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Dracolich
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posted April 22, 2006 11:17 AM |
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Age Of EmpiresII: The Age Of Kings And The Conquerors strategy
I don't here how mant people like this game(Age Of Empire) but this is one of my best game too, i like to share my way of playing or you can say my strategy so that maybe i can learn more from you guys if you are a AOE player, here it goes,
When Playing the game of AOEII(specifically a co-operative deadmatch), during the 1st few minutes, send seveal of your villagers into the base of whom you perceive to be the strongest of your allies, and create a heavily defended stronghold in the middle of their base. Make sure there are many castles, walls, and towers all garrisoned and guarding you. Then proceed to wait. If your allies get testy at your inaction, send small token armies off to fight. Make sure that at all times you have a large army so that when you sense that the battle has come to an end, you can send out am army and obliterate claim victory for yourself. 
Try this out and tell me did it work on you can if you have other type of strategy plz post here.
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DragonMaster
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posted April 22, 2006 11:28 AM |
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I have that thing locked away somewhere 
Totaly forgot about it when Age of Mythology came out (so much better)
And I dont use strategy all to much in an RTS game.
I just look at how my opponent is building and stuff, search his weak spot with minor skirmishes and when I find it, I send out my sege engines followed by a few battalions of troops.
Then I send the res of my army 30 secs - 1 min behind it so he thinks he beat my invasion and BAM!
Doesnt work regularly, but it gets the newbies done 
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Dracolich
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posted April 22, 2006 12:45 PM |
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Age of Mythology...... i got that game CD but it does not work my computer.... by the way is Age of Mythology cool?
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Mr48
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posted April 23, 2006 06:04 AM |
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Age of Empires 2 kicks Age of Mythology's ass! (In gameplay of course, not graphics)
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william
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LummoxLewis
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posted April 23, 2006 06:11 AM |
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Age of Empires 2 or the Age of Kings is a much better game in some things then Age of Mythology.
In AOK you get to reinact the great warriors from way back long ago battles.
You can pick Joan of Arc, Montezuma if you have the Conqueres expansion, Genghis Kang and countless others.
The gameplay is way better, and the graphics welll maybe not as good as AOM.
But AOK and The conquerors expansion will be in my fav list of games from all time.
My strategy.
Well I usually make it so that I can build my walls.
I put them around my base and so that noone can get in, I make the walls so that they go to the trees.
I make a couple of towers near each gate and put about 5 archers or something into them.
If I am in the Castle age then I build Castle near the gates and put about 20 Archers into it.
I then get my main force and charge them towards the enemy, including a couple of Trebuchets, and alot of Swordsmen and Horsemen and other units.
My Favourite unti being the Elite Jassinary I gather around 20 or 30 or even 40 of them and charge them into the enemy base and just start shooting every last thing that the enemy has built.
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I_HaT3_CT
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posted April 23, 2006 12:22 PM |
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Have you seen me play Age of Empires 2??
I sent my villagers to attack!
Anyway Warcraft 2 is much much better in terms of quick RTS games. AoE is too long for me. Thats why i play small maps and sent villagers to attack[they died went we engage with the enemy]. Anyway my AoE is collecting dust somewhere too. Maybe i will try your stratedgy instead. BTW you have any quick Stratedgy on winning the game. Building up the tech trees and building wall still seems abit slow. I suck at AoE anyway.
Warcraft Rulez
And Red Alert too...
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william
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LummoxLewis
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posted April 23, 2006 12:29 PM |
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Building Walls sucks.
Are you out of your mind.
Building walls is one of the crucial ways of surving AOK.
Heres what you should do:
1) get some villagers and make maybe 1 or 2 go for the foraging bush, make another villager go and cut down some wood, make another villager get stone, and make another villager get gold.
2)build houses early on, because when you are in that big fight at the end, and you need more defense and you don't have enough houses then you are stuffed and you will lose.
3)build a mill and a farm. The Mill in the conauqerors is very important as it now has the option to have a farm qcue and it is way easier to build farms and stuff.
4)build walls and gates. Gates are actually stronger but they cost more, so make a couple of gates anyway.
