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Dragon_Slayer
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posted April 10, 2006 03:36 PM bonus applied.

Defaul Reactions Will Improve Your Love Life!

One concept that I really think is valuable to get a handle on is "Always have a default thing to do in every common situation." It's amazing to me when I watch a guy interacting with a woman, everything is going well... then it's time for him to step up and make something happen…

...and he just doesn’t do it!!!
Ohhhhhhhh I hate it when that happens.

I am sure you have never had this happen. Neither have I….. of course.

I was out yesterday at the phone store getting a new phone, (because a certain company who's name starts with "O" has the worst customer service on the planet)... and I witnessed a painful display of a no hope male at his best.

A tall, blonde model-type girl was waiting to get herself a new phone, and Mr. Smooth started a conversation with her. The conversation was going along well, and they were both smiling and laughing about phones and such. Finally, Ms. Model walked up to the counter and got her new phone, then said "good bye" to Mr. Wuss-Of-All-Time, who proceeded to smile dorkily at her and wave as she walked out of his life forever.

He just watched her walk all the way to the other end of the store, out the door, and out of sight. You've probably seen the "I'm SUCH a loser" look.

Well, he had it…

It was going so well for him; he should have just asked for a number of something He had that look in his eye of "Damn. I really should have just asked her for her number."
Twenty bucks says that he thought about that girl all day long, and imagined 47 different great things that he should have said in the moment… but didn't.

The only reason I am so sure of this is that I used to do the exact same thing myself. Now, I know that many guys go through scenarios like this every day, but never get any positive results because the don’t act in the moment. For some strange reason, many guys feel compelled to come up with some unique  and original way to handle every situation. When it comes time to think something up, they don’t know what to say.

So what's the answer?

The answer is to have one default saying for every situation.

One way to start conversations with women.
One way to ask for emails and/or phone numbers.
One way to take things to a physical level.
One place to go out with a woman...
...etc., etc., etc....

I can hear it now…

"But DS, it sounds kind of corny to ask every woman
for her number the same way..."


I get it. I used to feel the same way.

However, here is the deal. If you will just take the time to learn and prepare one simple way to handle each of the most common situations, you'll be a hundred times more successful than if you try to "figure out something unique and original on the spot" every time.

Once you get a default way to handle each common situation, and you start experiencing success on a regular basis with women, you will gain the ability to create better ideas on the spot.

Steps:
1) Choose the one situation that happens most often, the one that you would like to have an exact default sequence of words and behaviours to use.

2) Close your eyes, and mentally run through the last five or ten situations like this that you were in.

3) Brainstorm 10 or 20 great ways that you could handle this particular situation in the future.

4) Choose the one single best idea on the list, and refine it down to an exact sentence.

5) Close your eyes again and mentally rehearse it. See yourself doing it. Move around and play it out... if you need to stand up, do it. Actually, imagine that a woman is in the room with you, and pretend that you are getting her number, kissing her, or whatever.

6) If your mom comes into your room, a quick transition into "Macbeth" and a claim that you were improvising on
Shakespeare should work!

Women want you to make the first move, but if you don't, then they won't either.

A woman will think to herself...
"He seems nice, funny, interesting. I wish he would ask me for my number... Oh, he is nervous... how cute. Well, if he can’t get up the nerve to ask me for my number, im just gonna leave.

This is so true in almost all situations. So take my advice and experience success!

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FriendOfGunnar
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posted April 10, 2006 06:51 PM

Well what do you know? Dragonslaya's a playa!
Does your girlfriend know about this?
I guess she will sooner or later.

Women like to think they know men but the truth is that they always fall for the guys with the practiced skilz. (Meanwhile they overlook that nice guy who gets on the bus the same time as them every morning. It all balances out years later though...Karma is all-powerfull)  

D.S. I'm just jealous you found this out so many years before me.

Lesson to the boys: study, learn, practice...

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supersonic
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posted April 10, 2006 08:05 PM

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Lesson to the boys: study, learn, practice...


Something like:
Hide, listen, watch, learn. And when the time is right, strike from the shadow.

Well, I don't like any defaults. I don't think that by reacting the same all the time can make miracles. After all, we become easily predictable and monotonous for woman. And then, one day, it may be that women already know what we are going to say and so they will not be interested.
I prefer being spontaneous.
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pol
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posted April 10, 2006 08:25 PM

Something like:
Hide, listen, watch, learn. And when the time is right, strike her from the shadow.

Now seriously
Default reactions have some advantages but they usually leads to get the default's people. Something for what I don't wish.

