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LegendMaker
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The Metal Specialist
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posted April 07, 2006 04:00 PM |
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I only visit them with scouts who won't have many skills, so the odds are pretty low for advancement.
A Scholar preordained to give "Basic Wisdom" will in fact give "Advanced Wisdom" to a hero who already has Basic Wisdom. Or Expert if he has advanced, of course.
And also, if a Scholar was preordained to give a secondary skill that the visiting hero doesn't have at all AND that Hero has ALL 8 Slots already full, then the Scholar will give a +1 Primary Skill instead !
(quick opinion : hence, yeah, those cursed crap-giving Scholars actually turn into really cool bonus-givers as soon as you already have your 8 Sec Skills !  )
The Flashback Legend.
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william
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
LummoxLewis
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posted April 08, 2006 09:47 AM |
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I had Sir Mullich as my Main hero.
I had some Phoenixs.
The Phoenix has a speed of 21.
so:
Sir Mullich unique ability +2 speed
Necklace of Swiftness +1 speed
Ring of the Wayfarer +1 speed
Cape of Velocity +2 speed
Expert Haste +5 speed
Expert Prayer +4 speed
Grass Terrain +1 speed
My Phoenix speed went from 21 to 37 an increase of 16 in speed.
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angelito
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
proud father of a princess
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posted April 09, 2006 01:23 PM |
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So no1 has an idea how to show us an increment higher than +21?
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supersonic
Famous Hero
being digested. E=mc^2, s=vt
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posted April 09, 2006 03:05 PM |
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Ok, how about cloning hasted phoenix? You will have 27 speed x2 = 54.
I know, Quicksand! When a creature enters the quicksand, It automatically stops. So next turn its speed increases by its normal amount!
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pacifist
Famous Hero
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posted April 10, 2006 02:15 PM |
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Well if you count the increase during a round and not an action you can have +22.
The opponent must have higher speed than you with 2 stacks of 1 phoenix for example and the 4 speed artifacts + expert slow or the armor of the damned. During the turn of the second phoenix you can see that the speed of your own phoenixes is 12 (on grass). It doesn't matter if it's Brissa or Sir Mullich since the speed must be lower than 26 anyway.
Then at your turn the angellic alliance gives +2 speed (14) and you cast expert haste and speed goes to 34. So speed in that round goes from 12 to 34 (+ 22).
Is that allowed?
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angelito
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
proud father of a princess
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posted April 10, 2006 03:45 PM |
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It is allowed....but itīs not the maximum...
And yes, the speed increase has to be in ONE round.
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Nebuka
Promising
Supreme Hero
Save me Jebus!
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posted April 10, 2006 03:59 PM |
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Heh, slow specialist would help a bit I guess. But I think there's no such heroes.
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angelito
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
proud father of a princess
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posted April 10, 2006 04:04 PM |
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The opponent must have higher speed than you with 2 stacks of 1 phoenix for example and the 4 speed artifacts + expert slow or the armor of the damned......
Ok...i will give one more hint:
Opponent has NOTHING but 1 peasant in his army.
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pacifist
Famous Hero
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posted April 10, 2006 04:10 PM |
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Ok replace the angellic alliance with the normal prayer spell so the base speed is 27. Sir Mullich is in a town.
Opponent has expert earth and basic ballistics cast expert slow, you cast expert prayer with Mullich (speed 15 from 13) then next round expert haste gives speed 36 (increase is +23)
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LegendMaker
Promising
Famous Hero
The Metal Specialist
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posted April 10, 2006 04:33 PM |
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Just a Note
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...cast expert slow, you cast expert prayer with Mullich (speed 15 from 13) then next round expert haste gives speed 36 (increase is +23)
Pardon me to interfere but, if I didn't forget all I learnt about maths at school (wasn't exactly yesterday lmao) 36 - 15 = 21 !
