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Heroes Community > Library of Enlightenment > Thread: Jebus
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Thormer_Firen
Thormer_Firen

Tavern Dweller
posted February 03, 2017 03:11 AM

Years after thread started, but jebus is still played, so my 2 pennies :

In my opinion jebus is never balanced : it is somwhere between little luck factor for one side to heavily unbalanced. It really doesn't depend on what's on your map but what you can actually get. Cons/hives generated with something else might be protected with nasty guardians + put them week away from the main route and you never gonna get them or have a rough time trying to do so. Contrary your opponent can have 2 easy guarded hives + smallest cons and he's ahead pretty quick, then snowball begins.

Now, why I state it can be heavily unbalanced? 2 examples:

1. I played with castle, Orrin, 0 cons, 3 hives and angels as block. I went for expert earth, crossbowmen and angels myself + arties for -2 morale (HotA) cause no tactis on him nor any other hero. I thougth  I can slow down angels and shoot them + finishing blow with angels/wyvs cause I have initiative. Boom - one stack in block is upgraded : GG, while my opponent had nagas (ffs).

2. I had 7 (sick!) unicorn glades on my map. Got 5 of them + dragons dwell. And because amongst heroes I had Ryland (for early dwarven treasuries) my opponent accused me of using diplo. And of course all the nagas/dwarves on earth to support buying all those unicorns, why not? Huh.

Besides that, I feel like the red player area is always somewhat bigger and richer, or is it only me?

P.S. sorry for long post, but it was my first here
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sachelos
sachelos


Known Hero
posted March 15, 2017 11:56 PM
Edited by sachelos at 00:04, 16 Mar 2017.

How to win vs sultans...

Can't figure it out at all...
week2 day5, krellion, 17 13 9 8, exp off, exp resis, exp earth, adv arm, exp log, adv arch, basic air. (slow, bless, cure, shield, stone sk..)
army : 17 grand elves, 6 dendroids, 8 pegasi, 4 war unis, 5 angels, 2 goldies, 88 centaur captains.
After struggling big time...got left with 17 grands, 5 angels and 2 goldies...dont know if its good or bad..
What would you do?
Sultans are really bad ass to fight to...
Am i missing smth?!?

@edit: only 2 hives, placed far apart from eachother, didnt bother to get them, 3 cons, got 2 of them, no topes in starting area.
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batoonike
batoonike


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posted March 16, 2017 05:31 PM

Map generation is certainly a bit different for blue and red.

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NimoStar
NimoStar


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posted March 17, 2017 09:24 PM

No hives is a dumb rule... hives are on of the few advantages of playing Fortress, which is otherwise a not very powerful faction (but some people like me like it anyways).

Other than that... most templates have luck involved, even in what monsters are best/worse for each player.
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kkrahen
kkrahen

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posted March 20, 2017 05:54 AM

NimoStar said:
No hives is a dumb rule... hives are on of the few advantages of playing Fortress, which is otherwise a not very powerful faction (but some people like me like it anyways).

Other than that... most templates have luck involved, even in what monsters are best/worse for each player.



Hello, I have played WOG for a long time but recently failed at installing an update and attempted to reinstall it.  The game functions but crashes as soon as I click on "Single Scenario" - this occurs in single player or hot seat modes.

Can someone please help me!  Thank you so much (copied below is the wog crash log):


Time Stamp: Mon Mar 20 04:46:01 2017


Map Saved with:

WoG Version: 3 . 58f
Built on Oct 24 2004



EIP = {0x00404C36},  Access Violation. Attempt to {read} the inaccessible data at {0x00000000}

The Latest Executed ERM Receiver:



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sachelos
sachelos


Known Hero
posted March 20, 2017 07:15 AM

Guess I have to re-formulate my Q
How to get "the most" in a fight vs Sultans?
Cmmon vets, foos...?
Any ideas?
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Benny4700
Benny4700


Hired Hero
posted April 25, 2017 04:38 PM

What exactly is Jebus? Heard a lot about it but never played it
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batoonike
batoonike


Known Hero
posted April 28, 2017 08:25 PM

It's a random map template. Random map generator uses it to create maps with specific characteristics. In case of jebus, it involves a lot of resources and simple layout. You can get 1 version here: http://www.toheroes.com/h3maps/Random.htm

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FirePaladin
FirePaladin


Legendary Hero
DoR Modder
posted April 07, 2020 12:05 PM
Edited by FirePaladin at 12:43, 07 Apr 2020.

Anyway, I posted somewhere on reddit the Jebus Cross 6 player template, it's gotten pretty popular in several hours, so why shouldn't I share it with you too? Here's the link:
Jebus Cross 3v3
Jebus Cross 3v3 - Underground
mt_Jebus allied templates

Edit: It's not a joke, btw. I also posted the underground version which isn't available on reddit.

Edit 2: Also added 2v2 and 3v3 templates for mt_Jebus. They both have instructions for allying in their description.

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