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Vlaad
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posted January 18, 2008 05:33 PM |
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@ guarderQuote:
Do you mean this hangvul
Yeah, I can't find the location of that one (the first one you posted is the default one, as far as I remember).
@ magnomagus
Thanks, but I've already done most of it in the editor.
You got it right: I have a custom set of jpg portraits (a bit cartoony, but I think they fit H5)... Perhaps I'll use those (thanks for the links  ).
@ baklava
By "portraits" you meant the Hangvul above or something else?
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posted January 18, 2008 05:36 PM |
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@ guarderQuote:
I can try to make some maps, but i'm not good in adding scripts.
I think the Fellowhip map would be the most demanding one... Team-up with somebody who can script maybe?
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posted January 18, 2008 05:37 PM |
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What about the teams?
There are Gondor, Rohan, Mordor, Isengard, Elves and Dwarves.
Should I make them all playable in singleplayer? If not, keep in mind nobody really wants the AI as an ally. 
Or make the Free Peoples one faction? Wouldn't four starting towns and a bunch of heroes be too much?
What are the usual settings for a friendly LAN or hotseat game nowadays? Does anyone still play 2vs2vs2 or 3vs3?
Elvin...?
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baklava
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posted January 18, 2008 05:42 PM |
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Edited by baklava at 17:51, 18 Jan 2008.
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@ baklava
By "portraits" you meant the Hangvul above or something else?
I meant hero portraits which I extracted from LotR movie, and put in 128x128 TGA format... since I thought that would be the most appealing to the public. It's possible to implement them, right?
But I didn't see your portraits, perhaps they'd fit better...
PS It would rock if we'd make a texture mod which would change Paladins and such into Rohirrim...
Or, if we really want to screw around, we can make one Haven upgrades Gondor, and the second Rohan... Like someone proposed we do for Orcs.
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Elvin
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posted January 18, 2008 05:46 PM |
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It's mostly 1v1, not many maps for allied and it would mess a bit with reporting I would not mind commanding 4 towns from the beginning as long as I don't have to build them from scratch and creep with each hero But I expect most should be fully built(with exceptions of course) and the heroes of some level anyway. You could try 'the school(Melizod)' approach and make it so you can finish the campaign with either player but being an epic campaign I'd rather command them all.
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Vlaad
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posted January 18, 2008 06:02 PM |
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Edited by Vlaad at 18:05, 18 Jan 2008.
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I meant hero portraits which I extracted from LotR movie, and put in 128x128 TGA format... since I thought that would be the most appealing to the public. It's possible to implement them, right?
Whoa, that sounds cool. Check your HCM for my mail. 
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But I didn't see your portraits, perhaps they'd fit better...
I planned something more cartoony, like these:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/vlaadisha/LOTR_characters_by_themico.jpg
Let me know what you think, OK?
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PS It would rock if we'd make a texture mod which would change Paladins and such into Rohirrim...
A good idea... There aren't many textures that need recoloring (Footman's shield, Cavalier, Orcs perhaps...).
However, if we decide to re-create Middle-earth, what about all the creatures that do not fit Tolkien's world...?
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Or, if we really want to screw around, we can make the one Haven upgrades Gondor, and the second Rohan... Like someone proposed we do for Orcs.
Sounds good.  Would it still be possible to change the upgrades in a Hill Fort, for example? Or would it be impossible once you've modified it...?
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Vlaad
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posted January 18, 2008 06:10 PM |
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It's mostly 1v1,
I understand that and will make a separate 1vs1 version (if anyone is crazy enough to play an impossible map in multi ) as well as a separate singleplayer version. This isn't too much work anyway - mostly changing the player properties. Quote:
it would mess a bit with reporting
Oh, this isn't a map for ToH. They have very strict criteria and my scenario wouldn't meet any of their standards.
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baklava
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posted January 18, 2008 06:17 PM |
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I planned something more cartoony, like these:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/vlaadisha/LOTR_characters_by_themico.jpg
Let me know what you think, OK?
A bit too cartoony for my taste
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However, if we decide to re-create Middle-earth, what about all the creatures that do not fit Tolkien's world...?
Well, that's their problem
I don't know, we'll think something up. We can change some of their models, and replace them with something fitting (for example Centaurs with Haradrim)...
But, though I know a few modding basics, we're probably going to need someone better for that...
Maybe someone who can think up a way of replacing the cyclops with the dwarven hero model and naming it Mumakil... Just a thought.
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Would it still be possible to change the upgrades in a Hill Fort, for example?
I don't know. Why wouldn't it?
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Elvin
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posted January 18, 2008 06:18 PM |
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Did not mean your map, you asked the usual settings and I mostly play toh where multiple players are scarce 
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Vlaad
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posted January 18, 2008 06:28 PM |
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Edited by Vlaad at 07:50, 20 Jan 2008.
