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Heroes Community > Library of Enlightenment > Thread: Heroes 3 Town Rating -NECROPOLIS-
Thread: Heroes 3 Town Rating -NECROPOLIS- This thread is 4 pages long: 1 2 3 4 · «PREV / NEXT»
Anil
Anil


Known Hero
posted May 03, 2016 09:16 PM
Edited by Anil at 22:04, 03 May 2016.

ComradeX said:
The liches are the towns only shooters, and they don't function well at this role. They are weak, have relatively low skills and HP, and the death cloud ability, as good as it may be against living creatures it is not enough.


Power Liches are not weak. 40 HP is good for 5.th level shooters. e.g Zealots are 5.th level creature but have 30 HP. Grand Elves 15, Marksmen 10. Anyway all shooters have low hp than foot soldiers. This is normal.
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ebonheart
ebonheart


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Rush the rush
posted May 03, 2016 10:56 PM

Anil said:
ComradeX said:
Power Liches are not weak. 40 HP is good for 5.th level shooters. e.g Zealots are 5.th level creature but have 30 HP. Grand Elves 15, Marksmen 10. Anyway all shooters have low hp than foot soldiers. This is normal.

Titans got 300 hp which is more than what some melee lv 7s have and Power Liches are not all bad, it's just that they aren't that good. They have low HP, hand to hand penalty, death cloud seldomly becomes useful and on top of this a pretty high price.

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Salamandre
Salamandre


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posted May 03, 2016 11:08 PM

HP means nothing for shooters when you can so easily forgetfulness or blind them. On the other side, titans and liches, you will feel it.

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Anil
Anil


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posted May 04, 2016 12:43 PM

If Power Liches are weak, why Necropolis banned in multiplayer games? Necropolis looks like below average town if Power Liches are weak.
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ebonheart
ebonheart


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posted May 04, 2016 01:08 PM
Edited by ebonheart at 13:08, 04 May 2016.

Because of the Necromancy Skill, Vampire Lords, Dread Knights, Skeleton Transformer, the nature of Undead monsters (immune to blind, berserk etc), cannot have negative morale (and good morale, but when cleaning the map morale artifacts are rare not to mention negative morale has the double % chance to occur).
Animate Dead is even more powerful than resurrection since you do not need expert earth magic for the resurrected troops to remain, it is lv 3 and can also be gained via Thant.
Split-Wraith-Drain tactic is obnoxious for a enemy caster, cleaved-aging tactic with GDs.

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Anil
Anil


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posted May 04, 2016 02:43 PM

I really wonder what is your town rating? (including Necropolis and Conflux)

I always belive no need banned Necropolis. Not overpowered town.
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ebonheart
ebonheart


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posted May 04, 2016 02:50 PM

1. Conflux
2. Necropolis
3. Tower
4. Inferno
5. Stronghold
6. Dungeon
7. Rampart
8. Castle
9. Fortress
Enjoy.

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zombiewhacker
zombiewhacker


Adventuring Hero
posted May 06, 2016 10:39 PM

Xarfax111 said:
... you can turn dragons and hydras into ghost dragons...



Don't snicker guys, but I did not know this.  How exactly do you convert other dragons/hydras into ghost dragons?

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OhforfSake
OhforfSake


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Legendary Hero
Initiate
posted May 06, 2016 11:13 PM

Use the Skeleton Transformer and Upg. from Skeleton Dragons to Ghost Dragons.

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phoenix4ever
phoenix4ever


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Heroes is love, Heroes is life
posted June 20, 2016 08:23 AM

I never understood why Mirth, Resurrection and Sacrifice can appear in Necropolis' Mage Guild, as those spells are completely useless to them.

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LizardWarrior
LizardWarrior


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Age of erwins is over
posted June 20, 2016 09:28 AM

Because of wyverns and angels And it makes sense to get Resurrection in a necropolis, no?
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bloodsucker
bloodsucker


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posted June 20, 2016 09:41 AM

Maybe because if someone desabled TP you need to spend a week transporting those green dragons to the next Skeleton Transformer...