5)Build a castle as this is probably your main offense and defense
6)Build Trebuchets and strike at the enemy Castle
7)Build heaps of your Castle elite units, and take them with your Trebuchets
8)Build a massive army and strik the enemy
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Dracolich
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posted April 23, 2006 05:08 PM |
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I always lock the gate so that my ally computer can't take my resources away.
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william
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LummoxLewis
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posted April 24, 2006 02:01 AM |
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Well you should lock the gate so your allies dont come in, then quickly send your people to get the resources and then you get their stuff but they cant get yours.
Good isnt it
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Dracolich
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posted April 24, 2006 04:25 AM |
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You got man. That do the trick is done, somemore what we can have the ally farm when they are not farming it isn't that cool.
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william
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LummoxLewis
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posted April 24, 2006 04:28 AM |
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Yeah alrighty then if you wanna run out of resources and die thats not my problem
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Dracolich
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posted April 24, 2006 04:38 AM |
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You can always trade the other resources which GOLD and we can have unlimited GOLD if we capture that Gold increase thing(what is the name of that where the monk is the only one who can carry it) yes if you have that your gold will increase till you have it. So i don't have to worry about my resources.
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william
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LummoxLewis
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posted April 24, 2006 04:48 AM |
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It's called a relic and you may not have enough time to actually get your monk with the relic and bring him back to your monestary.
He is a very slow walker and therfore you should guard him with heaps of units.
Also you should always worry about resources unless you have about 10000 of wood, gold, stone and food.
If you have that much then you are fine but I doubt in any game that you will get that amount, unless you are playing an XL map and you have about 100 farms then you may get about 10000 food but it's quite rare.
Also you might find it difficult to get alot of gold or stone, as they are crucial for your buildings.
Stone being one of the most crucial you should always look out for that resource and when you can make a village next to it and then start gathering stone and gold.
Food is the most important as you will need this for some buildings and for all of your units, ecept for the seige engines which i dont think need any food they only need wood and gold.
Try and get as much resources from your ally that you can and then strike at your enemies and crush them.
Also one of the best units in the game, the Trebuchets you should guard them and use them to take down any stone walls.
Also something that may be of some use.
When you build your stone wall make it so that you build one stone wall, then directly behind it build another stone wall.
That way if any enemy units are trying to destroy the wall, they then need to go through another set of walls and that saves alot of your time and you can build up your defenses while they are destroying one wall.
The enemy Trebuchets are something that you should watch out for, when you can try and destroy these as they can become extremely annoying and they can destroy your castles which is one of the crucial buildings that you need as it produces the strongest unit, like ground unit not including the seige weapons as they are the strongest.
I think it is in AOK but you can destroy trees with targeting an area of trees with your catapult or whatever they are called.
It may work in AOK or that might be for AOE correct me if I am wrong about that.
Your Villagers are crucial so buy alot of them and then just start gathering all of the resources that you need.
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Dracolich
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posted April 24, 2006 04:54 AM |
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Oh yes relic thatis why you have you make to castle age faster then the computers in this way you can have all the relics(total there are always 5 relic.)
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william
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LummoxLewis
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posted April 24, 2006 04:58 AM |
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Im always getting to the Castle age about 10 minutes before the computers do.
They just make alot of farms, while I also make farms and make units and my main army.
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Guitarguy
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posted April 24, 2006 06:20 AM |
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Those are some good strategies. I rarely play Deathmatch mode, though.
I also agree that Walls are important versus the AI. Of course, you can imagine my surprise when my Goth civ couldn't build Stone Walls! Whenever I wall in, though, I try not to neglect building an army of Knights with upgraded movement. Two groups of four Knights is usually a good start, although the somewhat cheaper method would be two groups of eight or more Light Cavalry. Either way, fast units are needed to handle enemy siege weapons.
I don't build very many Guard Towers after the Castle Age, since they will only be a brief distraction for the growing number of AI troops. The appearance of enemy siege weapons threatens the longevity of Towers by some margin, as well.
