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Thread: Heroes 5 Strategy: Playing Sylvan Faction [ This thread is 28 pages long: 1 2 3 4 5 (6) 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 ]
elmek
elmek


Adventuring Hero
posted October 31, 2007 07:00 PM

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That's right swiftness is the key with Sylvan, but what do you do after your first attack. Dancers and Pixies will most likely die after one single hit if you don't have defense...

Since enemy units can't move that much, I usually wait to come closer. I cast mass spells with my hero and I assault them afterwards...

Considering half of the attacks lucky and some done to favourite enemies, there is not much left to retaliate. Still, Rangers have naturally high defense, pixies die (but I do not take them anyway as I tend to split archers) but wind dancers woll not surely die with that agility special.

Really, elven lucky favoured strike with expert attack and retribution can do some really nasty damage.

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Arxur
Arxur


Adventuring Hero
posted October 31, 2007 07:35 PM

This tactic works only with small maps. But you can't beat a huge army with a single blow. I don't think it would work against a human opponent...

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elmek
elmek


Adventuring Hero
posted October 31, 2007 11:12 PM

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This tactic works only with small maps. But you can't beat a huge army with a single blow. I don't think it would work against a human opponent...

It would work and the bigger map, the better as Sylvan is considered a might faction.

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Elvin
Elvin

Hero of Order
Stillness within Movement
posted October 31, 2007 11:22 PM

You obviously have not seen sylvan killing an enemy dungeon in one or two turns at most. Most of their hits kill a stack outright around the end of the first month with the right skills.
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Nemira
Nemira


Adventuring Hero
posted November 01, 2007 12:40 AM

@Elvin: Pumpkeen! How do you think sylvan would fare in a late game vs fortress? Would fortress still have the upper hand like in haven case? Or they would get screwed by runes and what not?

-Nemi

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Elvin
Elvin

Hero of Order
Stillness within Movement
posted November 01, 2007 01:06 AM
Edited by Elvin at 01:07, 01 Nov 2007.

LOL not many people call me that! I have not faced this battle to tell if someone has an edge. One thing is for sure, both racials are killers in endgame but what could potentially make a difference is a double breath attack from emeralds with luck and avenger. The dwarves always get hit first.
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elmek
elmek


Adventuring Hero
posted November 01, 2007 06:15 AM

Second thing is, that the Fortress will not use the preparation skill before the attack so the first blow will be delivered to defensive formation only

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Nemira
Nemira


Adventuring Hero
posted November 01, 2007 08:10 AM

Hehe!

Meh I made my ToH account, but am almost always alone in chat room <.<
Did you guys stoped playing there? Would really much prefer to meet and play up with you than on ubi thingy :>

As I am using Yahoo, will make a msn adress specially to play heroes online if you guys still play there :>

@Elvin: what I am afraid in this match of sylvan vs fortress, is that dwarves will eat 1st blow, then use rune of ressurection and wipe the floor with sylvan... Also since sylvan will strike 1st, vengeance could be a really killer for green dragons depending what they will hit no? :>

-Nemi

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Elvin
Elvin

Hero of Order
Stillness within Movement
posted November 01, 2007 08:37 AM

Yeah that spell concerns me too, I wonder how balanced it is from what i saw in the campaign. But if the dragons kill 1-2 stacks with luck they have served their purpose anyway.

About ToH people just don't use the chatroom Add the players' msn from here and just check who is online to ask for a game. Lately I don't have much time but I'm free for a game some evenings.
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Nemira
Nemira


Adventuring Hero
posted November 01, 2007 11:50 AM

Ok! Making msn account now and will look for you PS: You will have to tutor me with that hamachi thingy!

-Nemi

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2ndHero
2ndHero


Famous Hero
Floppy Slayer
posted November 01, 2007 01:24 PM

I had Wyngaal as my hero. When i moved the wind dancers to the other side of the battlefield and then casted endurance with the druids to them they got 34 defense!
I was also thinking how nice it would be to have Helmar with pristine unicorns.
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Elvin
Elvin

Hero of Order
Stillness within Movement
posted November 01, 2007 01:40 PM

Having him as an opponent would be sweeet! Imagine mass haste and the extra righteous magic instantly buffing your unicorns.

