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Svarog
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posted October 08, 2005 02:21 AM |
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The "pills" comment, "pretending to be mature" and "showing smart" comments are out of line.
USAtheist accepted to stop the name-calling, but you did not.
Oh, I accept absolutely as well. You wont hear any more of it from me.
Besides if you consider these things insults i really think we have a free speech problem on this forum.
Is "USAtheist is displaying unusual amounts of verbal violence in his post" suitable instead of the "pills" comment, cos its bloody same. Or is "showing smart" automatically derogatory, since apparently you didnt even bother to read the context.
Then feel free so and penal me.
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Jebus
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posted October 08, 2005 02:24 AM |
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none of my business but...
he did warn you both. 
(so socialism eh??)
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Conan
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posted October 08, 2005 02:32 AM |
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Edited By: Conan on 7 Oct 2005
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what was said before my original warning is over and done with.
What was said after my friendly warning however becomes problematic.
You are right, he did post nasty remarks and yes, both of you are to blame. That's why I did a friendly warning to you both.
But you kept on going. That, is the unacceptible behavior, and that is the issue at hand, not what was said before my friendly warning.
EDIT: I will not penalize you as of yet, but you have been warned.
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Svarog
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posted October 08, 2005 02:42 AM |
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*shivers*
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Conan
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posted October 08, 2005 02:45 AM |
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Edited By: Conan on 7 Oct 2005
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*shivers*
I'm not going to delete that.
I'll let it there so everyone can see the way you are reacting.
It's very unproductive.
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Shiva
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posted October 08, 2005 04:13 PM |
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Shiva you have really good remarks ,
do you think that religions exists only because some of the people wanted to have power so they started worshipping some god so they have more and more followers who can provide them with goods and money and so ..
I think that must be something on it,many people are only searching in they lifes what are they and where they belong.I think that everyone is trying to gind his own identification,hes finding himself.
So that why are some people joining this religion or this sect or some gang,its because they are only trying to belong somewhere?
Most religions seem to start because someone had a vision
or insight into the way things are. Its not easy to assess the character of those that were there at the beginning since we only have very old records of who and what they were, but guys like Jesus and Buddha really
must have impressed the people of their day.Usually, its
those who came after these prophets that created a
religion, and then the power structure that became the
church or the ruling body of the group.
The social group is a big part of what makes a religion
attractive, belonging to something is important to most
people. I think that there are genuine seekers, however, who wish to come to know themselves alot better and so, find a path to follow that can help them in their search. That is the real core idea of a religion, not just
"belonging".
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arachnid
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posted October 08, 2005 08:50 PM |
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Most religions seem to start because someone had a vision
or insight into the way things are. Its not easy to assess the character of those that were there at the beginning since we only have very old records of who and what they were, but guys like Jesus and Buddha really
must have impressed the people of their day.
Unless we use a slightly newer religion to look at, like the morman faith. Whos Prophet Joseph Smith has since convinced 10,354,241 people to join his faith. And to my eyes he seems pretty damn crazy, so i dont hold much faith for the other main religous figures.
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Shiva
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posted October 12, 2005 02:14 AM |
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Most religions seem to start because someone had a vision
or insight into the way things are. Its not easy to assess the character of those that were there at the beginning since we only have very old records of who and what they were, but guys like Jesus and Buddha really
must have impressed the people of their day.
Unless we use a slightly newer religion to look at, like the morman faith. Whos Prophet Joseph Smith has since convinced 10,354,241 people to join his faith. And to my eyes he seems pretty damn crazy, so i dont hold much faith for the other main religous figures.
I guess its hard to generalize about religions. I don't
see Smith as being of the same quality as Jesus or Buddha.
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ConanAmra
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posted October 18, 2005 02:48 PM |
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I think the same,Buddha and Jesus are something different but still people.
Todays christian religion isnt coming after the words of Jesus and they made this today form of it as far it is good for them and they can prosper from it.