As for Relics, I try to find them with my scouts at the beginning. I'll send a Villager to build Wooden Barricades around the Relic so that enemy Monks won't be able to take it. One problem with this is that the Villager might bump into Wolves along the way; they're very annoying critters. But if you can wall in the Relics and guard your Monks, you'll be alright.
Light Calvary aren't the best fighters, but they're cheap at only a small amount of Food each. By the Imperial Age, there should be a plethora of food in stock; you can spit out Light Calvary armies like watermelon seeds. They're good for occupying an enemy invasion force while your slower Swordsmen or Archers get into position. Furthermore, Light Calvary can divert enemy forces away from their towns while you sneak up from behind with your main army...
It's awesome when you convert Elephants.
I like Longbows and Chu-Ko-Nu, since they're awesome in big groups. When they're well-guarded and backed with Monks, they'll crush a lot of enemies. Some Elite Skirmishers are also useful, so bring at least a dozen along. The archer upgrades are a must.
While facing multiple AI enemies, I'll wipe out one AI's town but save the Dock. That way, I'll still be able to trade for gold while I keep on fighting elsewhere. While this can also be done with Markets, it's slightly more dangerous if the remaining AI armies are roaming around on land. Additionally, I try to build my Docks as far away as possible and use a lot of trading vessels to get extra gold.
-Guitarguy
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william
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LummoxLewis
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posted April 24, 2006 06:35 AM |
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Nice strategies GuitarGuy.
I havent played AOK or the Conquerors for a while because i dont have it installed and i borred it off a friend.
But the Jassinary are one of the best units in my opinion, they can be a little weak but they are excellent because they shot with guns and they are excellent when in really large numbers and when backed up with alot of Monks.
As I said before you should make your stone wall something like this:
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Sorry I couldnt use a real picture but if you look at it you will see that
[----] = a gate
and these --- = the walls.
Now you will see that I have 2 walls and 2 sets of walls.
That is extremely useful as when you are versing the AI they will usually get their infantry to try and take out the walls.
They might do it really easily when you have one set of wall, but when you have 2 sets then it wastes the AIs time and then you have your time to quickly gather your resources and build up your army and then take them out.
If they use Trebuchets then you may be in trouble but early on the AI usually sends a small army to try and find an enemy base and attack it, but when they have such a small army they wouldnt have the strength to take out the wall quick enough until they get qiped out by your army.
Here is how I usually have my walls.
[---]
[___]
* *
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* = towers
[----] = gates
[---]
[___] = Castle
Again sorry I couldnt provide a picture for you all.
Now I have two towers and I fill them up with some archers, and I fill up the Castle with about 20 Archers for some really needed defense and some extra firepower, because you will need it.
If you can buy those Demolition experts or whatever they are called (the units which blow themselves up) then buy some of them and make them blow up the enemy Village or send heaps of them to blow up the enemy Castle.
Alternatively you could use your Battering Ram or Armoured Battering Ram and send that for the Enemy Castle as Battering Rams do ALOT of damage against buildings, especially Castles, so they are a really big help for you so buy them whenever you can.
The Janissary are a really good unit because they shot at the enemies so if you have the appropriate civilisation get them and then charge them towards the enemy village and destroy them.
If I get real pics then I will show you.
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Guitarguy
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posted April 24, 2006 06:50 AM |
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Yeah, those gunpower soldiers are really powerful. They cooked my Cavaliers once; it left a really bad taste in my mouth. I'll try your double-Wall strategy sometime. I've only bothered building a single layer.
I've often noticed that enemy AI will march as a group (with siege weapons) very slowly towards my base, during which they don't really attack unless they're attacked first. I like the "Maze of Death" strategy where the enemies have to walk peaceful down a path laden with my Towers and Castles shooting at them from behind Walls. The more twists and turns there are, the better for you and worse for them.
-Guitarguy
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Dracolich
Adventuring Hero
Dragon Soul Keeper
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posted April 24, 2006 07:07 AM |
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Do you guys make outpost? I think outpost are useless.
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william
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LummoxLewis
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posted April 24, 2006 07:26 AM |
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I have a picture of what I was talking about, but it is really not good quality, but still you can see it.
