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Thread: Heroes 5 Strategy: Playing Sylvan Faction [ This thread is pages long: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 (9) 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 ] |
Fauch
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Undefeatable Hero
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posted March 03, 2008 12:28 PM |
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isn't the sylve an easy faction to play? I thought all you had to do is get the hunters and slaughter everyone.
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PhoenixReborn
Promising
Legendary Hero
Unicorn
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posted March 03, 2008 12:43 PM |
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isn't the sylve an easy faction to play? I thought all you had to do is get the hunters and slaughter everyone.
That's it folks, lets close this thread.
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Orodruin
Adventuring Hero
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posted March 03, 2008 12:47 PM |
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Has anyone realised how much Dirael's wasp swarm specialty sucks? Ok, it will certainly delay the enemy turn but its damage is good for nothing! A doubt: what real percentage bonus to initiative is given per level of that specialty you all know, 0.5%, 1.0%?
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Ebbafan
Promising
Famous Hero
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posted March 03, 2008 01:01 PM |
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when i was using dirael, with the "archer's dream" set, 3 of the enemy hero's units never got to move, and they took massive damage from the wasp swarms, because of channeling from the druids, which brought my spellpower to 36!
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Orodruin
Adventuring Hero
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posted March 03, 2008 01:16 PM |
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Don't you think you could have used a more powerfull spell with your 36 spell power, did you have no other spells?
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Ebbafan
Promising
Famous Hero
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posted March 03, 2008 02:29 PM |
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when you are fighting huge armies, slowing them down and preventing them from acting is much more effective than trying to destroy them...
as an example, this is why warlocks do well early to midgame, but aren't so hot endgame.
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Orodruin
Adventuring Hero
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posted March 03, 2008 03:15 PM |
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Yes, but did you not have puppet master, frenzy or anything the like, i mean, was wasp swarm the best you could do?
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Fauch
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
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posted March 03, 2008 03:22 PM |
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wasp swarm seems quite good, at a high level.
wyngaal's ability is very powerful at a high level, I could maybe even say imba, allowing him to destroy most of the ennemy army before they get the chance to do anything.
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Ebbafan
Promising
Famous Hero
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posted March 03, 2008 03:49 PM |
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i did have frenzy, i used that with rain of arrows; it was so cheesy that i decided not to use it again.
i fought wyngaal before, he had like a 10 luck with a gigantic army. iwas a mere necromancer, but 1 frenzy and his dragons absolutely destroyed his own army... total rampage. i just cleaned up the survivors
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Thanatos
Known Hero
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posted March 03, 2008 05:06 PM |
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Has anyone realised how much Dirael's wasp swarm specialty sucks? Ok, it will certainly delay the enemy turn but its damage is good for nothing! A doubt: what real percentage bonus to initiative is given per level of that specialty you all know, 0.5%, 1.0%?
Her specialty on itself may not be very much, but her starting skill is because you almost never get Summoning Magic with Sylvan while it can be very effective for them... Wasp Swarm or Summon Hive with Rain of Arrows can be devastating if there are a lot of favored enemies present on the battlefield, it can effectively take half the opponents' army out of the fight with expert Summoning mastery.
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nosfe
Adventuring Hero
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posted March 03, 2008 05:23 PM |
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i did have frenzy, i used that with rain of arrows; it was so cheesy that i decided not to use it again.
i fought wyngaal before, he had like a 10 luck with a gigantic army. iwas a mere necromancer, but 1 frenzy and his dragons absolutely destroyed his own army... total rampage. i just cleaned up the survivors
that means that he played like a fool, with wyngaal you don't wait for the enemy to attack, you attack with everything you've got because you're guarantied that you'll attack with all of your army before he even has a chance to move, thats why he is considered imba
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Ebbafan
Promising
Famous Hero
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posted March 03, 2008 08:14 PM |
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no he was not so stupid so as to have his crystal dragons wait. i had tactics as well as necromantic artifacts and storm wind. i also positioned my large creatures behind barriers. his dragons could not reach me, so he just positioned them to just be able to reach me next turn. wyngaal is very devastating when he can reach you and has super high morale, but he can be countered sometimes.
