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xlnt
xlnt


Known Hero
posted September 04, 2009 05:04 PM

That's how JEBUS temp IS played.

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arnenzo0
arnenzo0

Tavern Dweller
posted September 04, 2009 05:34 PM

U can do this in any template not just in JEBUS it doesnt matter how rich it is

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dimis
dimis


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posted September 04, 2009 07:29 PM
Edited by dimis at 20:23, 04 Sep 2009.

my 2 cents

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And if you read my first post on this page, you see that I mentioned that he posted some bad advices too, but this doesn't make his whole post nonsense.
All in all I like his post, especially for someone who is new to our community. And the library lacks in quality lately, so I don't see any problems rewarding a post like this.
Just for the record, I second that one. Library needs new blood.

Of course, I also think that the post by arnenzo0 also deserves a QP (even though I think it belongs to the - now abandoned - thread by tigris, How to attack special buildings effectively). It really is a good post for newbies in HC.
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Lumske_Beaver
Lumske_Beaver


Adventuring Hero
posted September 04, 2009 08:34 PM
Edited by angelito at 21:08, 04 Sep 2009.

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I assume that MP players are more skilled than SP players, do you agree? Also, Lumske_Beaver didn't mention that he is writing advises for SP players.


I'm glad that you critizise and respond on my messages. I'm not as skilled as any of the vets at all. These kinds of criticism only make me a better. I can't write more than I know and when I write these posts it is not to give other playes advices because I know that nealy all of the people in here already know it all and then it would be totally superfluous. It's not to get qp's either; I'm writing them to get response from advanced players like maretti and SAG to find out what can be improved. So there's no reason for defending me, Angelito, I perceive their respond as a help.

To maretti: About the quantity I know my post are probably too explaining, and when you're not that experienced it you usually have to use more space to explain what you want. You've to understand that I haven't played this game for long, and I'm very young compared to most of you. First this year I have really "understood" this game and my eyes have opened for the millions of opportunities this game includes.

To Jolly Joker: I know that there is some mistakes, but most of these is because of that I posted a quite bad message before this, and then I improved and changed it in to the one in this thread. Obviosly I did't correct all of the mistakes.

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maretti
maretti


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posted September 05, 2009 01:30 AM

"And why do you always have to check if a post fits to multiplayer standard?"

Most of these advises are bad for both single and multiplayer.

"If the so called vets would post more quality instead of ranting, we would probably have different posts in between the "top 2%", which are normaly rewarded."

Quality is posted now and then even by the socalled vets, but very rarely rewarded. Post under 50 lines can also contain quality.

0,4 % of my posts have recieved QPs, so I guess the quality of my posts is way below average.


"So if you play dungeon on 200% on a poor template, you play different than on 130% jebus, or don't you agree?"

These advises are not good under any cercumstance.



"Of course, I also think that the post by arnenzo0 also deserves a QP"

Come on man! I expected more from you. You do have 9 QPs.
Are you awear that the dragons in some cases will hit the big stack of trogs round 2, which means you are dead? Futhermore, why not hit the dragons with single stacks of trogs and just keep 2 of the single stacks next to each other? Futhermore why not level Shakti up just a little bit or bring some more army so you avoid risking a suicide and you avoid losing 40 or more trogs? Just because you have 2 dragons you still need your trogs as powerstack. At least make sure you can get a load before you make this move. Also moral to the dragons will allmost surely kill you.


"Library needs new blood."

I wonder what you mean by blood.
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uruk-hai
uruk-hai


Adventuring Hero
posted September 05, 2009 01:51 AM

I agree with maretti on the dragons issue. That was a suicide attack entering with those number of trogs! Morale, or attacking your power stack is death

level up and return after couple days is best option...

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arnenzo0
arnenzo0

Tavern Dweller
posted September 05, 2009 02:04 AM
Edited by arnenzo0 at 02:17, 05 Sep 2009.


well what can i say at least i tried
as im not a good player im a noob but i still think 40 - 50 trogs worth 2 dragons day 2 i might be wrong and i wonder what army will u bring 1st week to capture the dwell? 4 meduzas? minotaurs? manticores? or u try to capture other dwells ? - well in that way u risk to get some other creatures in Portal of summoning not dragons morale - yes you are right about this i just took example on TE version in my opinion its OK to take a dwell day 1 or 2 this is the best option to fight against archers in first days but thats just my opinion but i know you are better player have more knowledge about a game then me so im sure u r right!

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arnenzo0
arnenzo0

Tavern Dweller
posted September 05, 2009 02:32 AM

im trying to do that 10 times now but still dragons atack the same way

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Salamandre
Salamandre


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Wog refugee
posted September 05, 2009 02:36 AM

How to beat 3 dragons day 2 with Shakti
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arnenzo0
arnenzo0

Tavern Dweller
posted September 05, 2009 02:54 AM

Quote:
How to beat 3 dragons day 2 with Shakti


hmm i cant see captured dwell day 2 here

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Salamandre
Salamandre


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Omnipresent Hero
Wog refugee
posted September 05, 2009 04:25 AM

Was it day 3? I can't right now check the saves, game isn't working. I am sure it is not later than day 3.
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uruk-hai
uruk-hai


Adventuring Hero
posted September 05, 2009 05:17 AM

It is possible and easy to flag a drag dwell day 1 with shakti but i will take it only if i have 100+ trogs I did it 1 time day 1 and several times week 1...

