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Thread: Heroes 3 Town Rating -INFERNO- This thread is 10 pages long: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 · «PREV
Ebonheart
Ebonheart


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posted July 04, 2016 09:14 PM
Edited by Ebonheart at 22:23, 04 Jul 2016.

It's simple Pheonix, you do demon farming where losses ARE expect or battles that requires or can use fodder.

For example, a Naga Bank is a good demon farming place. Because you can use the intended demon-farm stack as bait and if it does not die, leave one naga stack alive and let them kill them since their attacks can't be retaliated.

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Anil
Anil


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posted July 04, 2016 09:32 PM

I think hit and run is best inferno tactic.

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Ebonheart
Ebonheart


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Rush the rush
posted July 04, 2016 09:38 PM
Edited by Ebonheart at 21:39, 04 Jul 2016.

Anil said:
I think hit and run is best inferno tactic.

Id say that is best for Conflux or Dungeon. Besides, you can still do H&R and demon farm at the same time.

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Anil
Anil


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posted July 04, 2016 09:50 PM

Anyone can upload a video about of effective demon farming and hit and run tactic for inferno?

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Ebonheart
Ebonheart


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posted July 04, 2016 10:21 PM

Please Anil read the following text carefully:

1. Inferno is a very hard town to play, even the best of the best can't fully operate it at all times. It takes a lot of practise, patience and understanding of not only the town itself, but the overall game as well.

2. Demon farming is not something special. An example: You buy 7x Hell Hounds. Go into a difficult battle, send the dogs in and use them as bait/soak retaliation and raise them when there is only 1 enemy unit left. Voila! Your 7x Hell Hounds have become 5x Demons.
The more demons you acquire, the more safe the stack will be as the AI avoids stronger stacks in favour of weaker ones.
There is nothing more to this or some sort of secret of demon farming. You buy the required troops to raise as much HP as possible, send them into the fray while you kill everything but 1 unit, raise them and then finish off the last unit.

3. Start learning how online gaming works first and do this with the town you like the most, which from what I understand is Castle/Dungeon.

Good luck!

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phoenix4ever
phoenix4ever


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posted July 04, 2016 11:06 PM

Just curious but why do you say Inferno is one of the hardest towns to play, if it is'nt for demon farming?
I think Inferno is very easy to play, a lot easier than my favorite faction Fortress, because they have speed and 2 units without reatalition and town is very easy to build up also on impossible. Also when you play without town portal Castle Gate can be handy if you can find a second Inferno.
If you don't use chains and town portal I guess demon farming will become very difficult though...

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revolut1oN
revolut1oN


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posted July 05, 2016 12:08 AM

Fortress gameplay is simple as stick

2nd day go wyvern
build all ultra cheap stuff even on impossible
choose tazar
creep fast and strong thanks to hydras and gain considerable advantage in level and artifacts. Relatively safe Utopia creep with hydras and shield

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Ebonheart
Ebonheart


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posted July 05, 2016 12:15 AM

There are many things that makes the Inferno hard, but I will list the ones I can think of atm.

1. The Inferno starting army can be surprisingly tough, but since demon farming is your goal, losing as much as 10 imps can be a bummer, let alone more troops. The focus on not losing units can almost drive you mad.
2. Very vulnerable to double morale.
3. Efreets and Devils are quick and hard hitting, but also pretty soft.
4. Only one shooter, which often comes in low numbers, means you cannot soften enemies up.
5. You cannot demon farm until M1W2D2 - this means the coming days will be even more stressful compared to other towns, for you must worry about sacrificing demons on top of clearing the map.
6. Because of demon farming, you got practically no fodder units. You also got no good kite unit apart from your Efreets, which can be risky to use for kiting.
7. While it is a less concern for a used player, the amounts of gold needed can make you sweat even more than with the Tower.
8. Lava terrain is not exactly the most resourceful place.
9. Pretty much all dwells on the map are painful to fight because of the high speed of Inferno troops.
10. Luck decides a lot. For example your demon stack can change greatly depending on when you can flag your secondary towns and also depending on what towns they are. If both are Castle/Rampart you get a lot of demons, if Necropolis or Conflux you get none.

There are many more factors, but these are the ones concerning the map.

As for Fortress, it is much more simple. Like Revolution said, get Wyverns on D1/D2 and keep clearing until you get Hydras. It is easy to take Fly-Cons during the first week and the Wyvern power stack is handy. Although I prefer to go with a Barbarian rather than Tazar, but that's up to you as a player to decide.

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bloodsucker
bloodsucker


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posted July 05, 2016 12:18 AM
Edited by bloodsucker at 00:26, 05 Jul 2016.