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pacifist
Famous Hero
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posted April 10, 2006 04:54 PM |
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Oups, I forgot why I always put the angellic alliance I lose a speed artifact that way. I thought speed was still 13 at the beginning of the next round. the idea of ballistic was good but it doesn't change anything 
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LegendMaker
Promising
Famous Hero
The Metal Specialist
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posted April 10, 2006 06:05 PM |
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I wanna know
Legend : Magic Plains with Master Genies and Loynis ?
Angel : Nope !
Legend : A peasant with Brissa ?
Angel : Nope !
Legend : If I promise not to tell anyone, will you tell me ?
Angel : Nope !
Lmao. I really wanna know !
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maretti
Responsible
Supreme Hero
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posted April 10, 2006 06:38 PM |
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A dead unit has speed 0. When ressurected it can get speed 28. Thats an increase of 28.
I know thats not what you are looking for, so lets get the answer and get on with this weeks questions.
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angelito
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
proud father of a princess
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posted April 10, 2006 07:15 PM |
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Hehe...ok ok.
You (maretti) were closer than u think i guess. After i posted my "prayer/slow" thing in the "Not in the manual" thread, i thought someone would get the answer.
OK...here it goes:
We need everything happen in 1 round, so we need to be slowed first. To get slowed first, opponent has to have first turn. But Mullich is needed for us, so one solution would be, we attack a hero who has artillery skill in his town. Even if he has only 1 peasant, he starts first.
Mullich (+2), with 2(!!) speed arties (cape and ring, necklace is reserved by necklace of bliss)) (+3) on grass (+1) with phoenixes (21) and Angelic Alliance.
So Phoenixes will have speed 27.
Now defending hero casts mass slow, and the phoenixes will have speed 13. On Mullichs turn, Angelic Alliance casts prayer, phoenix have speed 15.
Then Mullich casts haste, and phoenixes have speed 36. So speed increase is +23 (from 13 to 36).
If prayer would be casted first, slow afterwards, and finaly haste, they would just increase from 15 to 36. The +2 more speed from prayer, which will also be added after slow is "dispelled by haste" are the tricky thing.
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Russ
Promising
Supreme Hero
blah, blah, blah
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posted April 10, 2006 07:31 PM |
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Won't it be 37? 27 base speed, +4 from prayer and +6 from haste?
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angelito
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
proud father of a princess
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posted April 10, 2006 07:32 PM |
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Haste is +5
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maretti
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Supreme Hero
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posted April 10, 2006 09:01 PM |
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I would call that 2 events. First prayer then haste. You could get the same effect from a mastergenie in 1 round.
I guess the ultimate speedincrease is a dead phoenix on grass with Mulich and the 3 speed arts, resurrected, then prayer and haste from mastergenies in one round, 38 in all.
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LegendMaker
Promising
Famous Hero
The Metal Specialist
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posted April 10, 2006 09:49 PM |
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Now I Know !
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I would call that 2 events. First prayer then haste.
Me too. Actually there was some incidental misleading factor to this quest, I think.
First I thought it was the maximum overall bonus one could give to any creature's base speed.
Then, when Angel explained he was talking about the increase, not the bonus, a second confusion happened : while he was thinking "in one round" I was thinking "in one action".
Now I understand what he truly asked for in the first place... But only thanks to his answer ! Lmao
Anyways, good thing I noticed this Weekly Library Questions thing, I think it's a pretty cool and entertaining concept.
Hopefully I'll be more focused for the next one ! 
Legend. 
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angelito
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
proud father of a princess
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posted April 10, 2006 09:52 PM |
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As stated, i said 1 round, not 1 event.
And mastergenie would just be pure luck, coz u donīt know when they will cast prayer (and / or haste)..lol
Dead unit donīt count foo..
(Even dead units have their "normal" speed, they just canīt use it, same like the blinded units..)
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angelito
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
proud father of a princess
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posted April 10, 2006 09:58 PM |
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But anyhow, thanks to all the participators, you have been awesome..
Hope i can find some new quetions for the next thread....
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