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Thread: Offline addiction intervention?
bjorn190
bjorn190


Responsible
Supreme Hero
Jebus maker
posted November 21, 2005 08:35 PM bonus applied.

Poll Question:
Offline addiction intervention?

Hello.

I have a friend who's started to be offline quite alot. At first he was offline now and then, but then it gradually escalated to be hours at a time, one time he was offline a whole weekend, without even mailing or posting.

I fear this offline addiction may be unhealthy and asocial, and me and some friends are thinking about having an intervention to confront him with the fact that he may be addicted to offline life.

It has also started affecting his game performance and skills, and his win / loss record has gone down since he started being offline so much.

I know people who are offline almost all the time, and Im glad that his situation is not quite so severe. However, it is important we think, to make sure that he understands that he might be on the way to becoming an offline-oholic, and lose track of his online life goals and friends.

His parents are also deeply concerned about the great amounts of time he spends offline instead of being out on the internet playing with friends. And his skin is all tanned like the sun has been shining on it for a long time.

Do you think it's time for an intervention or should we wait and see if he recovers on his own? As I said, we care about him and don't want him to waste his life in an offline world.

Responses:
YES! Intervene ASAP! Resuce him!
No, he has to go online on his own and discover his problems.
Im not sure, maybe
OMG! Your ideas intreague me, and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter. :)
I'm offline alot myself and its nothing to be ashamed of!
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Shiva
Shiva


Promising
Famous Hero
posted November 21, 2005 08:58 PM

I believe its time to implant a chip
in you friends brain. Being off line
is an anti-social activity. How can
big brother track you properly. I'll
bet he turns his cell phone off also.
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Nidhgrin
Nidhgrin


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Famous Hero
baking cookies from stardust
posted November 26, 2005 11:21 PM


Hiya Bjorn

Actually I wouldn't worry too much if I were you.  Sooner or later your friend will realize escaping into the offline world serves no purpose and that no matter how hard he runs, online issues he should be dealing with will catch up with him eventually.

Maybe your friend even needs this temporary escape...  Perhaps the troubles he's facing online are too much to deal with right now, and he first needs to sort things out before picking up his online life again.  The offline world with all its anonymity, where people live beside each other in their little fortresses, were people rarely communicate, seems like an ideal place to work on yourself, no?

If your friend would persist in this addicted, escapist behaviour however, he might be in trouble and will miss out on all the best things of online life  I'm not sure pulling someone out can really be done.  Basically it is your friend who has to realize he's on the wrong path before he can actually change and step back with both feet into the online world.  You can only try to help him realize, and be there as a friend.

Good luck to your friend Bjorn, and keep us informed

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Xarfax111
Xarfax111


Bad-mannered
Supreme Hero
The last hero standing
posted November 30, 2005 01:10 AM

...oh geez!

He needs help!

Maybe his offline addiction will rise! Does he have a "difficult" enviroment? Like meeting all those cool old offline friends from years ago again? The ones u can have a lots of fun with? Oh, oh ...that would it make it hard for him to resist.

Maybe he is already concentrating on his job again! OMG! He would suddenly earn more money and social respect then before...urgs...10 times more then when he met his "real" friends here alone in the comp dark. Then he would be almost lost! Help him!

Oh OHHH Oh ..dont say IT! Not IT! Nono thats not possible..he even has a tan again! Sun is not good for us (it makes reflections on the screen u know). Oh geeez maybe he already made a nice girl and felt in love (besides the normal 3 times sex a day at the beginning). Oh good pleease show mercy for him.

Things will get only complicated for him in offline addictio..hell got lost. Lets get em back ..to our simple life..erm Lifefrom ..the compfreak!

earm..best regards to the community btw
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Rage08
Rage08


Famous Hero
Making it in the real world
posted December 01, 2005 07:18 AM

Oh boy... offline addiction you say?
Yes, well we sure wouldn't want to be living our real lives.  
It is with great difficulty for me to be saying this, but I fear our friend may already be too far gone...
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Russ
Russ


Promising
Supreme Hero
blah, blah, blah
posted December 01, 2005 07:35 PM

HELP HIM!!! RESCUE HIM!!! HE'S YOUR FRIEND!!! DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT!!!

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Elstoner28
Elstoner28

Tavern Dweller
posted December 04, 2005 12:36 PM

Oh my god! You mean he is actually offline for a small portion of the day??? Geez, online for only 23 of the 24 hours in a day??? He MUST have a problem. He might even be doing something extreme like SLEEPING! Quick, get over there, take some glue and stick his eyes to the computer screen! He'll go back to normal like the rest of you guys!
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bjorn190
bjorn190


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Supreme Hero
Jebus maker
posted December 04, 2005 05:26 PM

Dang! Now it's gotten worse!

I heard that he's started to sell the time he is offline to other people, just like on ebay but offline! He calls this "work" but I personally think it should be banned. If you go offline it should be to have fun, not to farm and sell the time and stuff for cash. Takes the fun out of it all, and sucks with all those ppl that "work" 60 hours per week and then can use the money they got from selling their time to buy uber gear online..

I have no idea how he's gonna get out of this ok.. I just hope he realizes soon that he has a problem and comes back online with his friends, and starts living again..

