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Heroes Community > Heroes 4 - Lands of Axeoth > Thread: There must be no poor looking units in HMM4
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Night_Stalker
Night_Stalker


Known Hero
Lord of the Night
posted August 26, 2001 05:50 PM

I don't believe my eyes..

I think the Pikeman could do Replacing for That boring Peasants.. Why there are two Low level humans... I think it sucks.. The whole haven sucks.
PS: Sorry angel and Zealot and Champion!
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ThE_HyDrA
ThE_HyDrA


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posted August 28, 2001 06:54 AM

Archers

I believe Archers will be used in place of peasants. Correct me if i'm wrong but Archers have been in all the Heroes series, and have been part of those types of towns. Plus there is a screenshot of what looks like an Archer-http://www.mmportals.com/images/homm04battle5.jpg to suggest that there is one.
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DarkRain_CHN
DarkRain_CHN

Tavern Dweller
posted August 28, 2001 09:18 AM

Quote:
About : You break the balance of the game.

chAosKid send me his copy of Shadow of death with his changes and I think it is more balanced now. You must try to play let's say with creatures from 20 populations from Dungeon vs 20 pop. from Tower and don't use magic. Before the chances were 30% (Duneon) to 70% (Tower) to win and now -- 45% (Dungeon) 55% (Tower). The balace is OK  since you have only 2 Scorpicores with Castle (before-4). And the Wyvern is much cooooolll now


What about the Dragon Fly Hive? Wyverns are too strong now.
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chAosKid
chAosKid

Tavern Dweller
posted August 28, 2001 04:08 PM

Thank you Void - my idia behind the changing of the scorpicore was the same-Dungeon is too weak vs Tower.

As for the Wyvern you also can get only 2 (with Castle) per week. A simple calculating:
4 horned wyvern-> 280 hp , 88 dam
2 ancient wyvern -> 260 hp , 90 dam
It is the same but you can use them for longer time, since you can get ressurection spell in Fortress.

(4 scorpicors -> 320 hp , 80 dam
2 scorpicors (changed stats) -> 300 hp , 80 dam
They are more usefull against strong units)

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chAosKid
chAosKid

Tavern Dweller
posted August 28, 2001 04:27 PM

And one more thing - "There must be no poor looking units in HoMM4" - from different point of view:
the appereance is not that important, the important thing is the main idea behind the army!
Peasants in the battle - the general of this army must be insane - they are weak and usefull for very short time - so the battle is lost since there is no iconomic support for the war (let them working)

Vampires (are a lovely creatures) and the perfect killers in the myths (with the dragons of course)

imagine a planet where peaceful herbivores live happily, without any predators. they live happily until there's no more land to feed them and then die horribly & slowly due to famine and lack ov vital space.

imagine a planet where humans breed happily without any predators. then you'll see thee need for vampyres.

i was exploring this totem thing, and found that vampyre is a human totemform, a superhuman, a predator for this niche of well-fed breeding sheeps. it seems that they're related to dragons (dracul -> dragon It is a good idea for this unit !?!


You can make a strong army with elite well armored fighters (this is for the Goblins in the town of Might Stronghold)

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The_Gootch
The_Gootch


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posted August 29, 2001 06:40 PM

Quote:
Thank you Void - my idia behind the changing of the scorpicore was the same-Dungeon is too weak vs Tower.

As for the Wyvern you also can get only 2 (with Castle) per week. A simple calculating:
4 horned wyvern-> 280 hp , 88 dam
2 ancient wyvern -> 260 hp , 90 dam
It is the same but you can use them for longer time, since you can get ressurection spell in Fortress.

(4 scorpicors -> 320 hp , 80 dam
2 scorpicors (changed stats) -> 300 hp , 80 dam
They are more usefull against strong units)


Chaoskid you goofnut...Dungeon rocks and Tower has done nothing but gain scorn and contempt.  It now ranks down there with the Inferno and Rampart as the worst Castles.  First...the units are cost-prohibitive.  You need to run your little experiment with an equal amount of gold for both sides.  Second, and in the real world, the speed of the tower's troops just about guarantee that it will go 2nd or 3rd in a battle.  I don't know about you... but I hate to start my turn with all of my titans wiped out.  By the way...just as Castle rules in Homm3...so will Haven in Homm4.  Anyone who has an issue with that can meet me on the zone.
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chAosKid
chAosKid

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posted August 30, 2001 05:17 PM

to Void

Void, have change your e-mail? I can't find you (
As for the question you asked I have found this:

Nyarlathotep is considered the messenger, will, and soul of the Outer Gods of the Lovecraftian Mythos. In this mythos the Outer Gods (along with the Elder Gods) rule the universe. Though these Gods are frequently portrayed as 'evil' and chaotic; there is a wealth of alien knowledge to be found within these lesser-traveled paths. What is found is likely to be surreal, 'insane', 'grotesque', Gigeresque, alienly erotic, etc. In short, parts of ourselves some of us wish we never knew existed. To some it might simply be 'strange and beautiful'.

Azathoth is the 'ruler' of the Outer Gods, and it is his Will that we intend to petition (through Nyarlathotep) so that we may share the dreams of Cthulhu (not an Outer God, but a Great Old One , who are very powerful ancient alien beings).

Azathoth is portrayed as the 'blind idiot god', a monstrous nuclear chaos. Cthulhu can take many forms, but is most frequently portrayed as a huge octopoid headed humanoid. It is said that Cthulhu sleeps in his sunken city of R'lyeh, beneath the Pacific Ocean...waiting for his followers to awaken him.

Nyarlathotep frequently appears as a jet black humanoid...but has other forms as well. It must be mentioned that these Gods are said to wish humankind nothing but cruelty and insanity, or at the least, blind indifference.

You have been warned.


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