really moot. Necropolis is already banned from most random templates, so what does that tell you?

About your magic might theory - no.

Might is better later on, it's already been explained.

The might hero has mass slow and/or haste too ok? You're not fighting a might hero with no spells lol.

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mithomasMIT
mithomasMIT


Hired Hero
Neversleeper
posted May 04, 2005 12:11 PM

Don't think I'm a beginner, I played Heroes for 10years

And please explain me why is it better to have on a small map where enemies are nearby to have a spellcaster hero with small ammaunt of mana????  After U used your mana it regenarates slow and wells aren't on every maps.
But a fighter hero on small map can always benefit from his attack advances, which is permanent not like spellpoints...


Besides I didn't mentioned necromancy, only the necromancer heroes, because they get attack and spellcasting bonuses.

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angelito
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posted May 04, 2005 01:31 PM

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Don't think I'm a beginner, I played Heroes for 10years


You´re probably not a beginner playing against the comp, but for sure a beginner playing against good human players..

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And please explain me why is it better to have on a small map where enemies are nearby to have a spellcaster hero with small ammaunt of mana????  After U used your mana it regenarates slow and wells aren't on every maps.
But a fighter hero on small map can always benefit from his attack advances, which is permanent not like spellpoints...


Perhaps we should make something clear here. On small maps (which are NOT played online normaly), u will meet your opponent in week 1. Your army won´t be that big to take advantage from your attack skill. But the spellcasters lightning bolt or meteor shower (Aislinn, Deemer, Jeddite) will hurt you a lot.

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Besides I didn't mentioned necromancy, only the necromancer heroes, because they get attack and spellcasting bonuses.


So do many other heroes classes....ever tried Gundula?..
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mithomasMIT
mithomasMIT


Hired Hero
Neversleeper
posted May 04, 2005 01:43 PM

thanx for your reply!

Well U convinced me abaut it...
But I have to say my strategy worked with HoMM2 against AI/Human opponents
True the 3rd part is more balanced and enables what U say.

thanx for the advice


AND FOR ALL WHO CRITIC ME; I PREFER FIGHTER HEROES NOT SPELLCASTERS!!!!!!

but sometimes U have to try new things tooooooooooooooo




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sandro_the_necromancer

Tavern Dweller
posted May 04, 2005 09:23 PM
Edited By: sandro_the_necromancer on 4 May 2005

Sandro

Necromancer town, always
Sandro, always
... I have an unhealthy obsession XD
Because you all know he rocks, exept in heroes 4.. he looks like a clown in that, 3DO Why must you have taken away Sandro's bad assnes!?
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Lich_King
Lich_King


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Supreme Hero
posted May 04, 2005 09:28 PM

OHH NO WE ARE THE CLOWN ! And since when sandro actually had ass ? I though it's ishium bone...
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sandro_the_n...
sandro_the_necromancer

Tavern Dweller
posted May 04, 2005 11:39 PM

-.-;;

I'm going to make a prick of myself if your joking
but... not ass
badass
lol
and you can't think he looks good in H4...c'mon!
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patriot_pulsar
patriot_pulsar


Adventuring Hero
posted May 05, 2005 10:15 AM

I  just wanted to mention everyone i am back after long illness

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element01913
element01913

Tavern Dweller
posted May 14, 2005 03:23 AM

Town: Tower
Hero: Solmyr

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tigris
tigris


Supreme Hero
Supreme Noobolator
posted May 14, 2005 07:08 AM
Edited By: tigris on 14 May 2005

Outcome: dafeat

Edit: defeat even lol
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patriot_pulsar
patriot_pulsar


Adventuring Hero
posted May 19, 2005 02:58 AM

Solmyr is a great hero if u know how to play with him tigris I wouldnt never picked him myself but i know guys who would of done so and they normally win
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