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Heroes Community > Turban Tribunal > Thread: Who owns posts at HC? The poster or the community?
Thread: Who owns posts at HC? The poster or the community? This thread is 4 pages long: 1 2 3 4 · «PREV / NEXT»
LegendMaker
LegendMaker


Promising
Famous Hero
The Metal Specialist
posted April 13, 2006 12:44 AM
Edited by LegendMaker on 12 Apr 2006

Metaphor Contest Entries

Okay, sounds like metaphor time. I feel I've written more than my share of them (I tend to specialize in them, if you didn't notice yet ) so I will just make two short entries for the road :

* " If I can't have it, no one will ! "

Any villain in any cliché story, right after the hero countered the evil masterplan.

* " You said our love would last forever, but you cheated nonetheless. So die ! "

Any betrayed lover in any soap opera, at one point or another.

@Xarfie : " No Fun " by The Stooges is indeed a great song, dude.

But have you ever listened to " No Class " by Motörhead ?
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Binabik
Binabik


Responsible
Legendary Hero
posted April 13, 2006 01:03 AM

A dry red with a hint of metaphor; or a sweet white with a touch of parody. The efects are the same.

/Back on topic please.

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Valeriy
Valeriy

Mage of the Land
Naughty, Naughty Valeriy
posted April 13, 2006 10:14 AM

Penalty to Xarfax for insulting FOG and LM.
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Valeriy
Valeriy

Mage of the Land
Naughty, Naughty Valeriy
posted April 13, 2006 10:59 AM

LM was discussing your actions while you called him a name. COC point 1. Further repetition of already stated insults will attract another penalty.
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angelito
angelito


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posted April 13, 2006 11:17 AM

Even though the direct insults of Xarfax towards Legendmaker are definately NOT the right way to act here, i´m pretty sure, there is no need to provoke any user the way Legendmaker did.

CoC:
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6) NO provocation or aggravaion.
Provocation is unfriendly behavior that causes anger or resentment from others. Aggravation is causing, continuing or increasing irritation or trouble.....


Metaphors are ok, but i think my and the one of binabik differ quite a bit from the one of you Legend.

So everyone can state his opinion here, but please try to stay "neutral" and impersonal.
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william
william


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LummoxLewis
posted April 13, 2006 11:17 AM

You are not getting bashed by newbies.
Val makes decisions for the good of HC, and sometimes you can make some rather nasty posts. Other times you make brilliant posts, that are extremely informative.
LegendMaker is not picking on you, and he may be a noob, but he if you don't like him or something, there is then no need for you to call him a LegendaryIdiot, because of the posts that I have seen from him, he really hasn't teased you at all.
Sure you may have had your little fight sometime, I don't know, but there is no need to make a post telling him that he is a LegendaryIdiot.
No need at all.

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tigris
tigris


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Supreme Noobolator
posted April 13, 2006 11:42 AM

Thing is, you newbies are too very much concearned by aparences. Im sure in your minds you think veeery good things about someone bashing you.Especially beacuse you donnot understand why. This is because you lack the skill gamewise.
Ur anger and desire to say what you think is only surpassed by your fear of getting a -QP.Cos you worship those lil stars don't u?
So you play dum and make subtile provokations just enough to stay below the line of danger and just enough to annoy the snow out of the other guy. He is a seasoned vet around here and he earned his Qp's working hard so he feels insulted by you mocking him.
He explodes in a direct way, speaking his mind and thus breaking the CoC.
This automatically turns the table. Sudently u became the fragile victime and he is the noob basher. Hold into account that until this point he was the respected vet and you were the annoying ignorant noob.Sudently the role change.Sudently Ur under the protection of a mod or Val himself and u laugh there in front of your keyboard about how that foo is getting his penalties, while you are satisfied to play along that subtile provokation game.
Then the other guy realises that there is no point in arguing no more and his first intention is to pack his bags and leave this unfair place for good.
But after a while of peeking as a visitator he realises that he is too damned addited and decides to give it one more chance, as those pesky noobs settled down a bit with their spamming.
So things get back to normal!
until the next noob arrives
am i right Xar?
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Valeriy
Valeriy

Mage of the Land
Naughty, Naughty Valeriy
posted April 13, 2006 02:43 PM

William, more people jumping into the conflict will only make things worse so it's best that you do not get involved in this issue.