A woman will think to herself...
"He seems nice, funny, interesting. I wish he would ask me for my number... Oh, he is nervous... how cute. Well, if he can’t get up the nerve to ask me for my number, im just gonna leave.
* I'm not looking nerve when I'm. Which seems like I already use chameleon principle.
* You summarized it a little much here is more thoughts in her heads during that "act". More of them may play for you (as for you, humans aren't so different in fact you could be surprised)

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Russ
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posted April 10, 2006 08:27 PM

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Well, I don't like any defaults. I don't think that by reacting the same all the time can make miracles. After all, we become easily predictable for woman.
You'd be surprised, but I've noticed that girls like a certain degree of predictability. It is one of those things that (how should I put it?) brings you closer together?
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I prefer being spontaneous.
Me too, but it has proven to be very inefficient Unfortunately, well-practised lines & actions impress the ladies more than being yourself and acting spontaneous And once you've got the lady with your well-practiced behavior, no matter how boring and bad you are, most of them will stick around.

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kookastar
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posted April 10, 2006 09:53 PM
Edited by kookastar on 10 Apr 2006

LMAO DS  Thanks I needed that!

I think your post is good because it may help build the confidence of guys to talk to gals.  But IMHO we really can usually tell when we are being fed a line - it doesn't mean we always don't like it though.

You will get one of two reactions - positive or negative.  See we know it's a line, but if we are interested in you we don't mind - may even enjoy it, it we're not then it is an "OMG he used that line" moment.
Either way the result is quite often the same if you used the rehearsed line or another - at least you have let the girl know how you feel.

BTW Don't use this one:  "Did it Hurt?"  What the..  "When you fell from the sky you beautiful angel" - doomed to fail even if she's interested

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Russ
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posted April 10, 2006 11:00 PM

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But IMHO we really can usually tell when we are being fed a line - it doesn't mean we always don't like it though.
Or can you? I mean: I've never tried that approach, but IMHO if I think it through and then rehearse it really well, wouldn't girls think "wow! that guy has so much confidence and he is so original!" (yes - original, lol - it isn't like I'll have to apply the routine to the same girl twice.)
Of course, making up something silly on the run can work too, but it doesn't seem to have the same effect as the above.
Btw, how can you be sure that what you THINK is a "line" is actually a line? It may very well be the opposite

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kookastar
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posted April 10, 2006 11:29 PM
Edited by kookastar on 10 Apr 2006

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Or can you? I mean: I've never tried that approach, but IMHO if I think it through and then rehearse it really well, wouldn't girls think "wow! that guy has so much confidence and he is so original!"


Yeah, or we might think, "wow he's really creative, that 'line' was really original"
I think that's where the guy was going when he used the "did it hurt" line on me, I have only ever heard it once, and it was about 15 years ago.  The moment is etched in my neurons for eternity

Quote:
Btw, how can you be sure that what you THINK is a "line" is actually a line? It may very well be the opposite

I agree - like I said, we might think it is a line, but it doesn't matter if we like you we will want to find out

Edit:  I forgot to say that women use 'lines' too, and sometimes it can be hard for a girl to talk to a guy. (unless she is just going to say "wanna check out my honk honks and bumm bumm ")  So any way of building confidence in speaking to another person is a good thing.

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Miru
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posted April 11, 2006 01:21 AM

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A woman will think to herself...
"He seems nice, funny, interesting. I wish he would ask me for my number... Oh, he is nervous... how cute. Well, if he can’t get up the nerve to ask me for my number, im just gonna leave.

Can I have this confirmed, kookastar/khaelo?






Awesome pick-up lines (these always work)

Excuse me, I'm a little short on cash, would you mind if we shared a cab home together?

Hi, the voices in my head told me to come over and talk to you.

Pardon me miss, I seem to have lost my phone number, could I borrow yours?

Should I call you in the morning or nudge you?

If you were a booger I'd pick you first.

Are you accepting applications for your fan club?

Is your name Pepsi cause' I've gotta have it.

There's this movie I wanted to see and my mom said I couldn't go by myself.....

Beww BEWWW Beww (What?) That is the sound of the ambulance coming to pick me up because when I saw you my heart stopped!

Good day for weather.

I wet my pants... can I get in yours?

It's not my fault I fell in love. You are the one that tripped me.

As she's leaving....Hey aren't you forgetting something? She: What? Me!

I'm new in town. Could you give me directions to your apartment?

If I could rearrange the alphabet, I'd put U and I together.

Wouldn't we look cute on a wedding cake together?

