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Thread: Best Third Level Creature... [ This thread is 7 pages long: 1 2 (3) 4 5 6 7 ]
Lord_Woock
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posted October 18, 2003 06:01 AM

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Of course it is Vampire. I also like Water Elementals and Cyclopes.


Nope. The truth is...

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silx87
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posted October 19, 2003 03:53 PM

no,I think black dragon is the best 3rd lvl creature!
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Dingo
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posted October 19, 2003 04:28 PM

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Of course it is Vampire. I also like Water Elementals and Cyclopes.



I think we are talking about HOMM3.
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LordZXZX
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posted November 02, 2003 11:12 PM

from best to worst:
Cerberi
Grand elves
Royal griffins
Dragonflies
Iron golems
Evil eyes
Ice E's
Wraiths
Orc chiefs
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csarmi
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posted November 03, 2003 05:40 AM

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Of course it is Vampire. I also like Water Elementals and Cyclopes.


I think we are talking about HOMM3.


No one said so. I always talk about heroes 4. Why talking about heroes3 at all? That game is obsolate.
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Lord_Woock
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posted November 03, 2003 11:05 AM

Why talk with csarmi at all? That member is obsolete.
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Sir_Stiven
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posted November 03, 2003 11:07 AM

best lvl 3?

simple answer: none

it all depends on the situation (like most other creature levels)

Grand Elves has been mentioned by many... understandable concidering they bring much fire power for being so cheap. Early in game they also can clear huge areas for you with just centaurs as company playing rampart. And because of you get one "free" build plus unis+castle you can upg. these elves day2. And if being somewhat lucky you can have 10+ grands day2... which will kill most slow enemy units.

drag flies or serpent flies as they are called day1 when you put em on your scouts. A speed 9 scout day 1 is off course a great start and is one of the biggest reasons why many prefer this unit..their speed. Not only because of map speed but also because of combat speed. Drag flies is afterall fortressīs fastest unit and their speed of 13 makes em faster than both fastest tower and stronghold unit. And speed is important in such battles for example if you wanna blitz attack with a mass haste.

Royal Griffins are as OT pointed out great units to pick up retaliation from opponents high level units with because they are fast and have alot of HP for being a 3rd level unit. Like efreet sultans these are also a unit you dont wanna attack hand to hand if they come in big numbers so griffs works great as a sacrifise for opponents shooters too.

Cerbs Not much to add i guess, in a fast inferno army they can attack to reduce shooter guards. Some prefer to use these units as demon fodder too but personally i concider them a useful addition because they can attack many units and attack opponents top creature without being retaliated at.

iron golems Not suprised these got few mentions, but they can make an impact in a fight where tower army needs their shooters protected golems are great with a HP of 35 and is magic resistant. Dont like em early in game though since they usually slow you down bad.

Evil eyes Has a high HP for being a lvl 3 shooter and are rather tough to fight. I prefer eyes above of medusas in game mostly because of number of shots. Also these make great fodder when trying to crash early cons through a shak attack.

Wraiths Would problably kill any lvl 3 unit 1v1 since they get their HP back each turn. But personally i dont like this unit alot. A useful tactic with them would be the "wraith bomb"... meaning you send out scouts wearing nothing except 7 wraiths with one wraith in each slot and then you let them "suck up" your opponents spell points before you launch an attack with your main hero.

Orcs are the lvl 3 unit i like the less.. they make no sense to me whatsoever in a mass attacking town like stronghold. Personally i prefer having wyerns or angels collected from banks to take orcs and clopses "spots". They can be of use really early in game in somewhat tough fights where shooters are needed to tease your opponent to you.

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csarmi
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posted November 03, 2003 12:54 PM

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Why talk with csarmi at all? That member is obsolete.


:-)))

I mean if you want to talk about heroes 3, then you should write something in the topic's name signing it's about that.