Aculias, bringing up past conflicts and acusing people who are not here is total provocation. I'm deleting your post and warning you. Stick with the issue at hand please if you want to contribute.

Xarfax, you've said your goodbyes and undone the good things you've done here. Time to leave. What else do you want?
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Aculias
Aculias


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Pretty Boy Angel Sacraficer
posted April 13, 2006 02:46 PM

I did & ok I will delete the past issues.
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Aculias
Aculias


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Undefeatable Hero
Pretty Boy Angel Sacraficer
posted April 13, 2006 02:50 PM

Oh too late you already did & I even replied in this thread & added more.
They already know how I feel.
I have a feeling I am the next one to get banned cause I am tired of replying to a thread & having it accussed of not keeping on target.
BS I was on target & I just mentioned reasonings which they know about how i feel & you still do this everytime Val.
Tired of getting the special treatment.
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Valeriy
Valeriy

Mage of the Land
Naughty, Naughty Valeriy
posted April 13, 2006 02:59 PM

Have some respect people. For HC and other members.

This is a forum on the internet. Some of you only come here to display your ego and short temper. Are your lives that poor? If this place sucks so much, could you return to other good things in your life instead?
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Aculias
Aculias


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Undefeatable Hero
Pretty Boy Angel Sacraficer
posted April 13, 2006 03:03 PM

You know better then that come on Val but lets delete all these go to other thread so we wont spam here ok.
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Consis
Consis


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Legendary Hero
Of Ruby
posted April 13, 2006 03:19 PM

Xarfax111,

I beg you to stay. I follow Valeriy's rules because it's his message board. It is a good message board when compared to others. I want you to please stay. I am begging you because I enjoy your posts. You don't need to immediately leave. Perhaps if you took a few months off from Heroes Community and then came back feeling better? HoMM5 will be here soon. There will be a new ToH tournament and many new people will come here to post their matches and what happened. Please stay.
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LegendMaker
LegendMaker


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Famous Hero
The Metal Specialist
posted April 13, 2006 04:01 PM
Edited by LegendMaker on 13 Apr 2006

What was this thread about, again ?

This thread was supposed to be a debate on the question of who owns posts (with the burning questions of "has a poster the right to delete  any post of his" and "has the admin the right to restore a post deleted by its author" underlined).

According to Consis, this thread was really about Xarfax's recent purge of his posts. Hm, given Consis' latest post, not even that : for him, it seems to be mainly about Xarfax's retirement.

Well, if it's the case, if this here thread is really a mere clone of Xarfax's goodbye thread... Please excuse me, along with Loknar, Val and others to have spammed this rather private subject with our public debate about this community !

I see both your points, Angel and Tig. These are indeed valid if the main subject is the Penalty and Awards system and the CoC. But I already had my say in this debate, don't you remember ?

If I was the admin of this forum, I'd use a different system. But I'm not. Val is. And since I've decided to stay anyways, I obviously decided that the good parts of this forum much outweigh what I consider to be flaws in the penalty system ! I thought it was also your opinion on this ?

@Xarfax : If you want to make up things in a way that make you look like a heroic rebel fighting the faulty system, that's probably the way to go. But I for one won't fall into that trap.

Since you decided to leave this community anyway, what getting penalties can mean to you, now ? Maybe you even seek them. If you managed to end up banned, maybe it would be easier for you to later pretend you didn't have a choice.

Now if you want to have an uncensored conversation with me, a moderated forum isn't the right place to do so. Come to MSN, for instance (HCM me for my handle). There we could call each other all the names we might want to.

This community has indeed had more than its share of flame wars lately. So let's not polute this serious debate with our original arguement on the NITM project any longer.

Not that it would change the fact that fire immunity works against the Sultans' Fire Shield, anyway !

Legendarily refusing to be your excuse.
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RedSoxFan3
RedSoxFan3


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posted April 13, 2006 05:13 PM
Edited by RedSoxFan3 on 13 Apr 2006

All I can say is that I think an author has the legal right to do whatever he wants to his posts. If he wants to delete them, then so be it, we'll just take away the QP he earned for it.

I can see the frustration that the Vets might have. Tigris makes a pretty good point. I haven't gone into the Library for a very long time, maybe a year. All the discussions have pretty much been covered for me and I don't play Homm3 anymore.