That outfit would look great on the floor next to my bed.

Is that a mirror in your pants because I can see myself in them.

If I told you that you had a nice body, would you hold it against me?

Is it hot in here or is it just you?

I'd look good on you.

Hey that dress looks nice. Can I talk you out of it?

Do you believe in love at first sight, or should I walk by again?

Do you like sleeping? Me too! We should do it together sometime.

You are on my list of things to do tonight.




I'll add more later, I'm busy right now
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Valeriy
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posted April 11, 2006 01:38 AM

QP to the womaniser! TUM would be proud of ya!

I think having a plan leaves one more free to invent something spontaneous.

I think a lot of conventionally good looking women are quite insecure in themselves. That is why they prefer predictable men and situations that minimise the risk of them having to be spontaneous. They remind me of predictable AI, which isn't the same as multiplayer
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kookastar
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posted April 11, 2006 01:44 AM
Edited by kookastar on 10 Apr 2006

LMAO!  Great post miru
I dare any of you to give any of them a go and report back!!!

There are some gems amongst them,
For the humour, "Hey that dress looks nice. Can I talk you out of it?", or "Hi, the voices in my head told me to come over and talk to you."

I do like  "It's not my fault I fell in love. You are the one that tripped me."  

In respose to your question,

"He seems nice, funny, interesting. I wish he would ask me for my number"
I would agree - but not about the 'number' bit - maybe this has changed these days with mobiles, not sure.  I would think "I wish he would ask me out".

Please guys, go forth and try these lines, I really want to know the responses you get



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Miru
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posted April 11, 2006 02:46 AM
Edited by Miru on 10 Apr 2006

Im done, I can finish the list now.




Do you like raisens? How about a date?

Can I have my breath back?

I lost my teddy bear, will you sleep with me?

Can I take your picture? (Why?) Because I want Santa to know exactly what I want for Chirstmas.

Remember me? Oh, that’s right, I’ve met you only in my dreams.

Your body's name must be Visa, because it's everywhere I want to be.

Oh, I'm sorry, I thought that was a Braille nametag.

I can't find my puppy, can you help me find him? I think he went into this motel room.

There must be something wrong with my eyes, because I can't take them off you.

Congratulations! You've been voted "Most Beautiful Girl In This Room" and the grand prize is a night with me!

Can I come over and help you with your Math? We'll add the bed, subtract the clothes, divide the legs, and I'll multiply.

Damn, and I thought "very-fine" only came in a bottle!

Do you believe in helping the homeless? (If yes) Can you take me home with you?

Do you know the essential difference between sex and conversation? (No.) Do you wanna go upstairs and talk?

Excuse me, do you think you might possibly have a mutual friend who could introduce us?

Go up to a girl, ask her: "Do you know what winks and screws like a tiger?" She says no. Then wink.

Hi, I just wanted to give you the satisfaction of turning me down; go ahead say no.

Hi, I've been undressing you with my eyes all night long, and I think it's time to see if I'm right.

How do you like your eggs cooked? (Why?) Well I just wanted know what to make for you in the morning!

I just wanted to show this rose how incredibly beautiful you are.

I like every muscle in your body, especially mine.

If I were to ask you for sex, would your answer be the same as the answer to this question?

I'm not trying to pressure you. I don't want to have sex without mutual consent; oh and by the way, you have my consent.

Lick your finger and touch the person, touch yourself with it and say, "Let's you and me get out of these wet clothes."

Say, did we go to different schools together?

Take a screw with you and put it in your pocket. Then, when a girl comes up to you, offer her the screw and say, "Wanna screw?"

That shirt's very becoming on you. If I were on you, I'd be coming too.

What has 148 teeth and holds back the incredible hulk?  My Zipper.

What's a nice girl like you doing talking to a loser like me?

Why don't you surprise your roommate and not come home tonight?

You know how some men buy really expensive cars to make up for certain, well, shortages? Well, I don't even own a car.

You know, you might be asked to leave soon. You're making the other women look really bad.

(In a restraunt, when a hot waiter asks for your order/ what you want) You're phone # / You

I lost my virginity... can I take yours?

I'm not actually this tall. I'm sitting on my wallet.

You've been a bad girl! Go to my room!

If I received a nickel for everytime I saw someone as beautiful as you, I'd have five cents.

Am I cute, or do you need another drink?

Is that dress felt? Would you like it to be?




