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k1ng
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posted August 27, 2005 07:26 AM |
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Talk-Fights : Empire Strikes Back (Video Games)
oh well, seems like the Land of War didn't get a high attention 'cause of math stuff  , so i'll try to make an easier game this time, though the Land of War still exists, if you wanna present your math skills you still can join up  . about this game, it'll be very easier than my other one. each person will choose a favorite video game(strategy or RPG). an alignment(evil or good) will represent your chosen characteristic. each person has to prove, that the game they chose is much better than other people's choices. you can agree with other people, deny what they say or even ignore them, the choice is yours. depending on your attitude against or with other people, they will give you evil point(s)  or good point(s)  . your goal is to get higher rank of your alignment and provement of best game ever. here's the ranking list,
^ Goodness Spirit(160 good points)
^ Half-Angel(80 good points)
^ Wise and Strong Person(40 good points)
^ Trustful Right Hand(20 good points)
^ Helping Partner(10 good points)
^ Good Person(5 good points)
> Neutral Person (0 point)
v Bad Person(5 bad points)
v Non-Helping Partner(10 bad points)
v Distrustful Oppenent(20 bad points)
v Evil and Aggressive Person(40 bad points)
v Half-Demon(80 bad points)
v Darkness Spirit(160 bad points)
these will be your titles through the game by the points that you'll earn. as you can see the amount of points for next rank increase by double.
so far simple enough ? the game is all about talking with another, there's not much of a rule. i hope to see more posts and replies to this game. if there is anything that doesn't end up to your mind, just inform me. have fun!! 
k1ng
rank : neutral (0 point)
i'll choose 'Star Wars : Knights of the Old Republic', one of my best RPG action games ever.
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mr_niceguy
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posted August 29, 2005 01:58 PM |
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i'm not sure what u mean by charecteristic or rank BUT THIS SOUNDS LIKE A MAD GAME!!!
I choose Final Fantasy!!!
do i have to choose one final fantasy? i dont want to choose between the 12 of them but i will if i have to, but i'd rather do the whole series
PS: i think the title for the thread is a bit misleading
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a stich in time saves nine... what the hell does that mean?
If u enjoy telling ur friends of how uve never been beaten with ur own legs, u'd rethink making a comment
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TitaniumAlloy
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posted August 29, 2005 03:09 PM |
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I choose Might and Magic VIII: The Day of the Destroyer.
It's futile battle, but I will battle on nonetheless until Might and Magic 8 is crowned BEST GAME EVER.
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John says to live above hell.
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k1ng
Promising
Famous Hero
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posted August 29, 2005 06:11 PM |
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(yea, maybe title doesn't end up very well)
k1ng
rank : neutral (0 point)
i'd say KOTOR serie is better than Final Fantasy and Might and Magic series. Final Fantasy is turn-based RPG, and you have to wait a certain time to attack, also it takes a bit long to defeat the enemies sometimes. in KOTOR, even that it's still RPG it's unique combat mode makes the battle much easier and fun, you can use healing and force powers without waiting a turn. i'm not sure what to say about Might and Magic, it's a good one but still i think KOTOR is better.
(you gotta start giving a point after your fist post)
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mr_niceguy
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posted August 30, 2005 08:36 AM |
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mr_niceguy
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in final fantasy u dont have to wait VERY long, only about 3 seconds, and most of the time u need the 3 seconds to think of what to do next and see what the enemy does to u. in fact the battle speed can be changes so the waiting time is lessened.
as for the time it takes to defeat an enemy, that is only adding to the difficulty of the game, the only enemies that truly take a long time to defeat are several bosses and that makes sense, a boss is meant to be hard. but if a random battle takes too long to defeat then u can always run anyway, so its not a problem.
i think final fantasy is better than MM8 because its got better (and more) music, as well as better graphics and the characters have a more developed personality and hence contributes to a better story
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a stich in time saves nine... what the hell does that mean?
If u enjoy telling ur friends of how uve never been beaten with ur own legs, u'd rethink making a comment
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2XtremeToTake
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posted September 03, 2005 09:24 AM |
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k1ng you just get your threads mixed up don't you?
You post land of war in tavern, when it belonged in glade, and you post this in glade, when it belongs in tavern.
Anyways ill argue for Warcraft 3: The Frozen throne (hereby referred to as TFT)
TFT is simply the best game, due to many things. For one, it has four completly seperate and totally unique races - Humans, Orcs, Night Elves, and Undead. TFT mixes the best elements of a RPG game, as you are able to hire heroes, to lead your army. These heroes can pick up stat boosting artifacts, and gain levels and new skills. But it keeps its RTS elements, requiring a decent stratigic knowledge, and basic micro-ing skills. Neither of which are hard to attain.