Sure Nemira
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Nirual
Nirual


Famous Hero
Imbued Ballista
posted November 01, 2007 01:52 PM

Hm, I'd like to join ToH aswell, but it seems as though my wireless con is blocking online playing. At least the normal way over ubi.com, and probably hamachi aswell.
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Nemira
Nemira


Adventuring Hero
posted November 01, 2007 09:31 PM

@Nirual: ask arround on forums am sure someone has an ideea about your problem and can help you solve it!

Come to TOH!

*I can make cookies!*

-Nemi

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Arxur
Arxur


Adventuring Hero
posted November 02, 2007 01:58 PM
Edited by arxur at 14:12, 02 Nov 2007.

Playing with Dirael

Someone has asked in an other topic about Dirael.

Let's see: She is the Bee Queen, so let's try to find a good tactic:

1. Have at least Expert Avenger Skill with Rain of Arrows and Imbue Arrow.
2. Have Expert Summoning Magic.
3. Pick up 3 favoured enemy from the enemy'a army.
(These are only the most necessary conditions.)

In battle imbue the bee swarm spell. Than use Rain of Arrows.
She has here ultimate avenger.
(NOTE: this is still played with the HoF, 2.1)

Click to see bee swarm in action!

See? The delay effect is really useful, especially in a long and big battle.

This Dirael also has: (only the important skills)
Expert Sorcery: Arcane Training
Expert Defense: Vitality + Last Stand
Expert Luck: Elven Luck, Soldier's Luck
Expert Enlightenment (to boost my status)

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Minion
Minion


Legendary Hero
posted November 02, 2007 02:53 PM

Well the Wasp Swarm with 3 favorites is really beneficial - you donŽt need other spells from Summoning. That is why it doesnŽt mater hat you donŽt have Summoning spells level 4 and 5 in your guild. There is no use for Sorcery though, as it doesnŽt work with Imbue Arrow.

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Arxur
Arxur


Adventuring Hero
posted November 02, 2007 05:11 PM

But you can learn Lv5 spells from Dragon Utopias, Vault of the Mages and you even buy them in ToE. So there are a few chances to learn high level spells.

Sorcery: you can get an extra +2 spell power and it reduces the cost of each spell. And it can be handy if you want to set up some firetraps or   to summon a phoenix...

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Nemira
Nemira


Adventuring Hero
posted November 05, 2007 05:56 PM

Am curious how one plays Sylvan without Ossir and town lvl 0... let's spice it a bit and say you got assasin / stalkers and sprites or master grems / saboteurs guarding your wood & ore mines...

-Nemi

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sdfx
sdfx


Famous Hero
posted November 05, 2007 07:26 PM

Hit and run with imbue arrow + destructive spell.
But if lucky enough to find a wizard in tavern use him for first 1 or 2 weeks: nice mana and nice spellpower are never wrong with destructive.
Then mentor a ranger and give him the army.

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Minion
Minion


Legendary Hero
posted November 06, 2007 01:58 PM
Edited by Minion at 13:59, 06 Nov 2007.

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Am curious how one plays Sylvan without Ossir and town lvl 0... let's spice it a bit and say you got assasin / stalkers and sprites or master grems / saboteurs guarding your wood & ore mines...

-Nemi


This is the most unlucky situation. It forces one to postpone taking woodmill on day 1 unless you are lucky with a tavern hero.

So that reveals my first build - tavern. I am hoping for good Heroes and at least fodder. IŽll buy them both even though it is an awful lot of money. On day 2 IŽd build Pixies and attack. Either first with the non-native hero to take as much units as possible and then come with combined army of native troops. Or IŽd combine everything and attack with my best hero. Depending on the second Hero. IŽll build Mage Guild on day 3 after which one can take ore mine and you are set to creep well.

If tavern is prebuilt, IŽd go for Sprite-upgrade day 2, and attack then.

Oh and btw, Ossir and his hunters are lost against ranged creeps and sprites.. He wont help here at all.

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