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ozzyosbourne
ozzyosbourne


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Famous Hero
Riddler of the Sky
posted September 13, 2001 03:22 AM

It's a good thing that didnt hit the White House. Also the terrorists planned to hit the White House the time Bush and his family were in there.

So thank god the White House wasnt hit and that the President wasnt killed during that.
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Ash-NIR
Ash-NIR


Known Hero
the Black Warlock
posted September 15, 2001 07:53 AM

...the whole idea behind the attack wasn't to destroy the white house or the pentagon... they just wanted to hit the States where it hurts more -their feeling of invincibility... and that, they succeeded...
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Still
Still


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posted September 15, 2001 08:34 AM

Sorry guys, I didn't read your post either bothered replying here before. I've heared too much and it's insane. I don't want to hear them, because I'm full of it!
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arachnid
arachnid


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posted September 15, 2001 01:14 PM

I know what u mean Still they keep showing the picture every 5 minutes on the news, i mean how is that helping anyone seeing the plane hit the building over and over again? I bet someone will sue the press for all the stress they have caused and will probably win.
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LordPaul
LordPaul


Promising
Famous Hero
Crazy Bat Guy.
posted September 15, 2001 06:17 PM

(a message from beyond the grave . . . muhahahahahaha)

Hey, Incubus and I have been IM-ing each other, and I informed him that Mystery wasn't celebrating the Trad Tower Disaster.  Well, he relented and apologized.  Here is what he sent me:

Quote:
Ok.. then i was wrong... please would you say to him from me that i was wrong? Because i can't .. and i misunderstood his message..


Well, that's all for now.  Glad to get that cleared up.



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Wyvern
Wyvern


Promising
Famous Hero
posted September 16, 2001 06:07 PM

Where is Princess_Zelda?

Has anybody heard of her since September 11th? She said she lived in USA. Maybe in New York?

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Murphy
Murphy


Disgraceful
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banned
posted September 16, 2001 06:10 PM

ive seen her online

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ozzyosbourne
ozzyosbourne


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Riddler of the Sky
posted September 16, 2001 11:40 PM

She lives in Central New Jersey by me. right below New York.
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Venom
Venom


Hired Hero
posted September 17, 2001 10:18 AM

...

Yeah its sad what happened to america.
it even affects the live here in holland.
What they should do is BOMB the whole middle-East and show no mercy!!!!!!!!!
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Viper
Viper


Known Hero
Lord of Black Magic
posted September 17, 2001 01:10 PM

I think it's time to kick arabians a*s.

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Zune
Zune


Adventuring Hero
of Tatalia
posted September 17, 2001 05:40 PM

I'm totally shocked. Some people are simply crazy. I'm worried about the concequences. I just hope that this won't lead to a war. Whatever the outcome of such a war, there will be huge numbers of dead on both sides. I pray for peace.

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ozzyosbourne
ozzyosbourne


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Riddler of the Sky
posted September 17, 2001 09:41 PM

well no India will be signed on an Alliance with the U.N., they are best friends with the U.S. and they want to get rid of the Pakistan/Arabs and whatever. and i hope this leads to war. i want war. i want them to die.

One thing theres banners and posters and signs everywhere that most even say "F*ck Bin Laden, cut his ass up!" and 2 guys beat up 5 guys in a car because the 5 guys in the car had big giant flags of Pakistan. So i say the deserved it alot.
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princess_zelda
princess_zelda


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house elf
posted September 17, 2001 10:36 PM

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First of all, we don't know who has committed this--and I don't use this word lightly--atrocity.  When the Alfred Murrah building was bombed in Oklahoma many of my countrymen immediately assumed that Arabs were responsible.  That turned out to not be the case.  Right now there are all sorts of stories coming out.  What is certain is that the World Trade Center is no more. The Pentagon has had part of one section collapse.  And another plane has crashed close to Camp David.
So... right now we wait; and pray; and weep.


It's those damn muslims, I say we go kill their asses!
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Kruel
Kruel


Adventuring Hero
Gropabo
posted September 17, 2001 10:50 PM

What i'm reading here is terrible...


wow i couldn't think i could read something like this.

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They say they want Jihad, I think that's what they're going to get.

We don't have to worry about taking land.
We don't have to worry about alienating other nations.
We don't have to worry about internal political fights.

anyway i think the country should be blown away completly.

What they should do is BOMB the whole middle-East and show no mercy!!!!!!!!!

I think it's time to kick arabians a*s.

they want to get rid of the Pakistan/Arabs and whatever. and i hope this leads to war. i want war. i want them to die.