However from my experiences from playing World of Warcraft, it is extremely annoying when a new player argues with me over strategy that has been accepted by anyone who knows what they are doing.

And it's not that I'm being close-minded. It's that they are. This doesn't feel like discussion to me. It feels like convincing.

So I can understand why Xarfax wouldn't want to post here anymore. However I think deleting your posts could be the lamest thing anyone can do. I think it's your right to do it, but I don't think I could ever respect you again for doing it. If you came back here and began to post again, it would be a long time, before I even bothered to read your posts, other than to do my job as Mod of course.

Also on a side note, LegendMaker your posts have to be the most obnoxious things ever. The BB Code, the way you keep trying to spice up your posts with random jokes. You just digress and take all focus away from your point. Stop trying to look so cool and just say things straight forward.
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LegendMaker
LegendMaker


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Famous Hero
The Metal Specialist
posted April 13, 2006 07:17 PM
Edited by LegendMaker on 13 Apr 2006

ON and OFF of topic(s)

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Also on a side note, LegendMaker your posts have to be the most obnoxious things ever. The BB Code, the way you keep trying to spice up your posts with random jokes. You just digress and take all focus away from your point. Stop trying to look so cool and just say things straight forward.
Thanks for sharing your opinion, though I certainly didn't ask for it. How about you stop judging me and telling me how to be myself, RSF ?

Seems completely offtopic, either way : it's neither relevant to the posts ownership debate nor to the unofficial topic of Xarfax's retirement.

I dunno, if you really want to discuss my style and personnality, make a new thread of your own and call it "LegendMaker's Trial" or something, RSF ! Be sure I'll debate on my posts with you then if need be !

Anyways, I've had my say on the two topics at hand here, so keep whatever further discussions you might want to have, folks, but please count me out of it from now on !

Legendary over, here.
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Aculias
Aculias


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Undefeatable Hero
Pretty Boy Angel Sacraficer
posted April 13, 2006 10:11 PM

Legend what is your obseesion with getting at Xarfax for?
I agree with Fax.
We all should have our right to edit whatever we want since this is a sharing sight.
What comes here stays here as long as we dont bring this site to other sites as a rule.
Since it's in this site then we should have the right to change it.
Most businesses or placs you need permission from the boss hehe.

In other hand I been here for so long too.
I would hate for people to rewrite what they wrote because it's like changing who they were & history.
Like I said it should be our choice but I would think whoever rewrites who they were or what they wrote yrs ago is just a fake.
Dont like who they were so they try to erase it for others to see.
I would love to erase some of my stuff in past but I would be lying to myself.

Get off it Legend



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RedSoxFan3
RedSoxFan3


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Fan of Red Sox
posted April 13, 2006 10:18 PM

I think what this boils down to is that both sides don't really want to resolve their issues. It looks at this point that neither side is taking the high ground. Both seem satisfied to get in their shots and claim victory afterwards.

This thread is seriously going nowhere.

Again I have to say that I think it's the choice of the member to delete posts, but they will have to pay the consequences of losing bonuses and losing the respect of the community.
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Aculias
Aculias


Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
Pretty Boy Angel Sacraficer
posted April 13, 2006 10:39 PM

What are you talking about Loknar, if Xars posts is a lost then yours is just wambuzzled lol.
Xar brought as much to this community in the short time as Stiven did in the library in his rare good days.He decided to help others get better & to share his experience in the game as well as other experiences but he also.
Xar & i been rivals for a long time on here but I hate to see someone who tries to help players get better & share to only get bashed by jealous semi players who cant even build Angels or cavaliers in week 2 lol.
Thats why hes been doing it, to help players get better.
If theres a dif reason I dont think it will be any worst.

Val I think you need to check some of the other people on here.
In tghe history of HC Mods tend to look in one direction & blame them because of thier open minded history.
Personally yea this thread is basically made because Xarfax decided to leave & he contributed in the Library tremendously but I seen alot of bashing from a certain someone & it's in the COC but it stirs up the problem just like with Gunnars issue.

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angelito
angelito


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Undefeatable Hero
proud father of a princess
posted April 13, 2006 10:55 PM

Ok...here it will stop now.
If anyone wants to tell us something about Xars behaviour...Legendmakers style and similar things, then please go ahead in this thread.
Every post which doesn´t refer directly to the topic will be deleted as soon as i recognize it.

Thx for listening!
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