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Rage08
Rage08


Famous Hero
Making it in the real world
posted December 14, 2005 11:29 PM
Edited By: Rage08 on 14 Dec 2005

Kinda makes you think there's a world that we should be living in out there, you know?
But please... disregard these obsene thoughts of mine.  I do indeed realize what I say is purely fiction...
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pandora
pandora


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Legendary Hero
The Chosen One
posted December 17, 2005 12:57 AM
Edited By: pandora on 16 Dec 2005

Bjorn, I feel its extremely important that you help this guy get back online as soon as possible.

Generally I tend not to talk to much about my personal life in the open forums - but for the sake of your friend, I feel I must end my silence.

Some of you may have noticed that I haven't been online very often in the last while, it's because of been... out there. Yes, it's true -- HC Mod Pandora has been out in the Real World

The things that I have been experiencing have been terrifying. In example, when you turn off the computer - the gentle comforting hum you all know so well is gone! Not only is it gone, but it's replaced by voices  not the kind you hear from your speakers - but real human voices...and you can not mute them, or even adjust their volume. They just keep talking. You can try to search for a topic that interests you but if that topic doesn't interest the human being that the voice is coming from - it won't change!

Also, say you feel like lurking... you know what I mean, you want to check out what's going on without being seen and without having to talk back -- well you just can't do it in the real world. If someone catches you trying to hide and listen in on them, they think that you're spying or that you're some sort of pervert: and then they call the police.

Even worse (please make sure that you are sitting before you read this next part)
In the outside world other people can make actual physical contact with you.
Yes, you heard me correctly... They don't just tell you how they'd like to touch you, and how it might feel if they were to do it - they actually DO it!

Oh and another thing...you know how sometimes you have an appointment to play a game or something but you don't feel like getting dressed - so you just play naked? Well trust me...doing that with RL appointments is a very very bad idea - it either leads to the police being called (as in the first lurking scenario) or it leads to a whole lot more of that touching!!! *shudder*

I should warn you as well, once they get you out there - they try to keep you out there. They keep calling you and calling you, every day its something new that you have to do, somewhere new that you have to go... It's a nightmare!!

I have to tell you, I live in Canada, and its winter... I had no idea this was such a cold country.. and that blasted yellow fireball up there, what's it called...ah yes! The sun! If you go outside without protective wear for your eyes, I think you could possibly go blind!

Its truly terrifying, I feel so sorry for your friend as I know what he is going through. You need to bring him back to the safe warming glow of his monitor before it's too late!
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Valeriy
Valeriy

Mage of the Land
Naughty, Naughty Valeriy
posted December 24, 2005 06:54 AM
Edited by Valeriy on 24 Dec 2005

Yeah! I know!

Today, for the first time in a long time, I ventured into this place, the name of which almost breaches the COC - the "beach". The terrain has sort of similar colours to HC, so I figured it would be a safe place to start my daring exploration of this mysterious and dangerous RL.

One of the things people in the RL seem to suffer from is inability to change their avatar. They can do slight alterations - changing what they call "clothing" (apparently people who lost touch with online reality sometimes have two or more different sets of clothing which they use to immitate changing their avatar! Some of that "clothing" even has their custom status written on it, I think they call it "T-shirt" - and you can't just change it in your profile, you have to go somewhere and get one of those "T-shirts" made for every custom status that you want to use. How inefficient.)

Yes, we get born with just one avatar for RL. It sorta keeps changing overtime and people can use those "clothings" to change it some more, some even put something like the new BB Code colours on parts of their face to stand out. Apparently they even have a way to actually change your base avatar! It's some kind of physical (yuck) intervention which costs a lot of "money" (those numbers we use for connection, rent and food, but heaps heaps more, like worth a lifetime of T1 connection!) And some poor souls who lost touch with their true online potential do that thing called "work" that Bjorn explained, for a long long time, just to change their ava. Nothing like HC where you can select from 1000 fully different ones at any time without stupid "clothing" or "money".

Yeah, another thing is communication. Like they tell us about online - how we are apparently so far away from each other. That's nonsense, you should see people in RL in a place like "beach". They sort of seem like there they are, but it's not a custom to approach the ones you don't know. And you can't even HCM them! Proximity my chair! You can't even drop a post somewhere so that they notice it in the "last 10", absolutely useless. If you can only talk to the ones you know, and you can't HCM or post, how are you ever going to chat with anyone? So in the end you just go there with your physical ava, put it in one place, look at other physical avas and the background, which sort of looks like some of the photos online, and that's it. Can't do shmack.

One interesting thing though is that you can actually feel things through your ava, not just see like on screen. Like instead of a bulb at the back of the monitor, there's that bulb on top most of the time. It's really bright and you can't look at it, obviously a poor design, but you can feel it on your ava without looking! It's kinda like when you're in this small room playing Quake with your phat CPU with 4 fans on it, but even more of that. Kinda like when you touch the heatsink, but all over you and without touching anything. The horror!!!

Some avvies were kind of neat, they are better without those "clothing" modifications, but only some of them! I wish I could HCM them or make a post in their forum, but they are strangely unaffected by the absurdity of the whole situation and just look as if nothing is wrong or out of place. Weird. Oh and even if I break the taboo and use that close proximity voice message thing on them, they probably don't know anything about HOMM or HC peeps, so I'm kinda afraid to do that - nobody likes spammers.

Oh one last observation I'll tell you today is that nobody seems to know that I'm admin! They just walk by like they don't know anything, like I'm some noob or something!! Maybe that's because my RL physical ava does not have a turban. And I couldn't check their IP or even find their profile... it's like there's that ava and a stone wall. You know, I didn't like what I saw today, can't imagine ignorant people living their whole life like that. God forbid. Save your friend Bjorn.
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