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Lesij
Famous Hero
Paladin of the Taiga
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posted March 04, 2008 07:03 AM |
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I have some questions about Sylvan:
1. Is only Ossir good at creeping?
2. Is defense usefull?
3. Why the f*ck Sylvan has so stupid perks for their racial?
They are simply useless, cuz, as someone said, for Sylvan Blessings would be a blessing  and taking two magic schools with Might faction isn't very good idea...
That's true- you can attack lots of stacks with one shot, but what for? You will be able to tickle them a bit if it isn't a curse...
Ok, Ok Imbue Ballista... But what about obtaination of it O_O ???
Avenger is a great racial but only for creatures not for the hero...
And perks doesn't help simply at all (maybe on the very beggining with the creeping they can, but only a bit -_- )
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forest001
Known Hero
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posted March 04, 2008 07:12 AM |
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no he was not so stupid ...
believe me he was.
and you were quite lucky with those necromantic arties and light magic.
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Elvin
Hero of Order
Stillness within Movement
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posted March 04, 2008 07:39 AM |
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1. Is only Ossir good at creeping?
No! 
2. Is defense usefull?
If you face hard hitters but normally no.
3. Why the f*ck Sylvan has so stupid perks for their racial?
They are pretty good if you ask me. Two boost earlygame that you desperately need and another endgame. If you don't find them good it means you have not yet found a use for them.
Ok, Ok Imbue Ballista... But what about obtaination of it O_O ???
Big deal all factions have cool rare skills.
Avenger is a great racial but only for creatures not for the hero...
That's even better because of the units' natural swiftness, avenger is easily in the top racials. Except in small maps.
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Lesij
Famous Hero
Paladin of the Taiga
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posted March 04, 2008 07:44 AM |
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So who is good enough to creep without Ossir O_O ?
How can be Rain of Arrows useful? Isn't it better to use ressurection in spite of shooting some dudes (which, as I said, will be like tickling for great armies)?
Anyway, if you say defense is not must0have then both Gilraen and Anwen are not very good heroes...
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Sargeras
Known Hero
the Fallen
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posted March 04, 2008 07:45 AM |
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...don't know to much 'bout sylvan but i always take Ossir (he's sick  )...for defense i think is great - also defense is your hero preffered stat, IMO it's good for units to be harder to kill (i use attack, luck, light, defense)
And Avenger ?!? i don't know what to think about it yet... , maybe i'm not using it properly, maybe don't know how.  For me it's very late game thing but wouldn't call it useless
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Lesij
Famous Hero
Paladin of the Taiga
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posted March 04, 2008 07:52 AM |
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Edited by Lesij at 07:52, 04 Mar 2008.
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I call it useless only for the hero...
With creatures- it rocks
I think luck is more needed for Sylvan than defense is...
With Soldier's luck you get Arcane Archers' and Silver Unicorns' abilities to act more often, what's more- you can get with it insane damage...
And don't forget about Prismatic Breathe 
Luck is, for me a natural choice here, but with Ossir you cannot get Elven luck  That's not fair...
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Elvin
Hero of Order
Stillness within Movement
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posted March 04, 2008 07:56 AM |
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LOL! Ossir is too cool to have elven luck too
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Thanatos
Known Hero
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posted March 04, 2008 07:58 AM |
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So who is good enough to creep without Ossir O_O ?
How can be Rain of Arrows useful? Isn't it better to use ressurection in spite of shooting some dudes (which, as I said, will be like tickling for great armies)?
Imbue Arrow with High Druid SP boosting... then start shooting triple or quadruple meteor swarms, implosions or divine vengeances. Or even frenzies or blinds should you be lucky enough to get Dark Magic offered and are able to find a place where you can learn them.
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