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scottm
scottm

Tavern Dweller
posted January 30, 2006 07:12 PM

To Kill for Power: I'm stuck and going insane! Please Help!

I've played most of the good XL Single-Player Heroes III maps (Unleashing the Bloodthirsty, Sander's Folly, the Pen and the Sword, Lord of War, etc. etc.) and have succeeded in figuring out each map in good time.

But I'm really stuck in Tang Wen En's excellent "To Kill for Power".  I've defeated Elleshar, beaten Theodorus, and opened the gate north of Bath'iere (the Rampart town west of the Tempus Valley).  This is where my trouble begins.

I got on the boat north of Bath'iere, sailed north past the lighthouses, disembarked, crossed the penninsula to summon another boat, entered the portal connecting to the underground Cavern of Ignis, summoned another boat, made my way to the cavern that has the quest guard "Defeat Aqua", entered the subterranean gate to find a weak hero that says something like "what are you doing here?" and then dies to my attack.

But after defeating him (this is in the northwest corner) of the map) there is unpassable terrain and I can't find any secret passages/ways to proceed.  I think I need to defeat Androon but can't find him either.  Can any kind soul tell me what do do next?

Thanks much,

Scott

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angelito
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posted January 30, 2006 07:49 PM

I played that map many times, so if u could give me some more details, i can help ya for sure.

1. What seers quests are still to be done?
2. You found the grail already?
3. You killed orange (barbarians) already?
--> If not, u have to visit the seer near a fortress town who needs "Elleshar to be killed" and gives u the spell "waterwalk". Near that seer, u can "waterwalk" a small way and enter the long road (from right to left) to the barbarian lands. (hidden passage to an underground gate there!..)
4. The hero u killed is a quest u will notice later on. You need to come back there again after u killed all conflux heroes.
5. What colors / towntypes have u defeated so far?
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scottm
scottm

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posted January 30, 2006 08:26 PM

Quote:
I played that map many times, so if u could give me some more details, i can help ya for sure.

1. What seers quests are still to be done?
2. You found the grail already?
3. You killed orange (barbarians) already?
--> If not, u have to visit the seer near a fortress town who needs "Elleshar to be killed" and gives u the spell "waterwalk". Near that seer, u can "waterwalk" a small way and enter the long road (from right to left) to the barbarian lands. (hidden passage to an underground gate there!..)
4. The hero u killed is a quest u will notice later on. You need to come back there again after u killed all conflux heroes.
5. What colors / towntypes have u defeated so far?


Quote:
I played that map many times, so if u could give me some more details, i can help ya for sure.

1. What seers quests are still to be done?
2. You found the grail already?
3. You killed orange (barbarians) already?
--> If not, u have to visit the seer near a fortress town who needs "Elleshar to be killed" and gives u the spell "waterwalk". Near that seer, u can "waterwalk" a small way and enter the long road (from right to left) to the barbarian lands. (hidden passage to an underground gate there!..)
4. The hero u killed is a quest u will notice later on. You need to come back there again after u killed all conflux heroes.
5. What colors / towntypes have u defeated so far?


1. Quests still to be done:
  -Bring the five pieces of armor to seer next to home city.
  -Bring the necromancy artifacts to seer next to home city.
  -Find Ring of Life to open gate in Rampart lands.
  -Defeat Aqua to open gate underground in western part of map.
  -Defeat Androon to open the last Forsaken Palace near home city.
  -Bring Tomes of Air Magic, Water Magic, Fire Magic, Earth Magic, and the Orb of Inhibition to seer in cavern of Ignis.
  -Find Sword of Judgement to open Gate southwest of Bath'iere (western Rampart city).

2. I've not found the grail.

3. Yep, killed orange, found waterwalk, cleared that area including the Tower city in the desert.

4. Yeah, I killed Elleshar, completed the quest in the swamp lands.

5. I've beaten everyone but Dark Blue (Androon) and Green (Four Elemental Lords).

Thanks very much for your help,

-Scott

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angelito
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posted January 30, 2006 10:58 PM
Edited by angelito on 30 Jan 2006

Ok...then it seems like i know where u stuck...same happened to me aswell..lol.
There is one boarder guard, which needs the "Sword of Judgment". Some tiles before, there was a boarder guard also, which needs "Badge of courage", which u obviously already solved, coz u didnīt mention it. Thi is the place where u can go on. There is a university on the right side. And perhaps u didnīt pay attention when u opened the boarder guard with the badge of courage, coz right at the next step, it says something about "Students use the back doo entrance.....blablahblah". This was a MAJOR hint...

You can walk BEHIND the university....there is a one-way entrance.....

The necro artefacts can be found near where u started.....where the devils joined ya and u found the gloves and the boots in the first week......volcano...hidden passage.
The 5 breastplates can be found after u opened the last boarder to the devil dwelling....volcano....hidden passage...
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gpalin
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posted January 31, 2006 12:28 AM

Yeah, it took me a LOOOONG time to find that hidden monolith, since you just can't see it.  The "hint" about the backdoor, I thought was referring to the quest guard requiring the Sword of Judgment.  Some of the secret passages in this map are really tricky to find!
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scottm
scottm

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posted January 31, 2006 03:23 AM

Quote:
Yeah, it took me a LOOOONG time to find that hidden monolith, since you just can't see it.  The "hint" about the backdoor, I thought was referring to the quest guard requiring the Sword of Judgment.  Some of the secret passages in this map are really tricky to find!