To the guys who said these things, i am living in NY i've seen all this almost from my window, and i've lost a good friend in there. Needless to say how sad, disgusted and horrified i am. There was this morning on my building door a paper with a picture of 2 missing people, mother and father of a son of 8.
And now what you guys want is war ? "Just nuke them" ???
This is just as simple as saying, let's kill more innocent people, thousands of them, to get rid of the few who are actually responsible for it.
You just consider that as something terribly bad has been done to this country, then you must do something terribly bad to someone else. So if someone from a country killed your child, you would just go to that country and kill all children ? What sense is there in there ?

Plus no prooves yet have been found where these attacks came from, and you're already saying just kill the arabs, you speak of pakistan when it's afghanistan who's hosting bin laden and when pakistan actually offered their help to USA.
And i'm sorry to have to criticize the american press, but showing palestinians cheering, not even knowing when/where and in which conditions the pictures were taken, without altering them with a decent comment is either stupidity or propaganda...
And what to say about a car in an airport found with a "how-to-fly" documentation in arab ? (sorry about poor english dunno how to say that). Just like if the terrorists had to make sure they remembered what to do, 5 minutes before taking off ? I say the only one that can beleive that is the one that wants to beleive it.

Do you guys know what war is ? If you've known only the gulf war, just realise this is not war. Try to remember vietnam more, maybe you'll be less ready to go there (oh yeah war has soldiers and you might be one do you know ?), or to send your children there. you might have to kill people, you might see hundreds of people die in front of you, and you might die yourself in a war. And remember afghanistan is not iraq, the russians have been fighting the mujahideens for almost 15 years, and have finally been kicked out of the country.

All we have to do is pray for the families and friends, pray for this never to happen again, and hope the real people responsible for that, and only them, get punished. Now i have to say if they could instead of just get killed go to jail their whole life, and spend their whole life suffering from the tortures of their jail-mates whatever they could be, that wouldn't make me sad.

Kruel

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Kruel
Kruel


Adventuring Hero
Gropabo
posted September 17, 2001 10:54 PM

and one more while i was writing...

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It's those damn muslims, I say we go kill their asses!


i just think you people are almost as scary as those who did that thing.

Kruel

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princess_zelda
princess_zelda


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house elf
posted September 17, 2001 10:57 PM

Quote:
Quote:
It's those damn muslims, I say we go kill their asses!


i just think you people are almost as scary as those who did that thing.

Kruel
If they want to come here and attack us theres no reason why we can't kill them. I'm not scary.[Some of the things I say are though]
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Kruel
Kruel


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Gropabo
posted September 17, 2001 11:01 PM

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If they want to come here and attack us theres no reason why we can't kill them. I'm not scary.[Some of the things I say are though]


I would maybe agree, if it was true... But what makes you say the muslims are responsible for that ? Do you know how many muslims there are in the world ? much much more than americans. And why should innocent people, and entire countries, suffer for what only a few people are responsible for ?

Kruel

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LordPaul
LordPaul


Promising
Famous Hero
Crazy Bat Guy.
posted September 17, 2001 11:06 PM

Here, I have to post this.  It is a letter from a friend of mine.

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Dear friends,

  We've heard a lot of different response to recent
events - many people want to turn Afghanistan into a
parking lot, while others want to shower Osama Bin
Laden with love and show him we are not the monsters
he thinks we are. I would personally like to see his
head on a stick, but before we discuss extremes, lets
take a look at someone else's perspective. The
following is part of an email thread written by Tamim
Ansary, Afghani-American writer. He gives his American
friends the perspective through his Afghani eyes:

I've been hearing a lot of talk about "bombing
Afghanistan back to the Stone Age." Ronn Owens, on KGO
Talk Radio today, allowed that this would mean killing
innocent people, people who had nothing to do with
this atrocity, but "we're at war, we have to accept
collateral damage. What else can we do?" Minutes later
I heard some TV pundit discussing whether we "have the
belly to do what must be done."

And I thought about the issues being raised especially
hard because I am from Afghanistan, and even though
I've lived here for 35 years I've never lost track of
what's going on there. So I want to tell anyone who
will listen how it all looks from where I'm standing.

I speak as one who hates the Taliban and Osama Bin
Laden. There is no doubt in my mind that these people
were responsible for the atrocity in New York. I agree
that something must be done about those monsters.

But the Taliban and Ben Laden are not Afghanistan.
They're not even the government of Afghanistan. The
Taliban are a cult of ignorant psychotics who took
over Afghanistan in 1997. Bin Laden is a political
criminal with a plan. When you think Taliban, think
Nazis. When you think Bin Laden, think Hitler. And
when you think "the people of Afghanistan" think "the
Jews in the concentration camps." It's not only that
the Afghan people had nothing to do with this
atrocity. They were the first victims of the
perpetrators.