Theres more, but I'm done (unless a mod offers a QP for more)
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Dragon_Slayer
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posted April 11, 2006 10:09 AM

By the way when i say a default line, it doesnt have to be a predictable one. You can spend all night thinking of a unique one, then just remember it.
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Russ
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posted April 11, 2006 04:42 PM
Edited by Russ on 11 Apr 2006

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I think that's where the guy was going when he used the "did it hurt" line on me, I have only ever heard it once, and it was about 15 years ago.  The moment is etched in my neurons for eternity
Maybe he was iniitially planning to punch you and then impress you with his compassion by asking "did it hurt"?
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Please guys, go forth and try these lines, I really want to know the responses you get
I think I once tried the best line ever. The above lines are too dull and boring compared to mine. My line was a masterpiece. Anyways, it was "hey, wanna have sex?"

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FriendOfGunnar
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posted April 11, 2006 08:46 PM

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when he used the "did it hurt" line on me, I have only ever heard it once, and it was about 15 years ago.


I'm willing to bet though that this line has worked at least once somewhere.  This is like a mathematical certainty that any pickup line, no matter how stupid, will eventually find some combination of girl and alchoholic drinks that will laugh at it.  



Concerning pick-up lines, if I was still in the game here's the system I would use in places like bars or clubs.
(walk up to girl)
"How about we play a game?  I get three chances to make you laugh.  If I do, you have to give me your number…"
(if she says yes, proceed.  If she says no, then you say "Okay, how about we play another game?  I get three chances to make you cry.  If I do, you have to give me your number."  She'll probably laugh at this point in which case the ice is broken anyway)

So now you have prepared a list of jokes.  The more original and the more current the better.  And the better you are able to match the joke with the girl then the better the chance you have of eventually passing your genes on to the next generation.

Now even though she's agreed to comply with only one laugh the object is to score twice in three rounds.  That's because your next non-joke line is going to be: "Well two out three ain't bad is it?".  After which she has to say: "No, not bad at all"

So then you whip out your magic marker and have her write her number on your wrist.  After doing this then you turn and run out the door as fast as you can.  No heh heh, for what to do next I recommend watching the movie "40 year old virgin".  There's a part about half-way through the movie that's so funny I think I got baked just watching it.

Okay, now here's the hard part, getting her to pick up the phone when you call.  Remember all those unused jokes that you had.   So you say something like: "hey I never got to tell you the best one…".   Now you pick the one that's a two parter.  For example "What did the barfly say to the other barfly?".  Then you make up some type of minor emergency, like "Whoa, my cat is on fire…gotta go".  Hang up…

If she calls back then you've got her hooked, the rest is up to your personality…



Oh and one more tip to the boys:  
Men are immensely attracted by a women's physical appearance.  Women have a weakness too, it's self-confidence.  When they are around a man with a lot of self-confidence they're helpless.  They're like moths around a flame,  like cats watching a small furry rodent… like men watching a woman bend over.  Whatever you can do to increase your self-confidence will increase your odds of scoring (whatever your goal may be).  This includes but is not limited to: dressing smartly, having fresh breath, having a cool hairstyle (very important), practicing your lines, and having an interesting life with which to talk about.  

Oh and one more tip:  Dressing smartly takes work.  If you want to look sharp two years from now then you need to start learning about ties, shoes, dress shirts, etc…right now.  And you also must find a woman that will be able to give you feedback.

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Miru
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posted April 11, 2006 08:53 PM

Suddenly Khaelo and Kookastar become vital members of the community...
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Russ
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posted April 11, 2006 08:54 PM

This system sounds like something you'd talk about doing and suggest to everyone, but never do yourself.

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Lord_Woock
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posted April 11, 2006 10:40 PM

Well duh, that's how one's supposed to test theories. Nobody likes being late for their own funeral.

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kookastar
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posted June 16, 2006 11:19 PM

Feedback

I'd still really love to hear how these lines are going fellas.

Can you PLEAZ all go out there this weekend and give it a go  If I was single I would be trying them too, honest


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friendofgunnar
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posted June 16, 2006 11:53 PM

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This system sounds like something you'd talk about doing and suggest to everyone, but never do yourself.



Quote:
Well duh, that's how one's supposed to test theories. Nobody likes being late for their own funeral.



okay you don't have to believe that I would actually use this system...

you also don't have to believe that it would actually work...

I can just say though that I have used each individual part of the system successfully at least once, although I have never put the entire system into play at once...


BTW I went to Dragonslayas myspace and he's got like 60 women friends there.  Even if 95 percent of those are "spam" friends advertising porn sites that still leaves a bit of veracity to "defaul reactions will improve your love life".










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