As you can see I have done the walls as I said and I have my Castle just behind the 2 gates and I have both my towers beside the gates.
Now this Technique will probably save you from an onslaught of enemy units, as the enemy will have to waste all their time trying to get through the walls and if they don't have seige weapons then it will take a long time, sorry again for the bad colour and stuff.
Now about some other strategies
When you are versin an AI opponent you should go for their Castles or Town cnetre as they are powerless without them, and then the AI gets really confused and stuff.
Never build Outposts as they are a waste of time, and they are weak and also they can't shoot.
If you want to build something so you can see into the fog of war thingy then build a Tower as they can shoot arrows from it, they are stronger and are just better and you can garrison your archers into it to get more firepower.
When you have Battering Rams make sure that you defend them with all you have.
If you are going for an enemy Castle and you are sending a battering Ram up to it, then defend it with heaps of your troops and just charge away. I think you can garrison your archers in it, That may be a different game
If you have your Trebuchets remember that they are pakced to move and are unpacked to fire, that is very important because if you are in battle and you quickly want to move it, and it is unpakced, and you forget how to move it, then this will become useful for you.
Also defend your Trebuchets with your life as they are extremely strong seige weapons and they become very useful when you are trying to take down walls or an enemy Castle.
Like I said before your Janissary or your Elite Jannisary are very powerful units.
They can easily wipe your entire army out, so watch out for them, and if you have them in your army then you are lucky as you will win quite easily. Also if you versing an army of Jannisary then get your Monks and start trying to convert them, because you will need them for your final fight against the enemy.
The seige weapons when in battle should be guarded as they are very weak at melee combat, actually I dont think that catapults or Ballistas can shoot when an enemy unit is attacking them. I mean they can't shoot at the enemy unit attacking them, but I think they can shoot at an enemy that is further away when an while an enemy unit is attacking you in hand-to-hand combat.
You shoould buy your Demolition men or whatever they are called and send them either to the enemy Trebuchets if they have any, to the enemy town centre or to the enemy Castle.
The Castle would probably be the best as the enemy would get their elite units from their and the elite units are the strongest units apart from the Trebuchets which are seige weapons which are absolutely powerful to have in your army so you should take care when using them or when you are attacking them.
The Monks are good for a couple of things.
Firstly they can heal your wounded units which is essential to stay alive.
Secondly they can convert enemy units into your own.
And last but not least they can pick up relics and put them into the Monestery.
The Relics provide a small amount of gold every couple of seconds or so. Maybe 10 or 15 seconds, and Gold is extremely useful as you will need it for trade, need it for Certain buildings and to advance through the Ages, you will need it for certain units and seige weapons.
Gold is a must if you want to win the game.
Food is a must as you need it to advance through the ages, need it for nearly every kind of unit, and for some buildings.
Wood is also one that you will need the most, as you will need it for every single building, for the seige engines.
Stone is also a must as you will need it for every building I think, for some units, and especially for the Walls and the Castle and the Gates which are really useful when combined together as you will then have a really good defense for your village.
For your army you may like to mix it up a little.
I mean you should put maybe 10 or 15 of each unit type.
Like maybe 15 of your elite units, maybe 15 archers maybe more because archers are really good and I think they get a bonus when placed on top of a hill, some swordsmen or other infantry units, 15 of some Cavalry or Knights or whichever you prefer, and maybe 10 Trebuchets as that will provide a really strong army as it covers nearly all things.
I mean the Trebuchets offers you the extra defense and also the ability to knock down walls with relative ease, the infantry provide offense and attack, the archers adds that extra firepower that you need and the Cavalry or Knights provides the speed and the extra offense and the elite units will provide you with the main attacking force of your army as they are the strongest unit apart from the seige units.
You should also build some houses quite early because when you are in that final battle and you dont have many troops left and then you try to build some more then you find out that you do not have enough houses, then you will waste time building some more, and in that meantime while building your army will probably all die and then the enemy will come to your village while you are still building houses and they will wipe you out.
Also before making a really big army, make sure you have quite laot of each resource because as I said you may need the extra units if you hardly have any left and if you don't have enough resources well then you are virtually dead and you can't save yourself.
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