They would exult if someone would come in there, take
out the Taliban and clear out the rats nest of
international thugs holed up in their country.

Some say, why don't the Afghans rise up and overthrow
the Taliban? The answer is, they're starved,
exhausted, hurt, incapacitated, suffering. A few years
ago, the United Nations estimated that there were
500,000 disabled orphans in Afghanistan - a country
with no economy, no food. There are millions of
widows. And the Taliban has been burying these widows
alive in mass graves. The soil is littered with land
mines, the farms were all destroyed by the Soviets.
These are a few of the reasons why the Afghan people
have not overthrown the Taliban.

We come now to the question of bombing Afghanistan
back to the Stone Age. Trouble is, that's been done.
The Soviets took care of it already. Make the Afghans
suffer? They're already suffering.

Level their houses? Done.

Turn their schools into piles of rubble? Done.

Eradicate their hospitals? Done.

Destroy their infrastructure? Cut them off from
medicine and health care?

Too late. Someone already did all that.

New bombs would only stir the rubble of earlier bombs.
Would they at least get the Taliban? Not likely. In
today's Afghanistan, only the Taliban eat, only they
have the means to move around. They'd slip away and
hide. Maybe the bombs would get some of those disabled
orphans, they don't move too fast, they don't even
have wheelchairs. But flying over Kabul and dropping
bombs wouldn't really be a strike against the
criminals who did this horrific thing.

Actually it would only be making common cause with the
Taliban - by raping once again the people they've been
raping all this time. So what else is there? What can
be done, then? Let me now speak with true fear and
trembling. The only way to get Bin Laden is to go in
there with ground troops. When people speak of "having
the belly to do what needs to be done" they're
thinking in terms of having the belly to kill as many
as needed.

Having the belly to overcome any moral qualms about
killing innocent people.

Let's pull our heads out of the sand. What's actually
on the table is Americans dying. And not just because
some Americans would die fighting their way through
Afghanistan to Bin Laden's hideout. It's much bigger
than that folks. Because to get any troops to
Afghanistan, we'd have to go through Pakistan. Would
they let us? Not likely. The conquest of Pakistan
would have to be first. Will other Muslim nations just
stand by?

You see where I'm going. We're flirting with a world
war between Islam and the West.

And guess what: that's Bin Laden's program. That's
exactly what he wants.

That's why he did this. Read his speeches and
statements. It's all right there. He really believes
Islam would beat the west. It might seem ridiculous,
but he figures if he can polarize the world into Islam
and the West, he's got a billion soldiers. If the West
wreaks a holocaust in those lands, that's a billion
people with nothing left to lose, that's even better
from Bin Laden's point of view. He's probably wrong,
in the end the West would win, whatever that would
mean, but the war would last for years and millions
would die, not just theirs but ours. Who has the belly
for that?

Bin Laden does. Anyone else?
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Hope this sheds some light on what should be done.
Think about it, don't just act.





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princess_zelda
princess_zelda


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house elf
posted September 17, 2001 11:09 PM

Quote:
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If they want to come here and attack us theres no reason why we can't kill them. I'm not scary.[Some of the things I say are though]


I would maybe agree, if it was true... But what makes you say the muslims are responsible for that ? Do you know how many muslims there are in the world ? much much more than americans. And why should innocent people, and entire countries, suffer for what only a few people are responsible for ?

Kruel


You obviously don't know the whole story.
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LordPaul
LordPaul


Promising
Famous Hero
Crazy Bat Guy.
posted September 17, 2001 11:19 PM

Fools!

Okay, I had to add this.

Ozzy?, You want war?  You'd be the first to die.  They'd draft your ass, and send you over there to fight.  If I were to judge your I.Q. by what you say, you'd be unable to handle anything but an infintry position.  Seeing as only braggards are the ones to use fighting words, you'd be too scared to fight, and you'd die.  

Princess?, grow up.  War is nothing to you because as a woman you'd never see the battle (no offense to other female board members).  And being young you'd have no idea of the consequences of war.  People die.  Histories are destroyed.  Young men who have no say in their own lives (in both countries) would die over a war started by racial prejudices.  How does the war end?  The same way.

Everyone who thinks we should nuke them, what the hell do you smoke?  Ever hear of Nuclear winter?  Look it up.  We nuke them, then radioactive isotopes would spread in the atmosphere, killing practically all life in Eurasia.

The people we would kill over there don't want this war either, they want to get rid of their oppresive government.  How would you like it if another country bombed the U.S. because Bush (not that he would) bombed Russia?  You wouldn't like it.

Think before you speak.


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