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Paladin_H3
Paladin_H3


Hired Hero
posted September 05, 2009 06:27 AM
Edited by Paladin_H3 at 06:28, 05 Sep 2009.

Quote:
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"Are you awear that the dragons in some cases will hit the big stack of trogs round 2, which means you are dead? Futhermore, why not hit the dragons with single stacks of trogs and just keep 2 of the single stacks next to each other? Futhermore why not level Shakti up just a little bit or bring some more army so you avoid risking a suicide and you avoid losing 40 or more trogs? Just because you have 2 dragons you still need your trogs as powerstack. At least make sure you can get a load before you make this move. Also moral to the dragons will allmost surely kill you.


I think its also worth mentioning that more than taking the dwell, usually the gaurd stack can be a real problem. SO taking that into mind, it might not most of the time be walkthrough as shown by the example.

P.s I could be wrong but I have a feeling that exanple was well rehersed, in a real time game situation I am sure most would agree that that would have not been a risk to take, specially when know so little about the map (on day 1).

Also you've wasted a day on upgrading them, which could come at a cost.

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dimis
dimis


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posted September 05, 2009 08:44 AM
Edited by dimis at 09:04, 05 Sep 2009.

maretti, all I am saying is that some newbies in HC should be encouraged. And I guess this is the point of the QP by angelito.

And although you don't say it, I think that the standards for vets are set way too high. And to that I also agree (if you don't believe the same thing, then I do - I believe this is clear). And of course some vets around should have had more QPs (including you).

But all these are really offtopic here. May be we should take the entire discussion in the feedback? This has nothing to do (in my eyes) with the specific posts. Do you honestly believe if Lumske tries a similar narrative for another faction he will be awarded a qp ?
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JollyJoker
JollyJoker


Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
posted September 05, 2009 11:55 AM

I will make the clear statement, that this move - taking the Dragon Dwelling on day 1 - is just a show-move. The reason for this is, that it's simply not necessary. On this difficulty level, with that kind of "rewarding" map you are GUARANTEED to be able to take the Dragon dwelling within week 1 (and Shakti or not), which is all that is necessary. It would be basically enough to do it day 7, building the Portal of Summoning THEN, and recruiting the 2 Dragons THEN (albeit it can be done earlier, if convenient).

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angelito
angelito


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posted September 05, 2009 01:22 PM

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maretti, all I am saying is that some newbies in HC should be encouraged. And I guess this is the point of the QP by angelito.
Finally someone who got the point..
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maretti
maretti


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posted September 05, 2009 05:21 PM
Edited by maretti at 17:35, 05 Sep 2009.

@Arnenzo: Its not like im saying its a worthless post. Its interesting to show that its possible to make the battle day 1 and ofcourse theres some work behind making all those pictures. Im just saying I would do certain things diffrently. Most important is to level shak up a bit, so he has something like 4 4 and exp off. Thats normally possible in 1 or 2 days. In the mean while you move your scouts out so that you know where to move shak after you got the dragons. I dont know TE but in SOD you should have more trogs you can bring and you can bring some fodder too. Harpies are worthless anyway so bring them too.

@Lumske_Beaver: I dont find it to explaining. The style is good, its the content im talking about. You can see Sags post about it and I could add more. Im glad you take my critizism as well as you do. I was really not trying to attack you allthough it might look that way.


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uruk-hai
uruk-hai


Adventuring Hero
posted September 05, 2009 08:56 PM

I would like to see maretti post about all towns. I read the stronghold post and was great, like to see other towns too maretti. What you think? You have time?

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Casihasi
Casihasi


Known Hero
posted September 05, 2009 10:30 PM

think iŽll install h3 again soon, just to kick some Jebus players butt

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Lumske_Beaver
Lumske_Beaver


Adventuring Hero
posted September 05, 2009 10:42 PM

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@Lumske_Beaver: I dont find it to explaining. The style is good, its the content im talking about. You can see Sags post about it and I could add more. Im glad you take my critizism as well as you do. I was really not trying to attack you allthough it might look that way.


Why should understand it a an attack when you are correcting me. As a wrote before I make these kind of post to get critical respond and I have learned much by doing it. Also it was to start this thread up again since there wasn't much about Dungeon compared to Angelito's other threads about towns, I would see if I could get some respond on my post and start a discussion, which actually suceed.

You have to understand that I really do not care about rewards, I care about improving my game and therefore i'm posting these messages. If a haven't wrote this message nobody has been writing anything about dungeon, and I haven't learned anything

To Angelito: I understand that my post actually not deserve a reward and I don't become encourage to post other messages by getting a reward, especially if I don't deserve it. I want you to remove it if the only reason for that you were giving it to me was to encourage me!!!

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