Now, as for heroes 3 level 3's - elves are no doubt the best, they just do too much damage.
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Aquaman333
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posted November 03, 2003 10:27 PM

I'm going to go with Royal Griffins, unlimited retal is sweet.
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posted November 04, 2003 03:53 AM
Edited By: Hexa on 4 Nov 2003

edit by Hexa: u are warned now .. next offense will be penalized!@

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Aravis17
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posted August 04, 2006 08:01 PM

I like elves the most - the range is great, and they are right on target. I also like evil eyes and griffins. the laser beam ranged attack is so awesome!! and griffins are excellent fly and attack creatures.

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feanor
feanor

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posted August 15, 2006 06:11 AM

Either Royal Griffins or Cerberi.

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ISuckAtHeros3
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posted August 17, 2006 01:52 PM

my list goes like this

1.Grand elves
2.Royal griffins
3.Cerberi
4.Evil eyes
5.Wraiths
6.Iron golems
7.Ice E's
8.Orc Cheiftans

Grand Elfs shoot twice and are my second favorite shooter in the game
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angelito
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posted August 17, 2006 04:18 PM

And Dragonflies?
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posted August 17, 2006 06:09 PM
Edited by russ at 18:10, 17 Aug 2006.

1. Grand elves <- the most useful unit in Rampart's army, simply out of competition!

2. Iron golems <- the toughest level 3 unit and also the best deal in the game. I don't know why people put them waaay down. They'll turn your griffins into poultry while showing their middle fingers to your hero trying to cast spells on them. Don't be surprised when they end up being the last unit standing.

3. Cerberi, Royal Griffins, Evil Eyes, Dragon Flies <- All of those are decent units, useful in different circumstances.

4. Ice Elementals <- average 2-hex shooters with magic weakness.

5. Wraiths, Orc Cheiftans <- Both are quite useless. Orcs can shoot, but wraiths are great for your scouts.

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Ecoris
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posted August 18, 2006 08:25 AM

I agree that Iron Golems are underestimsted. They're excellent when you're defending your town but they're a bit too slow to be very useful. The grand elf is the best but I'll put the Royal Griffin over the Iron Golem 90% of the time. One should also take the creature growth into account in such a comparison and you get 17 (!) griffins each week while you only get 12 golems ; that's the lowest growth of any level 3 creature (except ice elementals). However, only the orc chieftain is cheaper and golems are excellent vampire killers, but I still prefer the griffin.

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ISuckAtHeros3
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posted August 18, 2006 01:02 PM

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And Dragonflies?


Well dragonflies flat out suck
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angelito
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posted August 18, 2006 04:45 PM

If u know how to use them well, even Archangels are usefull...
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Frick
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posted August 20, 2006 06:12 PM

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I didn't understan, angelito. Sarcasm? Irony?

I like Dragonflies. They tend to last suprisingly long. Nasty, fast and cruel creatures with a VERY usefull special.
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Russ
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posted August 23, 2006 01:29 PM
Edited by russ at 13:31, 23 Aug 2006.

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I agree that Iron Golems are underestimsted. They're excellent when you're defending your town but they're a bit too slow to be very useful. The grand elf is the best but I'll put the Royal Griffin over the Iron Golem 90% of the time. One should also take the creature growth into account in such a comparison and you get 17 (!) griffins each week while you only get 12 golems ; that's the lowest growth of any level 3 creature (except ice elementals). However, only the orc chieftain is cheaper and golems are excellent vampire killers, but I still prefer the griffin.
Golems are excellent everywhere. Defending or attacking. Their speed is not important since the enemy will come to them because of Tower's ranged superiority.

One of the problems with griffins is what you've said - growth, but you've got it the other way around. Most games end on week 3-4. You won't have griffins on week 1. You aren't likely to build the griffin's hoarding dwell on week 2 either (if ever!). The end result? In the final fight their numbers will be lower than any other level 3 creature.

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If u know how to use them well, even Archangels are usefull...
I agree! Angelito knows what he's talking about!

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