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phoenix4ever
phoenix4ever


Supreme Hero
Heroes is love, Heroes is life
posted June 20, 2016 09:55 AM

@LizardWarrior Yeah I guess it's because of Wyverns and Angels.
Animate Dead makes sense to me, but Resurrection does'nt. You won't find Animate Dead at Castle either...

@bloodsucker What does Green Dragons and TP have to do with anything?

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Anil
Anil


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posted June 21, 2016 12:25 AM

Yes i hate see to Mirth, Resurrection and Sacrifice in Necro Mage Guild. Necropolis could be more funny if they have morale.
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Ebonheart
Ebonheart


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Rush the rush
posted June 21, 2016 08:57 AM

Anil said:
Yes i hate see to Mirth, Resurrection and Sacrifice in Necro Mage Guild. Necropolis could be more funny if they have morale.

Undead nature plus the ability to gain positive morale - sounds balanced!

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x-ecutionner
x-ecutionner


Known Hero
posted June 30, 2016 11:12 AM

ebonheart said:
1. Conflux
2. Necropolis
3. Tower
4. Inferno
5. Stronghold
6. Dungeon
7. Rampart
8. Castle
9. Fortress
Enjoy.



Although I'm better on Heroes 2 theorycrafting than on Heroes 3 (when I used to see frank then nowadays maretti playing i feel like a noob)
I would say your list is considering no rules and XL format right?

On XL a high level player will be so efficient at skellies farming Necro is almost as strong as conflux.
Tower with level 5 mage guild, Titans, dimensions doors and full gold is just extremely strong.
Inferno sucks until you optimize your demon farming potential on XL map, then it becomes unstoppable by lower factions. Also Efreet and to some extents ArchDevil are good.
Stronghold is good all around on small/ big map / low / high resources, very complete faction with the second strongest lvl7 (AB)
Dungeon is another super solid faction, with no real weaknesses..
Fortress while not weak, doesn't shine particularly on L/XL map and even when you manage to capture fast second town, you are still handicapped by your first town dwelling/ faction traits

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Ebonheart
Ebonheart


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Rush the rush
posted June 30, 2016 11:37 AM
Edited by Ebonheart at 11:40, 30 Jun 2016.

The only reason conflux is on top is because a rush will eliminate Necro during W2/Early W3. After that the skeletons will be out of control.
Dungeon got its weaknesses, but it is a balanced town. Has a few disadvantages vs the map though.
Fortress could use a little boost but I have tried it a couple of times and it works pretty good.

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Anil
Anil


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posted June 30, 2016 05:39 PM
Edited by Anil at 17:45, 30 Jun 2016.

Conflux: Best town i think. Has a lot of advantage; The fastest town in the game, not expensive, 2.nd most hp per week. 4 gold speciality hero, good native terrain, Easy clean to maps with low level troops, best grail. Water magic is essential i think.


Dungeon is very map depends. Dungeon has statistically has worst damage potantial and worst HP till Black Dragons. Dungeon army isn't ready to battle without Black Dragons.
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Ebonheart
Ebonheart


Famous Hero
Rush the rush
posted June 30, 2016 05:50 PM

Anil said:
Conflux: Best town i think. Has a lot of advantage; The fastest town in the game, not expensive, 2.nd most hp per week. 4 gold speciality hero, good native terrain, Easy clean to maps with low level troops, best grail. Water magic is essential i think.

Tower and Inferno are weak towns.

Dungeon is very map depends. Dungeon has statistically has worst damage potantial and worst HP till Black Dragons. Dungeon army isn't ready to battle without Black Dragons.

Anil please, enough trolling and if you are not trolling, may I ask where you are from so I can at least get a hang on what culture you embrace so I can try a different approach?

Dungeon is one of the best towns pre 7th dwell because the two shooters and high damage of minotaurs/troglodytes combined with the baiting of harpies is very powerful. They have -1 speed but they are still good. The downside imo is the dependance of the lv 2 dwell to be pre built and the annoying 7th dwelling fights.

Tower and Inferno - I trust I have cowered these enough?

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Anil
Anil


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posted June 30, 2016 05:51 PM

http://www.celestialheavens.com/viewpage.php?id=442

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