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I almost had a psychic girlfriend but she left me before we met.
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TitaniumAlloy
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posted September 04, 2005 05:13 PM |
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Wow, I almost lost all I wrote just then!
Ok this looks to be a promising thread, I love arguments, although I doubt I'm going to go anywhere on that sliding scale as the only way to do so is to be a complete (insert insult here) and get heaps of bad points, or praise everyones putting down of your game and get walked all over to get good points. Oh well, here goes.
Titanium Alloy (we're not strangers here, you can put a space in)
Rank : Neutral (0 points)
Might and Magic VIII: The Day of the Destroyer is the best game currently in existence.
Hows that for an opening statement?
That of course means it is better than KOTOR, Final Fantasy and TFT, all of which I have played.
KOTOR I did not like at all. It has a mix between turn based and real time fighting mode which leaves you without the benefits of either and the downsides of both. You don't have the time to think and you don't have the instant action of real time. Also the shoddy character creation/development left me disappointed, and the linear (although dual pathed) storyline feels as though the only way you can affect it is the choice between good and evil. The unbalanced skills also cuts you down on fair options in that department so you only have a few decent ways to become strong, and a lot of pointless ones.
In MM8, you can choose between real time and turn based to please yourself. The character creation may not be that effective in a visual sense, but the development is unrivalled as well as the artistic portrait through which you can see what your character looks like with the certain weapons/armour which is one of my favourite aspects. Although you cannot change the storyline it is not one of the aspects boasted, as it is with KOTOR. And you can specialize in whatever skill you like, as I find them balanced.
Final Fantasy. Played it too, never caught my fancy at all. Although I think the graphics are amazing, unrivalled in fact(except maybe by Ninja Gaiden), I don't find that a major selling point in a game. The graphics in MM8 are dodgy, I agree, but I like them, it adds to the feel of the game. Honestly. The music is not to my liking, although I can tell that you love it. It's also a very long game, which is usually a good thing, except it often requires you to walk long, tedious distances and fight many repetitive battles with random spawns. Also the tactics involved are generally just window dressing, it's a choice between attack or defend and it's solved through common sense always, so the tactical point is not developed in my opinion, and the skill of reflexes is not present at all.
And about the personality, well in MM8 the idea is to create your own personality for your characters and to put yourself into them, to make the story yours, rather than following their lead as you do in FF.
And finally, Warcraft, Warcraft, Warcraft. So hard to type, especially three times in a row. I never really looked at this game, I really dismissed it until I played it at a friends house recently, and now it has come to be one of my favourite games. The normal game is relatively linear, however, and VERY repetitive. The only selling point for me was the many custom maps to play on Battlenet like DOTA and Tower Defence, whereas the normal battles always turn out the same. There is so much going on at once and it is difficult to control (like how you can only select a handful of units at a time). It also pisses me off to no end the population cap of 100!! That's terrible, only 50 footmen (if you have NO other units including workers)!
What do I like so much about Might and Magic you ask? Apart from my collection of artifacts, the huge world, the many side quests and the massively explorable lands, is this:
The scene of a thousand slaid corpses laying before you on a battlefield scorched with blood, your party members wounded and the great spoils of war yet to be squandered gives you a great sense of power, power which you worked to achieve and occurs often in Might and Magic VIII.
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mr_niceguy
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posted September 04, 2005 11:56 PM |
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mr_niceguy
rank : neutral (0 point)
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Final Fantasy. Played it too, never caught my fancy at all. Although I think the graphics are amazing, unrivalled in fact(except maybe by Ninja Gaiden), I don't find that a major selling point in a game. The graphics in MM8 are dodgy, I agree, but I like them, it adds to the feel of the game. Honestly. The music is not to my liking, although I can tell that you love it. It's also a very long game, which is usually a good thing, except it often requires you to walk long, tedious distances and fight many repetitive battles with random spawns. Also the tactics involved are generally just window dressing, it's a choice between attack or defend and it's solved through common sense always, so the tactical point is not developed in my opinion, and the skill of reflexes is not present at all.
And about the personality, well in MM8 the idea is to create your own personality for your characters and to put yourself into them, to make the story yours, rather than following their lead as you do in FF.
The graphics in Final Fantasy ARE better than Might and Magic, but if you like the dodgy old school graphics then that is your decision, and might i point our that final fantasy VI has old graphics as well, and though it is a 2D game the graphics in my opinion are better than that of MM8.
but enought about graphics.