I was at wedding of my old friend this weekend ,and hes a christian so he had a wedding in the church ,the preacher there was saying such things like we must hate everyone who is enemy of the church and I also cannot overhear that we must donate money to church and so and so..
How can preacher say such things?Like hate someone ?
Thats crazy.
Or how he can say to pair of young people how they should be behave in their together life after wedding when he hasnt got any wife or kid.
Every christian there was fascinated in there ,but to me it was only fanatic trying to convince others that only christians are the best in the world,nobody hasnt suffered like Jesus,and give me money ,you will be in heaven after dead.
Im disgusted 
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Guitarguy
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posted October 18, 2005 02:59 PM |
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I was at wedding of my old friend this weekend ,and hes a christian so he had a wedding in the church ,the preacher there was saying such things like we must hate everyone who is enemy of the church and I also cannot overhear that we must donate money to church and so and so..
I didn't expect to hear that kind of talk from a Christian preacher, either. I think that guy is (unknowingly?) giving other Christians a bad name. My own church never preached to hate people who differ from our faith, but emphasized the need for tolerance and acceptance instead.
Maybe that one preacher was speaking in the context of Satan and his hellish legions by saying "enemies of the church"? I have no idea since I wasn't there to hear him. But if your context is correct, his preaching was definitely wandering off the paved road.
-Guitarguy
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arachnid
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posted October 19, 2005 12:37 AM |
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I guess its hard to generalize about religions. I don't
see Smith as being of the same quality as Jesus or Buddha.
Its easy to generalize, ill do it watch. Top 5 quality religions
1 Christianity (you got your christmas and easter )
2 Judaism (Nice candles, cool hats)
3 Hinduism (great wacky gods (esp the elephant guy hes great)
4 Buddhism ( like the idea of praying to a big boned, mellowed out god)
5 HARE KRISHNA (these guys make the top five for the great outfits and cultish vibes)
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Conan
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posted October 19, 2005 02:43 AM |
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I've cleaned this thread
Just so you all know, I've cleaned the attacks and insults out of page 4.
If ever your post was edited and you think I changed the meaning of what you said, let me know and I'd be happy to discuss it with you.
I look forward to more debating.
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ConanAmra
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posted November 07, 2005 08:51 PM |
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OK people lets start here discussing about Freemasonry and about Templar Knights.
Im reading at this time a lots of books about them and everything about the truth around Jesus and all religions.
Is anyone from you interested in such things like me?
Feel free to write here something about it and write your comments about the religions.
Im starting with that ,that Christian history is based on lies and facts that arent true ,becasue Paul was an roman citizen and he started christian religion only on his theories and no real facts and he was against Jacob,the brother of Jesus,which was true believer.
In bible there is no mentioning about Jacob even Jacob was more popular then Jesus himself.Jesus was called the king messiah because of the line from David,and Jacob was called the priest messiah,when they crucified Jesus there were two of them ,but on the cross was crucified the Jesus,king messiah,his brother Jacob was set free,but he was murdered later.He had conflicts with the Paul who was trying to make new false religon in which state it is to this day,but the old scrolls were burried in few places and now we can read from them and gain more andmore facts about the true teachings of Jesus and Jacob.That Jesus ahd brothers and sisters and his true father was Joseph,because he couldnt be then the King messiah ,when he wasnt from Jospeh becasue Joseph was the from the family line of David.But the bible is mentioning only one messiah ,aka Jesus.
To this day the Vatican state is only the memento from the Roman empire but still existing and using his powers to interfere in world politics.
There are more and more facts about that,that this christian church is full of lies and hidden truth so the normal people that they are worshipping them would worship them for an endless period of time,but one time all people will knew the truth about it.
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not_a_hero
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posted November 11, 2005 06:51 PM |
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I mean it doesn't harm anything to belive, even in that naive way those people do.They feel strong if god is watching&protecting them.They feel save even if God seem to be asleep when their houses dissapear under water.they don't doubt him and they see this as a test coming from him to try their faith.So they don't dissapoint him and keep on beliving.