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A bit too cartoony for my taste
OK, I'm waiting for your set then. Quote:
Maybe someone who can think up a way of replacing the cyclops with the dwarven hero model and naming it Mumakil... Just a thought.
I'd like to keep the Cyclops (too cool) but rename it to Troll maybe.
Your idea for Mumakil is an excellent one though... Perhaps replace the Snow Ape? I could give several Mumakils to an Easterling hero, and make the unit very powerful but rare...?Quote:
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Would it still be possible to change the upgrades in a Hill Fort, for example?
I don't know. Why wouldn't it?
Um, it's obvious I have no idea what I'm talking about. Magnomagus to the rescue...? 
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posted January 18, 2008 08:02 PM |
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If creatures are determined in their .xdb to be upgrades from each other, the system will also work in the hill fort.
Now about the mumakills: I know it is possible to use hero models as creatures because I have a seen people doing it and also swapping or removing the riders on them. For example take a look at this screenshot 5th post:
http://heroescommunity.com/viewthread.php3?TID=24698&pagenumber=7
So you can make a haradrim mumakil by using the dwarf hero model and changing the rider to gotai or kujin. But I won't say it is easy, and I don't know how, because I'm only experienced in modifying heroes, gamemechanics, icons and that sort of stuff.
I think if you seriously consider to create a mod for your map that does several changes to skins and creatures you should post a request in the modders workshop. There are a lot of people there interested in doing this kind of work and I think when you tell them you have a 320x320 map from middle-earth ready they become even more interested.
Oh and before I forget, I would not swap the cyclops, because then you lose the troll-look-a-likes right?
[EDIT] I forgot to give you a link to this excellent creature modding tutorial:
http://www.heroesofmightandmagic.com/heroes5/modding_wiki/modding_tutorials:texture_modding
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baklava
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posted January 19, 2008 12:38 AM |
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@Vlaad
Right, I sent you a few portraits just so that you see what I was talking about.
But if we put Cyclopses (with modified skin, to resemble trolls) instead of wyverns... And put Mumakils as the level 7...?
Is it possible to put riders on wyverns? Cause then we'd have some pretty neat nazguls...
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magnomagus
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posted January 19, 2008 12:55 AM |
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Is it possible to put riders on wyverns? Cause then we'd have some pretty neat nazguls...
The possibilities always need to be researched by the modder. I have seen a dark knight riding a ghost dragon on a russian forum and there was also someone who managed irina to ride a griffin. But you have to take in mind every new unit needs proper animations. For the mumakils for example there are probably no attack animations, so it must use an animation from another creature, but if that works I don't know?
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Vlaad
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posted January 19, 2008 01:58 AM |
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Edited by Vlaad at 07:51, 20 Jan 2008.
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@Vlaad
Right, I sent you a few portraits just so that you see what I was talking about.
I haven't received anything, unless you are "chubby_love" whose "big_beautiful_women" message ended up in my bulk folder...  But I don't dare to open that attachment. Could you re-send the portraits? Quote:
But if we put Cyclopses (with modified skin, to resemble trolls) instead of wyverns... And put Mumakils as the level 7...?
I love Wyverns, but like your roster too (no flyers though). If the Nazgul idea can be implemented, why not?
What about Centaurs...? Introduce Wolves (nerfed and renamed to Wargs) as tier 2?
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posted January 19, 2008 02:23 AM |
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Would it be posible to have the Necromancer riding the Pao Kai? As a Nazgul?
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baklava
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posted January 19, 2008 12:19 PM |
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Edited by baklava at 12:22, 19 Jan 2008.
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What about Centaurs...? Introduce Wolves (nerfed and renamed to Wargs) as tier 2?
Or, if we're really feeling moddy, we can put some riders on them too... Wouldn't that kick ass?
I don't know a person who wouldn't play our mod...
@Vlaad
I sent the email again, hopefully the mailman doesn't get drunk this time
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posted January 19, 2008 07:03 PM |
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Edited by Vlaad at 19:06, 19 Jan 2008.
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Or, if we're really feeling moddy, we can put some riders on them too... Wouldn't that kick ass?
*drools*Quote:
I sent the email again, hopefully the mailman doesn't get drunk this time
Still nothing. Perhaps you're typing the address wrong? Anyway, that could wait for the mod. I'd like to publish the map first, then find the team to create a small mod.
Still no idea where Hangvul's other portrait is located though. 
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posted January 19, 2008 08:33 PM |
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baklava
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posted January 19, 2008 09:46 PM |
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Still nothing. Perhaps you're typing the address wrong?
 I'm typing the exact address you sent me... Perhaps it's in the junk folder, or automatically deleted, cause it has a .rar file attached to it... :\
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Vlaad
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posted January 19, 2008 11:14 PM |
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@ guarder: I meant in the editor.
@ baklava: Dunno. Could you send me one pic, just to get the idea? Thanks.
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