The music in FF though isnt AS good in the more later final fantasy's they are incredible in the older ones, some songs have even been played in orchestra shows and i also believe one of the songs was played by an american synchronise swimming team in the olympics, so if you dont like the music that is really your opinion but it seems the majority who have heard it like the music.
The thing about the random battles in FF is that you can escape from them, and if you cant that just shows you dont have enough levels so you have to destroy the random enemy, as for the battle style, i dont see any difference in MM8, all you can do is attack, use a spell, run, go to inventory for item. Infact Final Fantasy has the ability to do more such as, summon, defend, and there are more spells in Final Fantasy Than MM8.
As for skill and reflex, that is slightly required and is used to make quick actions, yet in might and magic, you can turn to turn base mode and take your time.
The idead of the personality of the characters in the FF is to tell an epic story, unlike MM8 where the story is really just a cliche off may other games (all you have to do is collect 4 things to free 4 guys and stop an evil guy) there are not many plot twists, when you hear of someones death you are not alarmed, unlike final fantasy, where when someone dies or something big happens you tend to quietly yell HOLY CRAP!! I NEVER SAW THAT COMING!! and sometimes even cry, like it was a movie or great book.
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a stich in time saves nine... what the hell does that mean?
If u enjoy telling ur friends of how uve never been beaten with ur own legs, u'd rethink making a comment
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TitaniumAlloy
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posted September 05, 2005 10:58 AM |
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You're supposed to add or deduct points to King, 2X and I, btw.
Titanium Alloy
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I choose to give one good point from Mr Niceguy. Although I had some problems with his argument, it wasn't really "Dark" or "Evil" or spiteful or anything, in fact it was good how he agreed to disagree. As he is the only one who has posted since I have, I'll leave it as that for now.
It seems you did not read properly what I wrote last time.
I didn't say the graphics were better in Might and Magic, in fact I admitted that they weren't. But what I said in defence was that I didn't think that that was a selling point of the game, and that MM8's graphics actually add to the experience.
What you said about the music was fine, we have differeing opinions and it's pointless to argue that further.
But about the storyline. You've elaborated on the point made earlier rather than really responded to my comment. I understand you think that the storyline is better, but I said that in MM8 you develop your own storyline to add to the roleplaying experience, you can see yourself or other people in your party members that positively changes your outlook and perspective on the storyline of the game.
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mr_niceguy
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posted September 05, 2005 11:22 AM |
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i dont get the point system... how does it work?
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a stich in time saves nine... what the hell does that mean?
If u enjoy telling ur friends of how uve never been beaten with ur own legs, u'd rethink making a comment
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k1ng
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posted September 05, 2005 11:40 AM |
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Edited By: k1ng on 5 Sep 2005
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k1ng
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You're supposed to add or deduct points to King, 2X and I, btw.
you just got a light point from me for your concern .
ok, about KOTOR,
there have been many RPG games over the years, but none of them have been able to deliver like KOTOR.
it has a unique universe, not like any other Star Wars Games, this one takes in time almost 4000 years ago before the original storyline time of the movies, which is very interesting and fun to explore the story, and understand it.
it is actually hard to define the fighting system of this game, but it's really fun and awesome. one of the thing i like, you can use medpac in the middle of the fight and your character doesn't even bother stop fighting, your heal level would be already increased at once.
especially, i like the way you can upgrade items, pistols, vibroblades and you can build your own lightsaber the way you want it to be, it's like creating your own favorite weapon.
the atmosphere of the game really takes you to it, i can almost feel like i'm in the game talking to people, and doing other stuff. this AI thing is crazy awesome, not only for KOTOR but all other video games. KOTOR 2 has more dark atmosphere compared to first one, i was feeling a bit dizzy after i finished the KOTOR 2, after seeing what has happened to things that i fought for during playing the first game.
also, as you must've known KOTOR was the game of the year in 2003.
so, i enjoy playing it more than other RPG's.
just because this is arguement game doesn't mean we can't also compliment
Final Fantasy - good game, graphics and all, i mostly enjoyed playing the old ones, Final Fantasy 2,3...yet sometimes i still want to play them again, they're 2D but it still rocks.
Might and Magic - i didn't actually get a chance to play that one, but still i'd say it's a good game, the way TA described.
Warcraft 3 - very good game, unique race types and all, one of the best strategy games i'd say.
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i dont get the point system... how does it work?
if you feel like other person insulting you or complaning about your thoughts, give a dark point, if you like their attitude or if you see them respect your comments, give a light point.
by the way thx for mod, who moved the thread.
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