Yeah, that's what I thought too.  Thanks much for the help and to Fiery Phoenix for making such an excellent map.  For those of you who are thinking about making XL Maps Single-Hero and storyline oriented in Heroes V, you might want to check out the following for excellent ideas:

1. Sander's Folly
2. The Angellic Pride Series
3. The Pen and the Sword
4. The Lord of War
5. Unleashing the Bloodthirsty
6. To Kill for Power
7. Running with the Devil

There are others that I will post as I think of them, but thanks very much to all the authors of the above-mentioned maps for their blood, sweat, and tears in ensuring HOMM endures as one of the best turn-based strategy games ever.

-Scott

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specialist
specialist

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posted December 15, 2008 12:12 PM

I too have played most popular XL maps Scott mentioned above. However I have stucked a place before him... I have entered the valley of tempus defeated the enchanters rescued the hero from the prison. However, i cannot defeat Elleshar... Author of the map states that the rescued hero should defeat him but with no army how is he supposed to do that i cannot see...

I would really appreciate if anyone can help...


Thank you for your time...

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angelito
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posted December 15, 2008 12:41 PM

Quote:
I too have played most popular XL maps Scott mentioned above. However I have stucked a place before him... I have entered the valley of tempus defeated the enchanters rescued the hero from the prison. However, i cannot defeat Elleshar... Author of the map states that the rescued hero should defeat him but with no army how is he supposed to do that i cannot see...

I would really appreciate if anyone can help...


Thank you for your time...

You do not need to defeat him right away. There is much to be done before you kill him. The reason why the prisoned hero (Xarfax) has to kill Elleshar is, your main isn't able to get into that area again. He can only access to the whirpool to the east (Which he will access after he conquered a conflux town near swamp area...), but he cannot land. Xarfax has to take his army at that time, including his best artefacts (and resurrection scroll!!). Xarfax should also visit all stat boosters around, and finally take the box guarded by a "color" guard. After that, his stats and spells are enough to beat Elleshar without loosing too much army. After the fight he can give most army back to main, and only keep several archdevils himself and go sailing northwest of Elleshar's homelands (you have to keep an artefact on Xarfax to be able to pass a guard there....)
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specialist
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posted December 15, 2008 12:47 PM

Once again Heroes Community proved to be the best HoMM forum on the net!!! Thank you so much Angelito... Your answer was really fast =)



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vzar
vzar

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posted March 06, 2009 04:40 PM
Edited by vzar at 16:40, 06 Mar 2009.

completed

Wow! I've finished the scenario for a half of 3 days, how fantastic it is!!!
However, I only got 251 score marks and the Royal Griffin rank, how did you get ?
Many thanks to both the free supporter and the map creator, wonderful one, make me strongly recommended and stay along with heroes 3 forever!
Have a super day!
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angelito
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posted March 06, 2009 06:56 PM

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However, I only got 251 score marks and the Royal Griffin rank, how did you get ?
If you want a higher score, raise the difficulty. I assume you played the map on 130%. Try again on 200% (impossible), and your score will be between 400 and 500
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koliovini
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posted May 25, 2009 11:00 AM

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However, I only got 251 score marks and the Royal Griffin rank, how did you get ?
If you want a higher score, raise the difficulty. I assume you played the map on 130%. Try again on 200% (impossible), and your score will be between 400 and 500


hello guys
I am stuck in the begining of To kill for power. both of quest guards around snow area in the bottom of the map want Pendant of totall recall. I try to find secret passage(with map editor) around but unseccessfully. Could you give me a hint please? thank you for your time
ps purpul is killed also Aine and Daremyth

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angelito
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posted May 25, 2009 11:17 AM

You visited the light blue tent?

You can go around one of your Tower towns...light blue boarder....
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koliovini
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posted May 25, 2009 11:50 AM

Quote:
You visited the light blue tent?

You can go around one of your Tower towns...light blue boarder....

yes i visit light blue border and near the conflux, just befor have quest guard want Pendand of totall recall. There is one more quest guard near to the second tower on the bottom, which also want Pendant of totall recall. I check everyting with map edotor but nothing to help me. Do you have some hints please?

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koliovini
koliovini

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posted May 25, 2009 11:59 AM

Quote:
Quote:
You visited the light blue tent?

You can go around one of your Tower towns...light blue boarder....

yes i visit light blue border and near the conflux, just befor have quest guard want Pendand of totall recall. There is one more quest guard near to the second tower on the bottom, which also want Pendant of totall recall. I check everyting with map edotor but nothing to help me. Do you have some hints please?

sorry mate i am stuped - find the way near by

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triv
triv

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posted July 13, 2009 03:04 PM

Hope you don't mind me using this thread too.

I am stuck on this same map. I don't know where I am supposed to go next. I have gotten the pendant of (can't remember name) from valley of tempus and opened up the way to the cavern of (earth?). Afterwards I found the throngs of titans around cavern of aeris and killed all of them. But I can't figure out where to go next. Please help!

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angelito
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posted July 13, 2009 03:25 PM

To the east of the "eastern" Tower town, is a hidden path...directed into gras area. Have you been there already?
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triv
triv

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posted July 13, 2009 06:52 PM

Thanks I hadn't noticed that before. I didn't know at that time there were hidden passages.

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angelito
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posted July 13, 2009 07:52 PM

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Thanks I hadn't noticed that before. I didn't know at that time there were hidden passages.
You will find a lot more of those...
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triv
triv

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posted July 14, 2009 11:41 AM

Ok, stuck again. I have visited the Cavern of Aqua and found the hidden spell scroll from there. Then I killed Tan (Fortress). Afterwards up in the north I found the grail diggers. No, I haven't found the grail. According to the tips I'm on 12. Where is Cavern of Terra? I assume I need to find it next to move forward. Thanks again.

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