I've been trying some demon farming from time to time (cause I got free Pit Fiends with Diplomacy) and I think is worth mention you want to farm with weak heroes. Once I got a Vidomina with Diplomacy, Cloack and Pit Fiends (for tradig purposes only, sell or sacrifize the liches and demons to get better heroes or more resources). After a while it was almost impossible, I would have to go with a new stack of level 1 to fight a stack of level 4 or 5, cause everything of closer levels would survive the fight with at least a few units. I remember to have imps jumping around in front of marksmen (more then them), survive till the marksmen exaust their ammo and then kill them with the retalions, 5 survived...

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Salamandre
Salamandre


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Wog refugee
posted July 05, 2016 12:19 AM
Edited by Salamandre at 00:20, 05 Jul 2016.

I don't know how you do, keeping trying and get no attention but same robotic answers. If it was me:



@Edit: was for Ebo, I see BS ninjated between.

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Ebonheart
Ebonheart


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Rush the rush
posted July 05, 2016 12:26 AM
Edited by Ebonheart at 00:32, 05 Jul 2016.

Hehe well Sal, hopefully a miracle will happen and they will pick it up, or I will be so exhausted that I can't tell the difference between getting a red star(s) or yellow ones from exasperation.
I guess this will be me when Anil is to take the H3 online license. xD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrBFb_peCUI
Me: Purple guy, Anil: Goku.

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bloodsucker
bloodsucker


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posted July 05, 2016 12:48 AM

Salamandre said:
@Edit: was for Ebo, I see BS ninjated between.
Yeah, I foud it confusing cause that kind of endurance was exactly my problem...

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Salamandre
Salamandre


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Wog refugee
posted July 05, 2016 01:15 AM

Oh and Era owns all. :P

!#UN:C5928811/1/$;  [Pit lords summon $ type (insert 13 and they will summon archangels lol)]
____________
All my Era II mods

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Anil
Anil


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posted July 05, 2016 01:34 AM

phoenix4ever said:
Just curious but why do you say Inferno is one of the hardest towns to play, if it is'nt for demon farming?
I think Inferno is very easy to play, a lot easier than my favorite faction Fortress, because they have speed and 2 units without reatalition and town is very easy to build up also on impossible. Also when you play without town portal Castle Gate can be handy if you can find a second Inferno.
If you don't use chains and town portal I guess demon farming will become very difficult though...

Inferno isn't one of the hardest town, Inferno is hardest town to play because Inferno has a lot of disadvantage;

Lack Hero Department
Lack Shooters
Lack Tanky unit.
Your units are expensive fragile and weak only 2 acceptable unit (Cerberus and Efreet Sultan).
Castle gate is only useful on specific maps.
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phoenix4ever
phoenix4ever


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Heroes is love, Heroes is life
posted July 05, 2016 08:48 AM

Maybe I'm just good with Inferno and I don't even demon farm. Also things seems to go very easy when playing (a nerfed) Conflux or Cove. Strongholds units gets destroyed due to lack of speed, defense and spells and Fortress is also harder to play. I know you can always choose Crag Hack and Tazar, but that gets boring after a while, so I always pick random starting hero to make things different.

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Ebonheart
Ebonheart


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Rush the rush
posted July 05, 2016 09:30 AM

If I am not misstaken, Inferno got super buffed 3.5?

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phoenix4ever
phoenix4ever


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posted July 05, 2016 09:54 AM

3.5? You mean HotA?
Inferno did get buffed, but not so much. You can control Magogs fireball and Arch Devils gives -2 Luck and negative luck was introduced.

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Salamandre
Salamandre


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posted July 05, 2016 09:55 AM
Edited by Salamandre at 09:56, 05 Jul 2016.

Nono, officially is same, just pointing out that within very few lines of codes, you can modify them to match your expectations. In 3.5 there is no such thing as "weak, strong", the things are what you want them to be.

3.5 is wog.

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Ebonheart
Ebonheart


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Rush the rush
posted July 05, 2016 12:28 PM

I can't keep track of all those expansions. I prefer the good old version, it most home for me

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Golemlord
Golemlord

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posted May 05, 2017 01:08 PM

Some thoughts about Inferno.

Good things:
- Castle Gate can be one of the most powerful special buildings. In large maps with several Infernos Castle Gates can change a game. In combination with the Order of Fire you can improve starting heroes a lot.
- Archdevils in combination with blinding (okay, it is unfair...)
- high chance to get mighty combat spells (fire): sacrifice, berserk, blind), armageddon)
- Pit Lords and Demons (farming) and Cerberi grant a strong infantry; Imps are perfect sacrifices for farming

Bad things:
- Brimstone Clouds
- Ammo Cart (Ballista would be much better)
- Grail Building (it needles in huge maps, when Imps stand everywhere)
- no one of the top-heroes
- heroes can't sacrifice artefacts

I always try to get Fire-Magic here, even I avoid to use bererk because it is unfair against AI. Tactics and Offense I like here too.

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