It's a bit late, but while the general point was good, these people are not naive. They are thankful they lived. The number of deaths was pretty low considering how bad the flooding was. And they do not continue to believe because they don't want to dissapoint God, The Orthodox faith doesn't view God like that...they are not worried about wrath like some kind of volcano god.
So the post was nice....but....
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Aculias
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posted January 16, 2006 02:24 PM |
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Once again I read only the first reply.
Religion came in many forms from the golden ancient times.
From Ancient Egypt to now & even before.
Many looked at certain thangs that seemed unreal & they tought it was a sign.
Religion keeps order from any unjustice.
We use religion so it scares others to commit any crime.
As i said religion came from many yrs &
we were taught to belive in our religion we grew up on.
I wouldnt nessarily say it's Religions fault for nothing but what are Ancestors believed & in time some exploit it & use it to thier advantage.
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dkolb
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posted January 20, 2006 11:58 PM |
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I'm really lazy and don't want to read through all of the comments. But I want to address the first post:
"Are the Religions guilty?"
No.
People are guilty.
"Im asking myself from time to time if there wouldnt be no religion on Earth,if then would be peace between all people or at least peace between most of them.Because as we see in todays world,the religion only uses people to to do what the highest members want to do from them.Its all about politics I say,and only troubles are looking out from."
If there was no religion on earth there would be still not be peace. They would find something else to fight about. Race and ethnicity comes to mind, and well as social status. In my opinion war is human nature, and I will agree that religion brings people together sometimes on a opposing sides. I also believe that some religion is distorted and used for political purposes and used to make war. But it is not evil in itself. When I think of Christianity, and the early roots of it. It obviously wasn't a ruse to fool the blind masses back then. Heck if you were a Christian you were thrown to the lions. You couldn't be a mindless sheep and be a Christian you had to be a daredevil. Then after Constantine you had the opposite happening, you had pagans thrown to the lions. That doesn't have to do with religion that has to do with politics, power, and humans.
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fortress_fan
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posted January 23, 2006 08:37 PM |
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Im asking myself from time to time if there wouldnt be no religion on Earth,if then would be peace between all people or at least peace between most of them.Because as we see in todays world,the religion only uses people to to do what the highest members want to do from them.Its all about politics I say,and only troubles are looking out from,if someones having some God,please worship him in silence and dont tell others that this God is the only one and the best God and there is no other and better.Because the priests are doing this all around world,they need more and more sheeps,becasue they need someone to vote for them,or to gain more power and influnece all over world,but on the people there are on the lowest step of the ladder ,about them isnt cared about.Many conflicts are only because of the religion,what do you think,is the religion guilty for many things in our world??
The religons are all primitive! They are nott guilty for all but for many things. It should be lesser wars in the world if it wasn´t for them and we should have no moslems! (BEST) 
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Vlaad
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posted January 23, 2006 11:30 PM |
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The religons are all primitive! They are nott guilty for all but for many things. It should be lesser wars in the world if it wasn´t for them and we should have no moslems! (BEST)
This guy is begging for it... 
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fortress_fan
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posted January 24, 2006 05:56 PM |
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ConanAmra
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posted February 21, 2006 06:37 PM |
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Whos begging for what ?
Yeah without religion it would be less wars on Earth and maybe somewhere else too,but people are stupid and are trusting some guys in black dresses with funny hats on their heads and are thinking that only the priest have the truth and our religion is the only and true religion on Earth.
Thats really sad ,but people just cant see to be normally thinking when something happens that is doing with their own religion and they are forgeting that the priests are also doing this speech for more higher goals ,for the people they are more upon them and using all the blind sheeps doing whatever they want to do from them.Even if their religion shows them to be more peaceful and respectful to others.But that is only air to them ,they will only hear what the higher ones will ask to do from them and they dont wonder why are they breaking they own rules and are changing them so it will be suitable for them in a moment.
Sad ,sad,really sad.
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