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Heroes Community > Heroes 5 - Temple of Ashan > Thread: Neutral Creatures..
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Danger
Danger

Tavern Dweller
posted April 13, 2006 11:58 AM

Neutral Creatures..

I dont`t hear anything about Neutral Creatures....
Why they forget this ?
The game HMM5 needs Neutral Creatures .... min 20 new creatures ....
Neutral Creatures
Neutral Creatures...
New ideas.. pls ....

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Hrushov17
Hrushov17


Adventuring Hero
posted April 13, 2006 10:19 PM

as far as I know they already have phoenix as a netural creature and the 4 elements and prob centaures ...I think they prob have more now

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Lich_King
Lich_King


Honorable
Supreme Hero
posted April 13, 2006 10:23 PM

At this state there will be 6 Neutral creature:

Level 5 4 Classical Elementals
Level 6 Death Knight
Level 7 Phoenix
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Hrushov17
Hrushov17


Adventuring Hero
posted April 13, 2006 10:24 PM

oh yeah I forgat abt the death knight oops ....but wait so no centaures??

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Lich_King
Lich_King


Honorable
Supreme Hero
posted April 13, 2006 10:31 PM

Nope, at this time Centaurs, Dwarves, Halflings, most barb units, Nagas and etc will wait till Expansion...
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Hrushov17
Hrushov17


Adventuring Hero
posted April 13, 2006 10:32 PM

alright thnx for the info

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crepus
crepus


Adventuring Hero
Nuclear Power Plant
posted April 14, 2006 10:46 AM

Info on the neutrals?

Something I would really like would be info on all existing neutral/summonable creatures in the same way that the different faction creatures have been displayed. I can't find it anywhere. We wants zhe pics, stats and special abilities displayed for our reading pleasure!

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sfidanza
sfidanza


Promising
Supreme Hero
posted April 15, 2006 09:44 PM
Edited by sfidanza on 15 Apr 2006

crepus, you're right!
And since you deserve it, ThE_HyDrA did it for you (pictures are from Labyrinth):
http://www.heroesofmightandmagic.com/heroes5/neutral_creatures.shtml

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Nebuka
Nebuka


Promising
Supreme Hero
Save me Jebus!
posted April 15, 2006 10:01 PM

Hope this is a typo:

Deadly Strike: There's a 25% chance this creature kills half of the units in the targeted enemy stack.

Prolly 25% for double damage.
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Lich_King
Lich_King


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Supreme Hero
posted April 15, 2006 10:19 PM

No, it's not doubule strike, they made Genies from Homm2 to return Now you have to think twice before attacking them...
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Nebuka
Nebuka


Promising
Supreme Hero
Save me Jebus!
posted April 15, 2006 10:26 PM

Not double strike, just double damage. And don't know about H2 genies...

But as it stands now...1 death knight has a 25% chance to kill 5000 Archangels in one strike? That is, if he faces 10000 of them.

Some more rewording, or explanation is needed, as it doesn't make sense as it's written now.
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Lich_King
Lich_King


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Supreme Hero
posted April 15, 2006 10:32 PM
Edited by Lich_King on 15 Apr 2006

Heroes 1 and 2 Genies could halve the whole stack with single attack.

You see without proper testing I can not know how that ability works, I can only ask someone who tested it, The description is taken from the latest demo version, and it looks he can kill 50 percent of stack in a single blow, and I believe even 1 Death Knight can do that... (Terrible, isn't it ?). I will ask someone for more percise answers...
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Fofa
Fofa


Famous Hero
Famous? Me?!
posted April 15, 2006 11:13 PM

Wow, that's one expensive Phoenix! And they were my favourite level sevens in HoMM 3 and level six in HoMM 2. . . At least they and the Fire Elementals have Fire Shields now. I just wish the Phoenix's would look more like birds.

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sfidanza
sfidanza


Promising
Supreme Hero
posted April 16, 2006 03:43 AM

Nebuka, that sentence is pretty clear:
Deadly Strike: There's a 25% chance this creature kills half of the units in the targeted enemy stack.
It means the death knight can (25%) kill many units in one blow. Where did you get the idea of anything 'double' (damage...)?
What rewording would you need?

The description is also clear:
Death Knights are able to slay numerous enemies with a single strike.

In the open beta, this description was even more straighforward:
Death Knights are able to slay a half of enemy creatures with a single strike.

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Nebuka
Nebuka


Promising
Supreme Hero
Save me Jebus!
posted April 16, 2006 04:06 AM

I hoped it wasn't clear. Hoped it was a typo.

But as it isn't...it's just incredibly stupid thing Nival put in. Feel there just has to be more to it. Those death knights are Azure Dragons times 100 as it stands now.

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I_HaT3_CT
I_HaT3_CT


Adventuring Hero
XJapan Fan (Rusty Nails)
posted April 16, 2006 12:15 PM

Not really that imba i guess. I played homm2 and there is nth really that powerful the genies can do. Since they are neutrals it is hard to get them and the often come in small number.

However i hope that some1 will test out whether with the increasing amount of death knight will have more % to half the number of units.

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Meph
Meph


Adventuring Hero
Rampaging Rampart
posted April 16, 2006 01:18 PM

In multiplayer, I'm afraid that if a hero gets ahold of the Death Knights, their enemies are as good as finished. It really is too powerful as it stands now. 25% is too much chance.

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LordRiton
LordRiton


Known Hero
posted April 16, 2006 07:39 PM
Edited by LordRiton on 16 Apr 2006

25% is not that much,  you just need to kill em as soon as possible in the battle. Try to shoot them or destroy them with spells, send a weak unit to attack them then get on them with your bigger guys when they used their retaliation on your first guys.

It's a bit like when fighting these hmm.. special cows from Fortress in H3 (forgot their name ),  and for sure not like azur dragons


In Homm3:

Arch-devil:  Don't let these cows on me guys !! away !  kill them now !!

Imps:  OK ! BOSS !  we'll fight them !




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Hrushov17
Hrushov17


Adventuring Hero
posted April 16, 2006 07:42 PM

well yeah the strategy against those guys is obvious but do remember that in 2 turns they can reach anyone so that makes things a bit harder and btw thos cows are call "mighty gorgons" so yeah

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LordRiton
LordRiton


Known Hero
posted April 16, 2006 07:45 PM

Mighty gorgons, ah yes, ty  


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